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Hungry Tiger
19 July 2018 13:37:33

How this summer might end is almost anyones guess. But I can remember how a few good summers ended and when.

2006 - Amazing July with a CET of 19.7C The August which followed was very disappointing. The September of that year was very hot and October was good.

2003 - The All time record in August of that year. September was very good but around the 25th or 26th a dramatic cold front ended the summer once and for all.

1995. That fizzled out around the August Bank Holiday.

1989

1990. I wasn't here to recall those.

1983 - Impressive July.

1976. Very impressive last week of June and first week of July. Hot until the August Bank Holiday when downpours signalled the end of a classic summer.

1975. A wet September ended that summer.

1959. That summer commenced in May and lasted into October. I wasn't around then - but I have been informed of that summer.

Will this one end on the August bank Holiday or last until the autumn like 1959.

 


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19 July 2018 13:58:21

A good question HT!  I think if it does last till August Bank Holiday some of us will be frazzled!  Yes, I think it will be good to the end!  I think we’re stuck in this pattern for a few more weeks even into October, like 1959.  

I remember 1959 as a good one because it lasted so long and as a child I was able to go out and play all summer!  Not too hot and no spells of extreme heat.  Just long hot summer days!  How all good summers should all be!  

 


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golfingmad
19 July 2018 14:00:31

It's interesting that 1959 seems to get mentioned quite a lot. However, as far as the CET summer series is concerned, 1959 only comes out at joint 24th position with 1997 with a CET of 16.57C. So perhaps the main reason why 1959 gets mentioned must be the warmth either side of the summer months?  In the CET autumn series, 1959 does come out joint 8th with 1978 with a CET of 11.58C. I can certainly attest that 1978 was a great autumn, so this must be one of the main reasons why 1959 frequently gets mentioned as a really good summer.


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19 July 2018 14:03:31

It's interesting that 1959 seems to get mentioned quite a lot. However, as far as the CET summer series is concerned, 1959 only comes out at joint 24th position with 1997 with a CET of 16.57C. So perhaps the main reason why 1959 gets mentioned must be the warmth either side of the summer months?  In the CET autumn series, 1959 does come out joint 8th with 1978 with a CET of 11.58C. I can certainly attest that 1978 was a great autumn, so this must be one of the main reasons why 1959 frequently gets mentioned as a really good summer.

Originally Posted by: golfingmad 

Yes you’re right it was a long summer.  May was good but so was May this year.  


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Hungry Tiger
19 July 2018 14:11:36

It's interesting that 1959 seems to get mentioned quite a lot. However, as far as the CET summer series is concerned, 1959 only comes out at joint 24th position with 1997 with a CET of 16.57C. So perhaps the main reason why 1959 gets mentioned must be the warmth either side of the summer months?  In the CET autumn series, 1959 does come out joint 8th with 1978 with a CET of 11.58C. I can certainly attest that 1978 was a great autumn, so this must be one of the main reasons why 1959 frequently gets mentioned as a really good summer.

Originally Posted by: golfingmad 

I think the reason 1959 gets meentioned so much is that it was sunny for so long which culminated in an amazing September which was the driest September on record.

If this summer manages to do something like 1959 with this September - bearing in mind what its been like so far - I think everyone will never forget this year.

 


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golfingmad
19 July 2018 14:11:50

Yes you’re right it was a long summer.  May was good but so was May this year.  

Originally Posted by: Caz 

Yes I've just taken a quick look at the CET monthly series, and 1959 does appear to have a remarkably long run of warm months from May right through to October. Here they are:

May: 12.8

June: 15.2

July: 17.3

Aug: 17.2

Sept: 14.9

Oct: 12.6

So no record breaking months, just a consistent sequence of above average warm months from May to October. That in itself is quite remarkable!


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KevBrads1
19 July 2018 14:16:33
September 1959 was exceptionally dry, driest on record and there was an October heatwave around the time of the general election.
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superteacher
19 July 2018 14:53:16
Summer 1989 was a slow burner rather than very hot, although there were some hot spells. Such a relief after the dismal summer the year before, and I seem to recall that September was warm and sunny too.
Bolty
19 July 2018 15:06:39
It wouldn't surprise me if at least one of the autumn months this year was very wet. Hopefully it will be year where summer clings on through September and October with extremely wet weather arriving in November onwards.
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roadrunnerajn
19 July 2018 15:47:37
A continental summer slowly changing through Autumn to a continental winter...

We can dream... Weather without the words ..damp, grey, slightly chilly and windy..


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Caz
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19 July 2018 16:05:21

Yes I've just taken a quick look at the CET monthly series, and 1959 does appear to have a remarkably long run of warm months from May right through to October. Here they are:

May: 12.8

June: 15.2

July: 17.3

Aug: 17.2

Sept: 14.9

Oct: 12.6

So no record breaking months, just a consistent sequence of above average warm months from May to October. That in itself is quite remarkable!

Originally Posted by: golfingmad 

Yes it was dry too. My dad was kept very busy as a retained fireman at that time with grass and forest fires. 


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jhall
19 July 2018 17:34:13

A good question HT!  I think if it does last till August Bank Holiday some of us will be frazzled!  Yes, I think it will be good to the end!  I think we’re stuck in this pattern for a few more weeks even into October, like 1959.  

I remember 1959 as a good one because it lasted so long and as a child I was able to go out and play all summer!  Not too hot and no spells of extreme heat.  Just long hot summer days!  How all good summers should all be!  

 

Originally Posted by: Caz 

My memories of 1959 are very similar. For longevity, it would take a lot of beating.


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19 July 2018 18:31:42

 

My memories of 1959 are very similar. For longevity, it would take a lot of beating.

Originally Posted by: jhall 

I hope this summer continues into Autumn like 1959 so our younger generation get to experience a long summer, and so far it’s delivered half!  If it continues hot, or hotter as the models keep hinting, it will also surpass 1976, which was shorter but hotter.  So there’s a chance we could kill two birds with one stone!  A long very hot summer!  

Whatever does happen now, I’m pretty sure this summer will already be etched in memories and talked about for years to come!  


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Stolen Snowman
20 July 2018 21:10:37

Whatever does happen now, I’m pretty sure this summer will already be etched in memories and talked about for years to come! 

Originally Posted by: Caz 

No doubt people will moan in years to come that we don’t get decent summers like we used to...

It’s funny though how your memory plays tricks.  I always remembered the giant thunderstorm that brought 1976’s to an end being in early September just before returning to school. From reading on here it must have been earlier.


Statistics prove that the period just after records began witnessed some of the most extreme weather ever recorded. Records were being broken on a frequency that has not been repeated since.

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ozone_aurora
03 August 2018 19:02:18

Here are the detailed (turning out to be lengthy) facts about very warm/hot summers (for England) in my life, how they ended, and how I remembered them. I lived near Lincoln from 1972 to August 1989, and lived in Lowestoft since September 1989. Hope you've enjoy reading it (and hope it's not too long winded!). Please let me know if there are any inaccuracies.

Sources of info include: www.trevorharley.com/weather_web_pages/britweather_years.html, and, Weatherwise: The "Sunday Telegraph" Companion to the British Weather (Paperback).


2018 - A impressively very dry, hot and sunny early summer. So far this summer is on par with 1976 and may even challenge it. No measurable precipitation here in Lowestoft from 2 June to 27 July. Drought began in early May but broken by some severe thunderstorms in in late month (including 1 modest storm here). However, it was broken late on 27 July with some much welcomed rain, and there were some severe storms over parts of the country. However, the early summer has been noted for lack of thunderstorms, and the humidity has been low untill late July.
How will this summer end? July turned out to have an unsettled and wet ending, but hot, dry and sunny weather has now returned for central/southern areas for at least early August. But how long will it last? Well only time will tell!

2014 - June was mostly warm and sunny after an unsettled start, and July had good deal of very warm, sunny weather, although it was actually quite an unsettled month with some notable thunderstorms. The highest temp was 32.3 C at Swanscombe Marsh (Kent), and the average sunshine was 258 hrs over England and Wales.
August a had a warm, sultry start, and quite thundery too, but the heat ended abruptly by 10th, as ex-hurricane Bertha caused a major shift in NH jet stream, ushering in cool, unsettled and wet rest of the month. It was the coolest August since 1993.
Mostly warm, dry, sunny conditions returned for September.

2013 - After a dry but uneventful June, July was a superb hot, dry, sunny month. Max temparature of 28 C or more was recorded at least one location on each of those 19 days. Humidity was low in early to mid month with relatively cool nights and lack of t'storms, but turned humid and quite thundery with warm nights in late month. Highest temperature was 33.5C which was recorded at Heathrow and Northolt. The 19th saw the highest temperature for Northern Ireland with 30.1C at Castlederg, Scotland with 29.7C at Cupar (Fife), and Wales, with 31.4C
August was cooler, more variable, but still with plenty of pleasently warm, fine weather. This led to an early heatwave in September (with 30.2C at Writtle, nr Chelmsford, Essex, on Thursday 5th), but ended by the 6th, ushering a rather cool, dull rest of the month. However, there were still some fine days.

2006 - A mostly warm, dry sunny June, followed by an amazingly hot, dry, sunny July with a CET of 19.7 C. The highest temperature was 36.5 at Wisley (Surrey) and 36.3C near Gatwick Airport in Sussex. It also reached 30.5C at Prestiwck in Scotland, and a new Welsh July record of 34.2 C (Penhow, Newport). 30C was reached somewhere in the country every day from 16th to 27th, except 23rd. There were scattered thunderstorms, several severe ones. However, the hot summer ended abruptly at start of August, ushering in a cool, miserable, very unsettled and wet month. Very warm conditions returned for September with Met Office CET of 16.8 C, but was actually a quite unsettled, thundery month. Flooding occurred in Great Yarmouth and Lowestoft on 25th, with Lowestoft recording 52.9 mm in the 24 hour period ending 1800 UTC

 

2003 - June was very warm and sunny with a CET of 16.1 C. July was also very warm. It started off cool and wet, but always warm from the 5th. The 2nd half was actually quite unsettled, but there was a notable heatwave in mid month.

August was very hot, dry and sunny, with an amazing, record-breaking heatwave in early month; 38.1 C was recorded in Gravesend on 10th. It turned much cooler, cloudier, with much welcomed rain in last week.
Very pleasant warm, dry conditions returned for September. It ended around the 25th/26th when a marked cold front swept across the country.

1996 - Not as hot as summer '95, but June and July were very pleasant months with very warm, dry, sunny conditions. August was quite unsettled and thundery at times, but had frequent spells of very warm, sunny weather. It ended in late month with cool, very wet, showery and windy spell. Fine, pleasant conditions returned by early September, but turned cool from 4th. Worked at a local theme park, and enjoyed the summer weather after a bad year.


1995 - The summer started off rather late, as June was very cool, miserable and wet in early half here in Lowestoft. It turned mostly dry and sunny in 2nd half. After a brief hot spell, it was mostly cool here with NE'erly winds. Much warmer elsewhere, but a cold front brought a dramatic temperature drop across the country on 30th (but not very noticeable here), but had very little cloud and no rain.
July was mostly hot, dry and sunny. Some major t’storms too. A severe storm caused numerous lightning damage across E Anglia on 11th; it blew up the computers at a local theme park.

August was an impressively dry, hot and sunny month; the hottest and sunniest August on record. Unfortunately, was mostly ill so could not enjoy the Summer.
The last week turned much cooler and cloudier, signalling major change by September, resulting in a dull, very unsettled and wet month. There were some impressive lightning displays over the Sea, as rPM airmass slowly flowed over very warm waters.
Warm, dry sunny conditions returned for October, slowly fading by November.

1994 - June was quite cool and unsettled till 12th, then very warm and sunny thereafter. It was settled at first, then quite thundery; severe t’storms swept NE across SE England on 24th, causing marked asthma outbreak. Here, I saw very frequent spider lightnings to the SW but weakened considerablely by time it arrived overhead.
July was mostly very hot and sunny. However, it was humid with regular thunderstorms and some of these were violent; 22,000 lightning strikes over Staffordshire and N Derbyshire. Many parts of SE England had hottest nights of the 20th Century, with minima of over 20 C.

The heat did not last long into August. It was hot and thundery at first, then unsettled, wet and much cooler (though still quite warm here). Thunderstorms occurred regularly. This similar unsettled, wet theme continued for most of September; thunderstorms occurring regularly over very warm southern N Sea with some nice lightning displays.

1990 - An another hot summer but shorter than that of 1989. After a warm, dry May, with a notable heat wave in early month, June was actually quite a cool, unsettled, westerly-type month, which continued into 1st week of July with a wet and windy spell. Summer set in after that, and so became hot, dry and sunny for the rest of the month.

August was mostly very warm, dry and sunny. There was an amazing heatwave at the start of the month; max temps of 35 was quite widespread, with 37.1 C recorded at Cheltenham on the 3rd. A much cooler, fresh spell with much welcomed rain fell around 14-15th, but further warm, dry, sunny spells occurred during the rest of the month, ending a band of lively thunderstorms sweeping across E Anglia from the SW.
The summer type weather gradually came to a close in September, with a cool, wet spell, but there was also some pleasent, mellow sunny days. Autumn set in from the 19th for the remainder of the month.

1989 - A very pleasently warm, very dry and sunny summer. Not as hot as the summers of '83 and '76, but it was noted for being very prolonged. It was broken with shortlived cool, rainly spells, just enough to freshen things up very nicely, but very warm, dry sunny weather soon returned.
It started at beginning of May resulting in mostly very warm, dry and sunny month. It was the driest May of the century, with CET of 13.0 C, and over 300 hours of sunshine was widely recorded for the first time since 1909. However, it was also noted for a severe Halifax storm that produced approx 193.2 mm of rain at Walshaw Den Lodge nr Hebden Bridge.
There was a cool, unsettled spell at the beginning and the end of June, with a warm, sunny spell sandwiched in between. July was a hot, dry and sunny month, with a CET of 18.2 C. I went to Washington DC in late month, which was very hot, but amazed how unsettled and wet it was with regular thunderstorms (the River Potomac levels were very high); the type of weather actually more like southern England in September 1995 or August 2004, but 10 degrees hotter! Back in UK, the highest max temp was 34.2 C at Heathrow on the 22nd; the highest temperature since 1976.
Unsettled weather started to make inroads in August for the NW, but mostly very warm, dry sunny conditions continued for the central and SE areas. A mostly cool, northerly spell set in by the end of the month.
However, mostly warm, dry, sunny conditions soon returned and dominated September. 27 C was widespread across England on the 7th. It became quite thundery too in mid month. The summer finally came to a close by end of September.


1984 - Not as hot as summer as 1983, but there was plenty of very warm, fine weather. The year was also noted for very dry, warm, sunny April but with a very cold start!
June started off quite unsettled, then it was mostly warm and dry, particularly sunny in the E. July was mostly very warm, dry and sunny. There was also some notable thunderstorms; the lightning causing severe damage to the York Minster on 9th.

August was mostly hot and sunny. However, there was an cool, unsettled spell at the start of the month with some heavy rain and showers, much welcomed at the time, but mostly hot, fine weather resumed on 8th and dominated for rest of the month; 32C was recorded at Jersey on the 20th; and even reached 31C at Prestwick.
There was a heatwave at the start of September, but the hot summer came to an abrupt end on the 4th. Mostly cool, very unsettled, wet conditions dominated the rest of the month. Also quite a thundery month, too.

1983 - A notably hot, dry and sunny summer, the 1st one I remember very well (I was 12). It didn't really get going till July, but it was much welcomed after a cold, wet late March, April and May. I got quite worried about possible crop failures as they've had a slow start.
June started off unsettled. There were some severe thunderstorm over parts of England with hailstones up to 75mm in Manchester and Brighton. Thereafter is was mostly dry. There was a dry, sunny spell in mid month, but with quite chilly NE'erly winds.
July was impressively hot, dry and sunny; the hottest July of 20th century (CET of 19.C, I think). Max temperatures of 32C was reached somewhere in the country every day from the 12-16th. I was camping in the Yorkshire Dales and the caravan was like a furnace; the outside max temp was 31 C. This month was noted for some severe thunderstorms and there were with a number of lightning deaths. There was all night t'storms here nr Lincoln before a cool break at the end of the month.
August had a brief cool, showery start (a much welcome break), but fine weather soon returned. Not as hot as July but very pleasant warm, dry sunny conditions dominated the rest of the month. It was very warm with constant sunshine when I was on a week holiday in Lowestoft but some impressive thundery showers occurred over the Fens on my way home, the only other unsettled spell I'd remembered occuring that month.
The hot summer came to a close in early September, and cool, unsettled, wet conditions dominated the month; there was notable southerly gales in the early month. However, there was a warm spell, with mellow sunshine in late month; a max of 26 C was recorded in Exeter and Jersey.

1976 - A superb hot, dry, sunny summer. I don't have much memories of it as I was only 5 years old. June had a short cool, rather unsettled spell at first, but the high pressure set in by 7th and mostly hot, dry sunny weather dominated the rest of the month. The was an amazing prolonged heatwave from 23 June to 7 July; 32 C was recorded somewhere in the UK, the highest being 35.6C at Mayflower Park in Southampton on the 28th.
July was a superb hot, dry and sunny month. 27 C was exceeded every day in some part of the country from 22 June to 16 July, highest being 35.9 C in Cheltenham on the 3rd. I seem to remember that windows were fitted with Aluminium sheet to keep out the heat!
August was another mostly hot, dry sunny month. Many parts of the south recorded 330 hours of sunshine and there was a maxima of around 30 C on 24-25th, with some places hitting 32 C. The hot summer ended abruptly on 27th with dramatic thunderstorms, just after the Ministry for Drought came into being. Thereafter, September was a cool, very unsettled and wet month. The rain never stopped falling, and very wet conditions continued throughout October; the drought truly ended!

1975 - A mostly very warm, dry and sunny summer. It was the beginning of a long drought that culminated in the famous hot summer of 1976, but there was a break in September. For me, I have very little memory of it, however (I was 4).
June started with an unusually cold, northerly spell, in fact snow fell and lay on high ground in the Midlands on morning of 2nd, and snow actually stopped cricket play at Buxton for a day. However, a major change in the weather occurred by the 6th; the high pressure becoming established and max temps of 25 C was widespread. It reached 28 C on 7th. The rest of the month was mostly hot, dry and sunny, but with some notable thunderstoms.
July was mostly very warm, but actually was quite an unsettled month and there were some severe t'storms. Howver it was very dry in the S.
August was an impressively hot month, but which is also noted for some severe thunderstorms. 34 C was reached in the S (not sure exact location though) on 8th, and 31.2 C was reached in Glasgow on 4th, the highest for 107 years. There was an amazing thunderstorm, known as the Hampstead Storm, in London on 14th. It was a supercell storm, and 170.8 mm fell over Hampstead in 2.5 hours and hail as large as 16 mm reported. Cars floated on the streets which were like rivers, and 1 person was drowned. The underground was also flooded and N London rail service were disrupted for 24 hrs.
The hot summer ended abruptly on 12th of September, resulting in a cool, unsettled and wet rest of the month. However drought returned in October, which was a quiet, settled month.


DEW
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04 August 2018 06:26:24

An interesting read and worth posting.

In respect of the 1975 Hampstead storm, it must have been very local (and I thought so at the time), almost as if the centre was exactly over the rain gauge. We were driving from Dover up to Finchley after a late ferry crossing , heard of the storm on the radio as we took a break near Ashford, and expected trouble. However, as we drove up the Finchley Road a bit after midnight, there had obviously been heavy rain but not the major flooding we expected.

EDIT - a bit more research yielded figures which showed how local the rainfall was, with amounts down to 2-3" within a couple of miles, still heavy but not exceptional. The local paper in a 2012 review claimed that the report of a man drowned was an 'urban myth' as they would have eported it at the time had it occurred.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/mohippo/pdf/n/t/hampstead_storm_-_14_august_1975.pdf


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Bolty
04 August 2018 10:58:06

 

Yes I've just taken a quick look at the CET monthly series, and 1959 does appear to have a remarkably long run of warm months from May right through to October. Here they are:

May: 12.8

June: 15.2

July: 17.3

Aug: 17.2

Sept: 14.9

Oct: 12.6

So no record breaking months, just a consistent sequence of above average warm months from May to October. That in itself is quite remarkable!

Originally Posted by: golfingmad 

That's the glory of summer 1959. Rather than it seeing one or two months of very hot weather, it saw six months of sunny, dry and pleasantly warm temperatures. I think there was only two real notable heat waves in those six months - one in early July and another in early October, can you believe? The rest of the time, it was just settled, dry and pleasantly warm.

Chart for 3 October 1959: 28.3C in Rugby, Faversham and Mickleham


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Phil 2804
04 August 2018 14:56:29
Will always remember September 1995. Iirc wettest month on record at Aberdeen with over 10 inches of rain, 9 of which fell over just 4 days. Was a truly spectacular end to the drought.

If search on YouTube the BBC weather forecast for 12th September is on there with a summary of the rainfall totals.

UncleAlbert
06 August 2018 21:48:47

The 1959 summer is a classic example of how statistics do not always completely convey the experience or perception of the conditions of the times that they represent. When we compare our weather experiences, there is no demarcation of meteorological seasons.  I remember 1959 as the benchmark with which all other 'summers' compared if you are looking for sunshine, warmth and longevity. (What more do we need?).  I remember the time in mid October that year when the rain finally arrived and it was acclaimed to the same degree as a major snowfall!

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