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Jonesy
19 June 2012 22:13:39

Czech rep v portugal.thurs
Germany v greece fri
spain v france sat.
England v italy sunday

Originally Posted by: schmee 

Have to admit I don't feel confident about England's chances but I never was watching Chelsea all last season

Czech Republic v Portugal is a tricky one to call imo, Never know what Cxech side will turn up gotta think the Germans will get through but this Tournament is throwing a few suprises but I think Germany will see it through, Spain won't have it easy if France turn up and attack the Spanish defence and not sit off.

 

Before the Tournament started I worked out the results and came up with a German v Spain Final and I still think it's on course for that hopefully I'm wrong though.


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SEMerc
19 June 2012 22:14:22

From the Beeb.

Alan in Manchester on text: "I really believe if Roy had been our manager for the last 10 years Spain would not be the dominant force in Europe. His tactics are spot on. We are weaker than four years ago player wise. Managerially we are 100% better off."

Nurse.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

The Spain bit is utter bollocks but Roy is 100% a better manager for England than Capello.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

In many ways you're right. Woy's limitations as a manager are a perfect match for England's limitations as a team.

God forbid; much as I detest the little midget twat, England really do need a Wilshere in midfield. Hopefully, when he comes back from injury England will improve. Ditto Walker, although I still think Woy has a bias towards Johnson.

Jonesy
19 June 2012 22:22:42

Now will be the interesting part of Roy's tactics will he switch from the 442 and pack out the midfield with a 451 against the Italians?

 

The problem Hodgson faces is if he changes an unbeaten run now and goes 451 for the next game and we lose he will get slaughtered.

 

Tricky one !


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The Beast from the East
19 June 2012 22:24:54

I hope England do a Chelsea

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Seems to be the strategy and it is so far working.  Eng are not the most talented side in this tournament, far from it, but they seem to be playing to their strengths and  winning ugly (like Chelsea!)

 


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Matty H
19 June 2012 22:29:41
Watching the highlights again now on BBC, and Ashley Young actually had a very decent game. Four or five testing balls into the box and linked up well.
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Jonesy
19 June 2012 22:31:53

I hope England do a Chelsea

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Seems to be the strategy and it is so far working.  Eng are not the most talented side in this tournament, far from it, but they seem to be playing to their strengths and  winning ugly (like Chelsea!)

 

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Yep and if we win the competition deep down the majority of people won't give a flying f**k how we won it, there will still be the maoners on forums like this though.

 I've seen plenty of good teams/squads not win a Europan Competition.

 


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Jonesy
19 June 2012 22:33:52

Watching the highlights again now on BBC, and Ashley Young actually had a very decent game. Four or five testing balls into the box and linked up well.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

I'm not anti Rooney but for me he didn't have a good game but that'll be forgotten by many because of the tap in. Interesting that Wellbeck didn't look like he has done in the previous games.

 


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Matty H
19 June 2012 22:35:42

Watching the highlights again now on BBC, and Ashley Young actually had a very decent game. Four or five testing balls into the box and linked up well.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I'm not anti Rooney but for me je didn't have a good game but that'll be forgotten because of the tap in. Interesting that Wellbeck didn't look like he has done in the previous games.

 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Well, you'll always get moaners on forums like this I suppose. The main thing is we won...

See what I did there?


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Jonesy
19 June 2012 22:40:30

Watching the highlights again now on BBC, and Ashley Young actually had a very decent game. Four or five testing balls into the box and linked up well.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

I'm not anti Rooney but for me je didn't have a good game but that'll be forgotten because of the tap in. Interesting that Wellbeck didn't look like he has done in the previous games.

 

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Well, you'll always get moaners on forums like this I suppose. The main thing is we won... See what I did there?

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Indeed, but mine wasn't about the result, it was an individual.

As for the result I am Happy BUT a stated earlier in this Thread WIN OR LOSE I will always support my country and NOT act a prat because of a Manager and the Squad he picks. Just like I will always watch England if I can.

The biggest difference here is alot of the moaners claimed they wouldn't be watching England Games, yet have alot of opinion on them now. not aimed at you of course during the France game because as you stated you was doing your Accounts and atleast you listened to the game on the Radio.


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Saint Snow
19 June 2012 22:44:08

Wonder if Pratini will be so 'non!' about goal line technology from here on in. Pity France didn't get a draw so the disallowed 'goal' would have really mattered, costing France the group win.

Rugged performance from Engalnd, but we made Ukraine look a far better side than they are. Terry was outstanding, Gerrard had his best game in an England shirt for some time (he was everywhere tonight), the two Ashleys went well and Scotty did what he's good at.


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Matty H
19 June 2012 22:44:21

Watching the highlights again now on BBC, and Ashley Young actually had a very decent game. Four or five testing balls into the box and linked up well.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I'm not anti Rooney but for me je didn't have a good game but that'll be forgotten because of the tap in. Interesting that Wellbeck didn't look like he has done in the previous games.

 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Well, you'll always get moaners on forums like this I suppose. The main thing is we won... See what I did there?

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Indeed, but mine wasn't about the result, it was an individual.

As for the result I am Happy BUT a stated earlier in this Thread WIN OR LOSE I will always support my country and NOT act a prat because of a Manager and the Squad he picks. Just like I will always watch England if I can.

The biggest difference here is alot of the moaners claimed they wouldn't be watching England Games, yet have alot of opinion on them now.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

England is very proud of you :-P

Remarkable how lack of expectation and pressure can enhance ones enjoyment. Even when Ukraine had us under pressure (about 80 mins of the game) at no stage did I feel anxious. Thoroughly enjoyed it, far more than I have any tournament since Mexico 1986 I think.


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19 June 2012 22:45:25

Place your bets on the England vs Italy outcome.

Final Score : 2-1 England (being biast) 
First scrorer: Danny Welbeck

Ally Pally Snowman
19 June 2012 22:46:02

Hodgson has done a brilliant job so far with this average team 10 out of 10. Gerrard was fantastic yet again as well.

We can definitely beat Italy if we keep defending like we have done, have to try and keep the ball a bit better though.

All in all though I have rarely seen England play better in a tournament hats off to Roy great stuff!!!!   


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Matty H
19 June 2012 22:47:30

Place your bets on the England vs Italy outcome.

Final Score : 2-1 England (being biast) 
First scrorer: Danny Welbeck

Originally Posted by: WeatherExpert81 

Good luck to anyone that thinks they can predict this game. It could be anything from penalties, to a crushing England win, to vice versa


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Saint Snow
19 June 2012 22:48:22

Thoroughly enjoyed it, far more than I have any tournament since Mexico 1986 I think.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

O/T but for me Euro 96 will take some beating. Yes, there was expectation, but the side largely lived up to it.


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Jonesy
19 June 2012 22:48:32

Watching the highlights again now on BBC, and Ashley Young actually had a very decent game. Four or five testing balls into the box and linked up well.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

I'm not anti Rooney but for me je didn't have a good game but that'll be forgotten because of the tap in. Interesting that Wellbeck didn't look like he has done in the previous games.

 

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Well, you'll always get moaners on forums like this I suppose. The main thing is we won... See what I did there?

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Indeed, but mine wasn't about the result, it was an individual.

As for the result I am Happy BUT a stated earlier in this Thread WIN OR LOSE I will always support my country and NOT act a prat because of a Manager and the Squad he picks. Just like I will always watch England if I can.

The biggest difference here is alot of the moaners claimed they wouldn't be watching England Games, yet have alot of opinion on them now.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

England is very proud of you 😛 Remarkable how lack of expectation and pressure can enhance ones enjoyment. Even when Ukraine had us under pressure (about 80 mins of the game) at no stage did I feel anxious. Thoroughly enjoyed it, far more than I have any tournament since Mexico 1986 I think.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

I felt the same during all of Chelsea's Games in the Champions League after the away leg in Napoli

I got a little nervous during the Sweden game when we went 2-1 down I gotta admit but I did feel we could get a goal and was think even if it went 2-2 a point might do us if we can then beat Ukraine.

Am I right in saying that if England had of got Spain we could of avoided the German's till the Final if we got past Spain?

EDIT: Yeah just seen the Tournament Tree

 


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19 June 2012 22:50:47

If we win against Italy, presuming Germany beat Greece then we will face Germany in the Semi's...

Matty H
19 June 2012 22:51:55

Watching the highlights again now on BBC, and Ashley Young actually had a very decent game. Four or five testing balls into the box and linked up well.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I'm not anti Rooney but for me je didn't have a good game but that'll be forgotten because of the tap in. Interesting that Wellbeck didn't look like he has done in the previous games.

 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Well, you'll always get moaners on forums like this I suppose. The main thing is we won... See what I did there?

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Indeed, but mine wasn't about the result, it was an individual.

As for the result I am Happy BUT a stated earlier in this Thread WIN OR LOSE I will always support my country and NOT act a prat because of a Manager and the Squad he picks. Just like I will always watch England if I can.

The biggest difference here is alot of the moaners claimed they wouldn't be watching England Games, yet have alot of opinion on them now.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

England is very proud of you 😛 Remarkable how lack of expectation and pressure can enhance ones enjoyment. Even when Ukraine had us under pressure (about 80 mins of the game) at no stage did I feel anxious. Thoroughly enjoyed it, far more than I have any tournament since Mexico 1986 I think.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I felt the same during all of Chelsea's Games in the Champions League after the away leg in Napoli

I got a little nervous during the Sweden game when we went 2-1 down I gotta admit but I did feel we could get a goal and was think even if it went 2-2 a point might do us if we can then beat Ukraine.

Am I right in saying that if England had of got Spain we could of avoided the German's till the Final if we got past Spain?

 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

You are, but then again Germany have a game against France yet, and who would have thought France would get dicked tonight by Sweden?

This tournament has been marked by weird results and turnaround. Look at Holland. Look at the Russia group. There have been some bizarre results and scenarios that have happened.

I don't think anyone has said this yet, but it's also worth saying this was a more than decent Ukraine side with massive home advantage. A side that I honestly believe could have gone much further.


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Jonesy
19 June 2012 22:53:13

Watching the highlights again now on BBC, and Ashley Young actually had a very decent game. Four or five testing balls into the box and linked up well.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

I'm not anti Rooney but for me je didn't have a good game but that'll be forgotten because of the tap in. Interesting that Wellbeck didn't look like he has done in the previous games.

 

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Well, you'll always get moaners on forums like this I suppose. The main thing is we won... See what I did there?

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Indeed, but mine wasn't about the result, it was an individual.

As for the result I am Happy BUT a stated earlier in this Thread WIN OR LOSE I will always support my country and NOT act a prat because of a Manager and the Squad he picks. Just like I will always watch England if I can.

The biggest difference here is alot of the moaners claimed they wouldn't be watching England Games, yet have alot of opinion on them now.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

England is very proud of you 😛 Remarkable how lack of expectation and pressure can enhance ones enjoyment. Even when Ukraine had us under pressure (about 80 mins of the game) at no stage did I feel anxious. Thoroughly enjoyed it, far more than I have any tournament since Mexico 1986 I think.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

I felt the same during all of Chelsea's Games in the Champions League after the away leg in Napoli

I got a little nervous during the Sweden game when we went 2-1 down I gotta admit but I did feel we could get a goal and was think even if it went 2-2 a point might do us if we can then beat Ukraine.

Am I right in saying that if England had of got Spain we could of avoided the German's till the Final if we got past Spain?

 

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

You are, but then again Germany have a game against France yet, and who would have thought France would get dicked tonight by Sweden? This tournament has been marked by weird results and turnaround. Look at Holland. Look at the Russia group. There have been some bizarre results and scenarios that have happened. I don't think anyone has said this yet, but it's also worth saying this was a more than decent Ukraine side with massive home advantage. A side that I honestly believe could have gone much further.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Germany have Greece Matty and Spain have France.

I was amazed on Saturday Night at the Russia outcome


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Matty H
19 June 2012 22:58:40

Watching the highlights again now on BBC, and Ashley Young actually had a very decent game. Four or five testing balls into the box and linked up well.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I'm not anti Rooney but for me je didn't have a good game but that'll be forgotten because of the tap in. Interesting that Wellbeck didn't look like he has done in the previous games.

 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Well, you'll always get moaners on forums like this I suppose. The main thing is we won... See what I did there?

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Indeed, but mine wasn't about the result, it was an individual.

As for the result I am Happy BUT a stated earlier in this Thread WIN OR LOSE I will always support my country and NOT act a prat because of a Manager and the Squad he picks. Just like I will always watch England if I can.

The biggest difference here is alot of the moaners claimed they wouldn't be watching England Games, yet have alot of opinion on them now.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

England is very proud of you 😛 Remarkable how lack of expectation and pressure can enhance ones enjoyment. Even when Ukraine had us under pressure (about 80 mins of the game) at no stage did I feel anxious. Thoroughly enjoyed it, far more than I have any tournament since Mexico 1986 I think.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I felt the same during all of Chelsea's Games in the Champions League after the away leg in Napoli

I got a little nervous during the Sweden game when we went 2-1 down I gotta admit but I did feel we could get a goal and was think even if it went 2-2 a point might do us if we can then beat Ukraine.

Am I right in saying that if England had of got Spain we could of avoided the German's till the Final if we got past Spain?

 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

You are, but then again Germany have a game against France yet, and who would have thought France would get dicked tonight by Sweden? This tournament has been marked by weird results and turnaround. Look at Holland. Look at the Russia group. There have been some bizarre results and scenarios that have happened. I don't think anyone has said this yet, but it's also worth saying this was a more than decent Ukraine side with massive home advantage. A side that I honestly believe could have gone much further.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Germany have Greece Matty and Spain have France.

I was amazed on Saturday Night at the Russia outcome

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Sorry, getting ahead of myself. Yep, Greece, and given their incredible turnaround the other night who'd bet against them? I would in all honesty, but you can just see something crazy happening. Imagine an England v Greece semi. Lol!


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Ally Pally Snowman
19 June 2012 22:58:55

Looking at the highlights Sweden have battered France, again shows how well we have played in this group.


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Saint Snow
19 June 2012 23:01:39

England-Italy has the potential to be a right stinker of a game.


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Matty H
19 June 2012 23:02:10

Looking at the highlights Sweden have battered France, again shows how well we have played in this group.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Depends how you look at it. As the commentator and now Linekar and the pundits are saying - this is a poor France side.


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Ally Pally Snowman
19 June 2012 23:04:49

Looking at the highlights Sweden have battered France, again shows how well we have played in this group.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Depends how you look at it. As the commentator and now Linekar and the pundits are saying - this is a poor France side.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Every team that plays England seems to be poor. I can see France beating Spain.


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Romfordman
19 June 2012 23:06:08

Looking at the highlights Sweden have battered France, again shows how well we have played in this group.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Yes but Sweden were playing for pride and France were pretty well through, their game was later and they would have known the result.

I know its a stretch, but I thought that Sweden would win, because they had to.


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