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DEW
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03 March 2026 09:29:53

I've observed the decline of this species over the past ten to twenty years. Anecdotal evidence doesn't count for much though at least for DEFRA or whoever the official custodians are.  Whichever party is in power, it's often all the same with these fish and other natural resources and I doubt Reform would be any better. I'm working on a portfolio about Sea Kale Crambe maritima. Celebrity chefs as with bass and mackerel, are having a bash at this species too. So the location is anonymous as there are only ten plants in this colony. Will my work to protect this plant work? I'll know in a year.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

Why do these chefs insist on wild plants? Probably easier to go out and strip the plants rather than waiting for a supplier to get organised.

But you can grow sea kale from seed - and though the article suggests (unfortunately) collecting seed from the wild, the seed is available commercially

https://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/grow-plants/how-to-grow-sea-kale-2/ 

Good luck with your campaign.


War is God's way of teaching Americans geography - Ambrose Bierce

Chichester 12m asl

NMA
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03 March 2026 10:37:41

Why do these chefs insist on wild plants? Probably easier to go out and strip the plants rather than waiting for a supplier to get organised.

But you can grow sea kale from seed - and though the article suggests (unfortunately) collecting seed from the wild, the seed is available commercially

https://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/grow-plants/how-to-grow-sea-kale-2/ 

Good luck with your campaign.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

I agree with the wild plants bit, but an environmental disaster. We never seem to learn.  The Victorians stripped rockpools of their inhabitants too for the craze they began in saltwater indoor rock pools. Took years to recover from wherever the collectors went. They certainly knew how to cultivate sea kale and blanche it like rhubarb. But they also dug up prodigious amounts for cultivation which then went out of favour or were abandoned in the old-fashioned walled gardens. World War I had an effect. Heligan for one example of failed walled gardens. Thus reducing wild populations.  It's hermaphrodite, so probably wouldn't agree with some people... Actually, seeds aren't the only way either. Root cuttings work well. But this of course this method  of propagation prevents the genetic diversity that seeds might provide. I think there are one or two commercial growers again of sea kale. Which is good. 

I think Purple Haze is in the bag from today. Just Fade to Grey and White Room to go. Cryptic eh. 


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

DEW
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03 March 2026 10:45:57
I've suggested to the Head Gardener at West Dean, Gardens where I'm a volunteer and where they grow specialist varieties of veg, increasingly for sale to wholesalers, that he might consider growing Sea Kale for profit.
War is God's way of teaching Americans geography - Ambrose Bierce

Chichester 12m asl

NMA
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03 March 2026 12:05:39
A  great idea David. I will be interested to see how it goes.
Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Roger Parsons
03 March 2026 14:31:13
Loch of the Lowes SWT Webcam. Osprey arrivals expected last week of March! [And you can appreciate the Scottish weather.]

https://scottishwildlifetrust.org.uk/things-to-do/watch-wildlife-online/loch-of-the-lowes-webcam/ 


RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

Roger Parsons
06 March 2026 16:50:32
Sightings of sandmartins here this last month, and today a swallow on the Humber bank!
RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

Roger Parsons
07 March 2026 10:46:50
Conservationists are awaiting the return of the first pair of ospreys to breed on England's south coast for 180 years.

Male osprey 022 and female CJ7 have nested at Careys Secret Garden near Wareham, Dorset, since 2022. The pair are expected to return from their annual migration, usually to western Africa, in late March.

Nest sites await return of history-making ospreys - Dorset

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgvv79g97vo 


RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

Bertwhistle
09 March 2026 19:12:15
Great discussion about sea kale- a favourite of mine. I harvest a few leaves- from different plants- in early summer, blanche and enjoy. The irony richness of brassica with a slightly marine mineral tang.

There are vast colonies on shingle in some places- the coast near Warsash and Hurst Beach among them.


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Bertwhistle
09 March 2026 19:14:07

Sightings of sandmartins here this last month, and today a swallow on the Humber bank!

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

They're encouraging them at Testwood Lakes near Totton, W of Southampton, with prefab nesting sites:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9v0l1n1wzpo .

Plan to visit over the next two weeks- a good network of hides at Testwood.


Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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Bertwhistle
10 March 2026 12:23:52
Wildflower boom year in Death Valley:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/cp81r54e2ngo 

Record wet autumn the re4ason it seems.


Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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NMA
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11 March 2026 07:39:24
"But imagine that they're actually blabbering all the time and we just couldn't hear it," she says.

Indeed, I've sometimes wondered if they are suffering from only a blocked nose.

Is blabbering ie talk foolishly, indiscreetly, or excessively the right word though? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8d52n0dnzro?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-gb 


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

DEW
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11 March 2026 08:10:27

A  great idea David. I will be interested to see how it goes.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

Reply from the Head Gardener:

We have a few clumps in the Kitchen Garden, but I take your point that we could look at growing more. It’s relatively easy to produce from seed so I’ll give it some thought.


War is God's way of teaching Americans geography - Ambrose Bierce

Chichester 12m asl

NMA
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11 March 2026 08:31:51
It's even easier to propagate from root cuttings. I stuck the cuttings vertically over a year ago from a mother plant with permission. Great to hear he wants more.

Mine in a pot is at the 'Purple Haze' phase. One in a border not quite so fast. No images as I can't post but they look beautiful in macro. 


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Bertwhistle
11 March 2026 15:29:27
Good news- the return of the Large Tortoiseshell across S England; and unusually, done without planned reintroduction:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxz78q7894o 


Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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Roger Parsons
11 March 2026 17:36:01

Good news- the return of the Large Tortoiseshell across S England; and unusually, done without planned reintroduction:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxz78q7894o 

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

Yes - I read that with interest, Bertie. I wonder when we will see them this far north.

I noticed a chilled-looking Tawny Mining Bee female on our doorstep today. It was windy and cold, so I offered her a corner of a tissue and she climbed aboard. I took her to a more sheltered raised flower bed and "suggested" she take cover there. She walked off the tissue and hid in a parsley plant. We have them nesting here every year. Wonderful creatures.

Tawny mining bee

https://www.naturespot.org/species/tawny-mining-bee 

https://www.bumblebeeconservation.org/learn-about-bumblebees/solitarybees/tawny-mining-bee/ 

https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/wildlife-explorer/invertebrates/bees-and-wasps/tawny-mining-bee 

also see:

Bee Fly - The larvae are parasitic, typically preying on the larvae of solitary bees.

https://www.naturespot.org/species/bee-fly 


RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

Bertwhistle
12 March 2026 10:47:32
Thanks Roger. Actually, on the bee-fly, we see them mostly in April, on pulmonaria and occasionally investigating celandines. But this year we have been seeing them irregularly for over a week- the pulmonaria are putting on a marvellous early show.

On another note- I'm having problems with magpies again terrorising anything that nests in our garden. We have a blackbird nesting in the tree fern, close to our conservatory but not in a particularly concealed spot. The other evening, a magpie found it and set the dam off squealing profusely as it approached, bringing the male in with his chook-chook-chook. The daschunds responded vocally (they hear these sounds when a c-a-t comes near) and saw the magpie off. Fortunately the blackbirds seem not bothered by the dogs or us.

Today, I heard then counted 13 magpies lined up and  jostling on the roof-tops over the back. Perhaps paranoid, I felt convinced they were preparing an offensive against nesting birds in our row of back gardens, so took the App: 'Chirp' outside.

I played magpie, which drew their attention and quietened them. I then played raven which silenced them and stopped them moving. The buzzard, sparrowhawk and red kite followed, which each sent them off in ones and twos, until with only 1 of the 13 left, I came in satisfied.

The magpies seem to disappear at sunset, giving the other birds a decent foraging window at this time of year.


Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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Roger Parsons
12 March 2026 11:57:34
The timing of the activity is intriguing. Mining Bees fill their burrows with a mixture of pollen and nectar on which to lay their eggs, so they rely on the weather bringing on flowering in spring.

Bee Flies will want to "squirt" their eggs into the Mining Bee burrows so their parasitic larva can feed on the Bee larvae. Nice clip of it...

Enjoy!


RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

Bertwhistle
12 March 2026 20:25:03
Love bee flies but that clip challenges my 'balanced' view.
Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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Roger Parsons
12 March 2026 21:02:58

Love bee flies but that clip challenges my 'balanced' view.

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

Yes - I fear so, Bertie! But life finds a way! 😬


RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

fairweather
12 March 2026 21:27:38

Good news- the return of the Large Tortoiseshell across S England; and unusually, done without planned reintroduction:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxz78q7894o 

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

So glad to hear this. A butterfly I remember well from my childhood. We have White Letter Hairstreaks around here whose food plant is also young Elm, which is starting to reestablish. I'm not sure I will live long enough to re-see a landscape of mature Elms again, once the most common tree around here. It was the nesting place of Tree Sparrows which are now extinct round here. I well remember all the hanging straw from their nests in the Elms and hope they return one day as well.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
12 March 2026 21:42:54

Thanks Roger. Actually, on the bee-fly, we see them mostly in April, on pulmonaria and occasionally investigating celandines. But this year we have been seeing them irregularly for over a week- the pulmonaria are putting on a marvellous early show.

On another note- I'm having problems with magpies again terrorising anything that nests in our garden. We have a blackbird nesting in the tree fern, close to our conservatory but not in a particularly concealed spot. The other evening, a magpie found it and set the dam off squealing profusely as it approached, bringing the male in with his chook-chook-chook. The daschunds responded vocally (they hear these sounds when a c-a-t comes near) and saw the magpie off. Fortunately the blackbirds seem not bothered by the dogs or us.

Today, I heard then counted 13 magpies lined up and  jostling on the roof-tops over the back. Perhaps paranoid, I felt convinced they were preparing an offensive against nesting birds in our row of back gardens, so took the App: 'Chirp' outside.

I played magpie, which drew their attention and quietened them. I then played raven which silenced them and stopped them moving. The buzzard, sparrowhawk and red kite followed, which each sent them off in ones and twos, until with only 1 of the 13 left, I came in satisfied.

The magpies seem to disappear at sunset, giving the other birds a decent foraging window at this time of year.

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

We have a big problem with magpies as well. We have a robin nesting and bluetits most years. We now have some carrion crows as well. Corvids seem to have taken over here with most other garden birds diminishing over the last few years - except wood pigeons!


S.Essex, 42m ASL
NMA
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13 March 2026 15:04:32
My daughter has just sent me this. I think it's brilliant!

https://visdeurbel.nl/en/ 


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Roger Parsons
14 March 2026 07:29:33

My daughter has just sent me this. I think it's brilliant!

https://visdeurbel.nl/en/ 

Originally Posted by: NMA 

Bit blurry, but fairly sure I've just seen a Bream. 😁🐟


RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

NMA
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14 March 2026 07:32:57

Bit blurry, but fairly sure I've just seen a Bream. 😁🐟

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

Excellent! As you say the clarity is a bit iffy but what would you expect on one of these waterways.


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Roger Parsons
14 March 2026 07:41:52
On the subject of kleptoparasites - there was a piece about oil beetles on BBC4 this morning. Listen. 😁

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b0112975 

Here a Somerset Wildlife Trust page:

It’s Oil in the Name

https://www.somersetwildlife.org/blog/becky-walters/its-oil-name 


RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

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