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Saint Snow
06 April 2011 23:42:33

A lot of jumping on the bandwagon type discussion on here regarding the Rooney incident borne out of a hatred of Man Utd. I stand by what I said earlier in the thread that while I disapprove of Rooney's behaviour there needs to be some consistensy regarding the sanction......it appears that a number of managers and the PFA agree

For the sake of the game there needs to be rules that all participants in the game understand and that needs to be applied to every team and every player everywhere on the pitch.

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

I'm not aware of any similar incidents of a player screaming expletives into a camera that's broadcasting live into lunchtime homes across the UK (and overseas) but please feel free to jog my memory if you wish.


Martin

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Aneurin Bevan

wallaw
07 April 2011 07:02:18

A lot of jumping on the bandwagon type discussion on here regarding the Rooney incident borne out of a hatred of Man Utd. I stand by what I said earlier in the thread that while I disapprove of Rooney's behaviour there needs to be some consistensy regarding the sanction......it appears that a number of managers and the PFA agree

For the sake of the game there needs to be rules that all participants in the game understand and that needs to be applied to every team and every player everywhere on the pitch.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

I'm not aware of any similar incidents of a player screaming expletives into a camera that's broadcasting live into lunchtime homes across the UK (and overseas) but please feel free to jog my memory if you wish.

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

Perhaps not to those details, but are you trying to suggest Rooney is the only footballer you have heard swear?


Ian

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future_is_orange
07 April 2011 07:21:54

A lot of jumping on the bandwagon type discussion on here regarding the Rooney incident borne out of a hatred of Man Utd. I stand by what I said earlier in the thread that while I disapprove of Rooney's behaviour there needs to be some consistensy regarding the sanction......it appears that a number of managers and the PFA agree

For the sake of the game there needs to be rules that all participants in the game understand and that needs to be applied to every team and every player everywhere on the pitch.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

I'm not aware of any similar incidents of a player screaming expletives into a camera that's broadcasting live into lunchtime homes across the UK (and overseas) but please feel free to jog my memory if you wish.

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

First part of your post makes a valid point. The rest of course was written to add a little mischief perhaps, but if anyone speaks into a camera / mic pitchside then yes it will get broadcast and if it is a prem game then yes it will be broadcast in the UK and Worldwide and if the game is played at lunchtime and broadcast live then yes it will be piped into peoples homes at lunchtime in the UK + most of europe and at other times worldwide.

Saint Snow
07 April 2011 09:16:29

A lot of jumping on the bandwagon type discussion on here regarding the Rooney incident borne out of a hatred of Man Utd. I stand by what I said earlier in the thread that while I disapprove of Rooney's behaviour there needs to be some consistensy regarding the sanction......it appears that a number of managers and the PFA agree

For the sake of the game there needs to be rules that all participants in the game understand and that needs to be applied to every team and every player everywhere on the pitch.

Originally Posted by: wallaw 

I'm not aware of any similar incidents of a player screaming expletives into a camera that's broadcasting live into lunchtime homes across the UK (and overseas) but please feel free to jog my memory if you wish.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Perhaps not to those details, but are you trying to suggest Rooney is the only footballer you have heard swear?

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

No, not at all.

Maybe you (and FIO) see this differently, but I view the random swearing by player on the pitch (or coaching staff on the touchline) as palpably different to running over to a camera, thrusting your face into its lens, and swearing down it.

 


Martin

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A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

Aneurin Bevan

Saint Snow
07 April 2011 11:14:35

Just to add a bit of context, Robbie Fowler was banned for 4 games for light-heartedly sniffing the touchline in response to taunts from Everton fans that he was a coke-head.


Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

Aneurin Bevan

future_is_orange
09 April 2011 06:14:33

Not premiership related.....But how is this for a penalty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPedN0wTZpA

 

SEMerc
09 April 2011 22:35:09

Hmmmm Sturridge gets a brace against the Spammers. Meanwhile, the wait, for Torres, goes on.

Gary L
10 April 2011 10:07:31

You'd think Rooney had killed a child the way some people are treating him at the moment. The amount of stick he's getting is completely unjustified. I expect to see the PM on television any day now blaming Rooney for ruining a generation of Children with his naughty language! 

I find what Rooney did distasteful, but the reaction from some of the media and the public is ridiculous. I think SAF's press conference was great where he said a few words about the superintendent who thought people were interested in what he had to say about it.

"Fergie also had a pop at Superintendent Mark Payne, responsible for managing crime response in Wolverhampton, who said Rooney would have been arrested and locked up had he sworn on his patch on a Saturday night.

"There is an issue in the modern world of a need to be noticed," said Fergie.

"There's a wee guy [police chief] sat down in the Midlands, probably never been recognised in his life, managed to elevate himself to whatever he is in the police force.

"Have you ever seen Birmingham on a Saturday night? Do the police there actually arrest people for swearing on a Saturday night? Dearie me. That's a good one isn't it?"

All this is working in United's favour anyway, siege mentality at the right time.

The Beast from the East
10 April 2011 10:18:01

 Meanwhile, the wait, for Torres, goes on.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

£50 million well spent. But its all loose change for Abramovich. If they don't win the Champoins league this year and he pulls the plug and sells up, the club is screwed financially

 


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SEMerc
10 April 2011 10:52:45

 Meanwhile, the wait, for Torres, goes on.

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

£50 million well spent. But its all loose change for Abramovich. If they don't win the Champoins league this year and he pulls the plug and sells up, the club is screwed financially

 

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Well I doubt they'll win the CL. Whether Abramovich chooses to sell up is another matter.

Bearing in mind what the bookies were saying at the beginning of the season you could put up a strong case for arguing that Ancelotti has been the biggest disappointment among the top five managers this season, closely followed by Mancini.

Brian Gaze
10 April 2011 21:28:58

Big changes afoot at Arsenal. Stanley Kroenke set to buy the club. Wenger to be sacked at the end of the season, Mourinho to take over?




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SEMerc
10 April 2011 22:01:43

Big changes afoot at Arsenal. Stanley Kroenke set to buy the club. Wenger to be sacked at the end of the season, Mourinho to take over?

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

No, Mourinho will be saving himself for a big club.

The Beast from the East
10 April 2011 22:48:14

Big changes afoot at Arsenal. Stanley Kroenke set to buy the club. Wenger to be sacked at the end of the season, Mourinho to take over?



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Coldest winter since 63 along the way as well?


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The Beast from the East
11 April 2011 20:27:57
citeh's champions league spot under threat. If they miss out again then Mancini is surely in for the chop. Unless he wins the FA cup perhaps
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SEMerc
11 April 2011 21:29:16

The Bindippers are coming into a worrying rich vein of form. I'd have been happy with a draw tonight tonight because I still think Citeh will implode.

Saint Snow
11 April 2011 23:21:23

The Bindippers are coming into a worrying rich vein of form. I'd have been happy with a draw tonight tonight because I still think Citeh will implode.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

That WBA shocker of ours I reckon will bite us on the arse.

Good to see the monkey off the Pikey's back, mind. Some excellent signs of him gelling well with Suarez. Hopefully Torres breaks his [even bigger] Chelsea duck tomorrow in spectacular style with a hat-trick.


Martin

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A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

Aneurin Bevan

SEMerc
11 April 2011 23:38:42

The Bindippers are coming into a worrying rich vein of form. I'd have been happy with a draw tonight tonight because I still think Citeh will implode.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

That WBA shocker of ours I reckon will bite us on the arse.

Good to see the monkey off the Pikey's back, mind. Some excellent signs of him gelling well with Suarez. Hopefully Torres breaks his [even bigger] Chelsea duck tomorrow in spectacular style with a hat-trick.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Yes, well we still have to play WBA. Mind you, if Tevez has done his hamstring chances are Citeh are pretty much done.

Assuming we can overhaul Citeh and get fourth, or, we can hang onto our players even if we don't, it's going to be a slugfest between six teams next season.

Saint Snow
12 April 2011 09:00:20

Assuming we can overhaul Citeh and get fourth, or, we can hang onto our players even if we don't, it's going to be a slugfest between six teams next season.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Nah, I reckon it'll be just 5 clubs slugging it out. Liverpool will be well clear at the top.

Or maybe not....

 

As for this season, when Hodgson left I don't think anyone with a braincell gave Liverpool any chance of a climbing far enough to grab a CL spot. I still think it's just too much to make up, but looking back at some results since Dalglish took over, we drew 1-1 at home with Wigan and lost 2-1 to both Blackpool and WBA - in all three games we scored first and couldn't hold onto a lead. If we'd conceded just one goal less in each of those games, we'd have been level with your lot (albeit having played a game more) and only one win behind Citeh for 4th.


Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

Aneurin Bevan

David M Porter
13 April 2011 09:02:07

Assuming we can overhaul Citeh and get fourth, or, we can hang onto our players even if we don't, it's going to be a slugfest between six teams next season.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Nah, I reckon it'll be just 5 clubs slugging it out. Liverpool will be well clear at the top.

Or maybe not....

 

As for this season, when Hodgson left I don't think anyone with a braincell gave Liverpool any chance of a climbing far enough to grab a CL spot. I still think it's just too much to make up, but looking back at some results since Dalglish took over, we drew 1-1 at home with Wigan and lost 2-1 to both Blackpool and WBA - in all three games we scored first and couldn't hold onto a lead. If we'd conceded just one goal less in each of those games, we'd have been level with your lot (albeit having played a game more) and only one win behind Citeh for 4th.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Saint, has Kenny Dalglish got the Liverpool job on a permanent basis, or only until the end of this season?


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Saint Snow
13 April 2011 09:39:28

Saint, has Kenny Dalglish got the Liverpool job on a permanent basis, or only until the end of this season?

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

The grapevine says the deal's done, but officially no decision has been made.

TBH, I can't see John Henry risking the wrath of the Kop by appointing anyone else. In fact, by giving Dalglish the job, he's in a no-lose situation as far as the fans go. I have my reservations over Dalglish (as I've said on here before), but I'd be happy to see him have a go, because he's certainly turned our seson around - and in the games against the higher-placed teams, he's got his tactics and the effort from the team spot on; it's just when playing cellar-dwellers that we've played crap

 


Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

Aneurin Bevan

SEMerc
17 April 2011 20:27:43

Well, well, Arsenal 1 - Liverpool 1.

Hmmm that gives Spurs three reasons to beat Arsenal at WHL on Wednesday (assuming Manure don't do something stupid by losingto Newcastle)

1- Draw level on points with Shiteh

2- Put Arsenal's faint hopes of the title to bed once and for all this season.

3- Ensure the Bindippers have too much ground to make up in their remaining 5 games.

If Spurs can't get up for this game with all of the above going on, they deserve to be collectivley shot.

NUT
17 April 2011 22:21:00
I still can't believe the finish to the game today. Having to rewatch it again and again on MOTD2. Unbelieveable
The Beast from the East
17 April 2011 22:28:15

Drawing three home games against "weak" opposition (including a severly depleted pool), Arsenal dont deserve to become Champions.

Ray Wilkins was really getting on my nerves stating the obvious and spouting cliches all the time. The way he drones on he sounds like he's been drugged up on sleeping pills. Bring back Andy Gray!

 


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President

SEMerc
18 April 2011 02:43:25

Bale wins PFA Player of the Year award.

No great surprise.

Always far better to get recognition from your peers (some of whom will have had practical experience of playing against you) than hollow ringing endorsements from either the media or armchair pundits.

I doubt the outcome would have been that different had the vote cut off point been later. Still, that's academic anyway.

future_is_orange
18 April 2011 06:06:07

Bale wins PFA Player of the Year award.

No great surprise.

Always far better to get recognition from your peers (some of whom will have had practical experience of playing against you) than hollow ringing endorsements from either the media or armchair pundits.

I doubt the outcome would have been that different had the vote cut off point been later. Still, that's academic anyway.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

IMO Bale has had a few fantastic games other than that he has been average or appeared as the invisible man. I do feel that there were one or two players especially non attacking players that would have deserved the award before Bale.

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