Torres could make his Chelsea debut against Liverpool this Sunday.

That should be very interesting.

Originally Posted by: Brummie Snowman 

I hope one of the Liverpool players sacrifices himself for a several match ban by going in on Torres, knee-high, from the side, in a Roy Keane stylee, snapping his cruciate.

Until Torres' comments today/last night I could just about forgive him for stitching Liverpool up at the 11th hour of the transfer window. He's ambitious, wants medals, Liverpool today isn't the club he joined, etc (and a £65k a week  pay rise can't have done much to put him off...).

However. However.... his comments about wanting to play at a top club have totally pee'd me and every other Liverpool fan off. Yes, we've had the heated debate on here about whether Liverpool are or aren't a big club and we'll always disagree, but it all depends on the criteria you use. What is in no doubt is that they have a million times more history and global prestige than Chelsea, who are only where they are due to a sugar-daddy putting them in a false financial position. They're a plastic club, a fake with no soul.

Back to Torres. To manufacture an exit from a club that's nurtured you, one whose fans have literally idolised you, one which has been through some pretty crappy times of late - and then to deliver a massive 'w*nker' hand signal to that club and those fans by saying what he did is downright insulting and disrespectful.

Even worse, he's not even had the nuts to issue a statement to thank Liverpool and say bye to the fans.

I thought Torres had some level of class as a man. How wrong was I?

Originally Posted by: Brummie Snowman 

I hope one of the Liverpool players sacrifices himself for a several match ban by going in on Torres, knee-high, from the side, in a Roy Keane stylee, snapping his cruciate.

Until Torres' comments today/last night I could just about forgive him for stitching Liverpool up at the 11th hour of the transfer window. He's ambitious, wants medals, Liverpool today isn't the club he joined, etc (and a £65k a week  pay rise can't have done much to put him off...).

However. However.... his comments about wanting to play at a top club have totally pee'd me and every other Liverpool fan off. Yes, we've had the heated debate on here about whether Liverpool are or aren't a big club and we'll always disagree, but it all depends on the criteria you use. What is in no doubt is that they have a million times more history and global prestige than Chelsea, who are only where they are due to a sugar-daddy putting them in a false financial position. They're a plastic club, a fake with no soul.

Back to Torres. To manufacture an exit from a club that's nurtured you, one whose fans have literally idolised you, one which has been through some pretty crappy times of late - and then to deliver a massive 'w*nker' hand signal to that club and those fans by saying what he did is downright insulting and disrespectful.

Even worse, he's not even had the nuts to issue a statement to thank Liverpool and say bye to the fans.

I thought Torres had some level of class as a man. How wrong was I?

Originally Posted by: Brummie Snowman 

Good luck to the lad why be happy stuck at a club going nowhere. Truth hurts sometimes.

Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 

Being calm and sensible, I'll point out that I've not criticised him just for wanting to go. I'd rather he'd have gone to a foreign club instead of one of our domestic rivals, and I'm not pleased with the timing (as it caused us to have to blow too much money on an unproven player), but I can actually understand him wanting to go to a club that hasn't been embroiled in the sort of turmoil that Liverpool have, and one that doesn't have a major rebuilding job on its hands just to squeeze back into the ECL.

From other fans I've spoken with and read the comments from, this is generally the majority view in Liverpool

My point, however, was that not only has he failed to issue a statement thanking Liverpool and the fans for the support he's had, he's made a really pithy disparaging dig at the club and portraying them as inferior to Chelsea.

That is what's got so many Liverpool backs up.

I'm sure you can understand that.

Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 

Very good away win for Chelsea who seem to be finding their form now 4-2 @Sunderland

Man U have a comfortable home win against Villa

Arsenal squeeze past Everton to win 2-1

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Very good away win for Chelsea who seem to be finding their form now 4-2 @Sunderland

Man U have a comfortable home win against Villa

Arsenal squeeze past Everton to win 2-1

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Big results last night for Man U, Chelski and Arsenal who all had tricky games. Chelsea also seem to be getting some momentum going again..is it too late ?

Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 

Yes, the 2 games between Man U & Chelsea will be vital

Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 

Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 

M City drop 2pts with an away draw at Birmingham

V Good away for Spurs ar Blackburn

Superb away win for the Hammers at Blackpool

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

From an Arsenal POV I have to hope Man U get beat when they visit the Emirates and hope Chelski take 4 pts from them

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

FWIW I think that at the Emirates it will probably be a draw and the Cheslea/ Man U fixtures will yield 4 pts to Man U and 1 to Chelsea........we'll see though  

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

FWIW I think that at the Emirates it will probably be a draw and the Cheslea/ Man U fixtures will yield 4 pts to Man U and 1 to Chelsea........we'll see though  

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Benitez says in an interview that one day he'd love to come back and manage Liverpool into the ground again

Don't call us, we'll call you, Rafa

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow