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Essan
12 April 2020 15:20:39

 

Seeing that empty motorway makes me think it's a miracle there's any food at all on supermarket shelves.

Originally Posted by: RobN 



It's Easter.  One of the 2 days a year the supermarkets aren't open 

Andy

Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl

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Look in the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed, look at the lies we've swallowed, and I don't want to hear no more

Essan
12 April 2020 15:23:42

 I really don’t think it’s the behaviour of the British public which is leading us to the worst death rate in Europe. 

I think we need to call that lie out as soon as it attempts to surface, as it will probably surface a lot. 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 







(And I don't think it's the fault of the Govt either.  I won't even blame all the rich kids going off sking at half term!   Sometimes, things just happen)

Andy

Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl

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Look in the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed, look at the lies we've swallowed, and I don't want to hear no more

Gavin D
12 April 2020 15:24:12
2,295 spare critical care beds
Gandalf The White
12 April 2020 15:26:14

 

Another lie. People were getting off planes from Singapore, Italy without any checks. The flights should have been stopped anyway

Even Maunder doesn't swallow the guff from Central Office anymore! But keep up the good work. The OBE is in the post

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Maybe my geography has become rusty all of a sudden but I don't recall Singapore or Italy being part of China

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Essan
12 April 2020 15:26:33

 

I have seen some horrific treatment of the elderly on the NHS. I've also experienced incompetence as well as forced into the private sector myself.  

 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 




I have experienced incompetence in every walk of life, from astrophysics to website owners to road sweepers.


It's the problem with letting humans do things.    


If there wasn't incompetence in the NHS then they must all be at the very least demigods.   They are not.  So, what do you expect?  

Andy

Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl

Weather & Earth Science News 

Look in the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed, look at the lies we've swallowed, and I don't want to hear no more

David M Porter
12 April 2020 15:29:18

 

Very true and I agree there must have been an awful lot of contagion being spread in them pre lockdown and imo even now there are far far too many people in any one store at any given time for social distancing to be of any protection.Yes we have to eat but at what price and what risks we are having to endure to do so. Iam doing more and more shopping at the small local shops which most times only have 1 other person in and often im the only one and I feel much safer!

Originally Posted by: springsunshine 

Where I live, the supermarkets that I know of introduced a queueing system at the same time as the country was put into lockdown three weeks ago and are allowing a very limited number of people in the shop at any one time. The small conveniense store whis is just a few minutes' walk from my house has the same system in place, as far as I know.

Because I have a long-term health condition, I am currently observing a 12-week self isolation period and have been advised to stay away from public places such as shops and other indoor places. My only ventures outside at the moment are for a half-hour walk plus taking my dad to and from the shops as necessary.

Lenzie, Glasgow

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Gavin D
12 April 2020 15:49:51

Daily slides

Transport usage is down or remains steady

Cases - 4,450 down from 4,624 yesterday. Pillar 2 is drive through testing for Key workers when added together gets the 5,288. 

Patients in hospital beds with Covid-19 has fallen by 0.8% nationally and increased by 5% in the North East and Yorkshire

Deaths - trending in line with Italy still

Caz
  • Caz
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12 April 2020 15:51:30

 

Very true and I agree there must have been an awful lot of contagion being spread in them pre lockdown and imo even now there are far far too many people in any one store at any given time for social distancing to be of any protection.Yes we have to eat but at what price and what risks we are having to endure to do so. Iam doing more and more shopping at the small local shops which most times only have 1 other person in and often im the only one and I feel much safer!

Originally Posted by: springsunshine 

Added to those panic buying were those, like me, who made more trips to the supermarket than normal the week before lockdown.  Not because I was stock piling but because shelves were empty and normal shopping was impossible.  I never did buy loo rolls!  Good job I already had plenty!  

Since lockdown our supermarkets have been pleasant to shop in, with trolley handles cleaned after every use, limited people in the shop at any one time and floor markers for queueing.  I find if we go early afternoon we don’t have to queue and the shelves are well stocked. 

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RobN
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12 April 2020 15:52:17



It's Easter.  One of the 2 days a year the supermarkets aren't open 

Originally Posted by: Essan 

With the stock management systems used these days the stuff they put on the shelves first thing tomorrow will have to have travelled - usually a long way - from somewhere. Just because some of the supermarkets aren't open today doesn't mean goods should already not be in transit.

Rob

In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.

Gandalf The White
12 April 2020 15:56:51
An extraordinary example of ignoring the rules

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-52261055 

200 miles from London to Devon for a fishing trip..... Obviously an essential journey. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

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David M Porter
12 April 2020 16:03:37

Added to those panic buying were those, like me, who made more trips to the supermarket than normal the week before lockdown.  Not because I was stock piling but because shelves were empty and normal shopping was impossible.  I never did buy loo rolls!  Good job I already had plenty!  

Since lockdown our supermarkets have been pleasant to shop in, with trolley handles cleaned after every use, limited people in the shop at any one time and floor markers for queueing.  I find if we go early afternoon we don’t have to queue and the shelves are well stocked. 

Originally Posted by: Caz 

Sounds as though the supermarkets in your area are doing broadly the same as those in my neck of the woods are doing, Caz.

Lenzie, Glasgow

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fairweather
12 April 2020 16:04:16

 

Surely they could have waited a minute or two and got it totally empty?

I have to admit I have just got back from breaking the rules: put my 2-year-old in the car and went out for a 10-minute drive around the local streets which was enough to get him to sleep. Peace reigns at last. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Why does that break the rules? Both in total isolation, within a couple of km of your home and in my book (going back 40 years) an essential journey. The things we used to do to get a two year old to sleep you wouldn't believe!

S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
12 April 2020 16:08:24




I have experienced incompetence in every walk of life, from astrophysics to website owners to road sweepers.


It's the problem with letting humans do things.    


If there wasn't incompetence in the NHS then they must all be at the very least demigods.   They are not.  So, what do you expect?  

Originally Posted by: Essan 

Exactly the same as I expect in those other walks of life. Shortcomings to be highlighted, the desire to do the best job you can and help and support to achieve it.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
12 April 2020 16:10:56

Added to those panic buying were those, like me, who made more trips to the supermarket than normal the week before lockdown.  Not because I was stock piling but because shelves were empty and normal shopping was impossible.  I never did buy loo rolls!  Good job I already had plenty!  

Since lockdown our supermarkets have been pleasant to shop in, with trolley handles cleaned after every use, limited people in the shop at any one time and floor markers for queueing.  I find if we go early afternoon we don’t have to queue and the shelves are well stocked. 

Originally Posted by: Caz 

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Gavin D
12 April 2020 16:11:01

Daily breakdown of the data from PHE

UK data 

  • Daily confirmed Cases -  5,288 (Includes 838 key workers)

  • Total UK deaths - 10,612

English data

Top 10 Local Authorities with the highest confirmed cases

  1. Birmingham: 1,774

  2. Hampshire: 1,573

  3. Kent: 1,490

  4. Lancashire: 1,453

  5. Essex: 1,418

  6. Hertfordshire: 1,344

  7. Surrey: 1,334

  8. Sheffield: 1,201

  9. Cumbria: 1,165

  10. Brent: 987

Local Authorities with the fewest confirmed cases

  • Rutland: 9 - No change

  • Isle of Wight: 53

  • North East Lincolnshire: 64 - No change

  • Hartlepool: 69

  • Torbay: 95

  • North Lincolnshire: 95

  • Herefordshire, County of: 98

  • Peterborough: 101 - No change

  • Bracknell Forest: 103 - No change

  • North Somerset: 112 - No change

Regional data

  • London - 17,479 (+758)   

  • Midlands - 10,819 (+451) 

  • North West - 9,452 (+848) 

  • North East and Yorkshire - 8,691 (+510) 

  • South East - 8,422 (+550) 

  • East of England - 5,651 (+349)

  • South West - 3,193 (+230) 

All changes with yesterday. Data based up to 9am today for new cases and up to 5pm yesterday for new confirmed coronavirus deaths. Not all deaths occurred in the 24hr period

Saint Snow
12 April 2020 16:12:33

 

Perhaps a good enough example of why to only go by official reports?

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

 

Effective translation: never believe a word the Daily Heil says, ever.

Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

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Gavin D
12 April 2020 16:12:48
Italy have reported 4,092 new cases and 431 new deaths
fairweather
12 April 2020 16:14:30

Moscow seems to have not really got its act together
Originally Posted by: four 

">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211727/Dozens-ambulances-filled-suspected-coronavirus-patients-wait-hours-outside-Moscow-hospitals.html

Putin probably getting advice from his old mate Trump?

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Caz
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12 April 2020 16:16:31

I have experienced incompetence in every walk of life, from astrophysics to website owners to road sweepers.

It's the problem with letting humans do things.    

If there wasn't incompetence in the NHS then they must all be at the very least demigods.   They are not.  So, what do you expect?  

Originally Posted by: Essan 

Well said!  I absolutely agree!  

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David M Porter
12 April 2020 16:20:10

Italy have reported 4,092 new cases and 431 new deaths

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

In respect of deaths, that is a rather lower figure than Italy was reporting each day not so long ago.

Hopefully they are now turning the corner, slowly but surely.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"A body of men holding themselves accountable to nobody ought not to be trusted by anybody." – Thomas Paine

Saint Snow
12 April 2020 16:21:31

An extraordinary example of ignoring the rules

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-52261055

200 miles from London to Devon for a fishing trip..... Obviously an essential journey. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

 

Agree with the police action here.

But why haven't they been going round to all the second home owners who have gone to Devon, Cornwall, Wales, Dorset, etc and 'fined and escorted home' all the thousands having a nice Easter jolly?

And, of course, Bozo's own father who's ignored instructions and taken himself off to his Devon country estate. 

Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

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fairweather
12 April 2020 16:23:45

 

Whatever your views might be, I think this is a nice kind post. Thank you.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

By the way that was the Royal "your" not you personally 

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Gavin D
12 April 2020 16:24:53

A further 130 patients have died in London. The deaths were between March 27th and April 11th they were all announced today.

  • Imperial College Healthcare Trust - 29 deaths (between April 6 and April 11)

  • Royal Free London NHS Trust - 16 deaths (between March 27 and April 11)

  • St George's University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust- 12 deaths (between April 8 and April 11)

  • Barts Health NHS Trust - 10 deaths (occurring on April 9 and April 11)

  • North Middlesex University Hospital NHS Trust - 10 deaths (between April 3 and April 10)

  • London North West University Healthcare Trust - 9 deaths (between April 8 and April 11)

  • Croydon Health Services NHS Trust - 7 deaths (between April 7 and April 10)

  • Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Trust - 7 deaths (between April 10 and April 11)

  • Whittington Health NHS Trust - 6 deaths (between March 31 and April 10)

  • Epsom and St Helier University Hospitals NHS Trust - 4 deaths (between March 29 and April 10)

  • The Hillingdon Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - 4 deaths (between April 8 and April 10)

  • Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust - 3 deaths (between April 1 and April 11)

  • King's College Hospital NHS Foundation Trust- 3 deaths (April 8 and April 9)

  • Chelsea and Westminster Hospital NHS Foundation Trust - 2 deaths (April 9 and April 10)

  • Homerton University Hospital Foundation Trust - 2 deaths(occurring on April 10)

  • Kingston Hospital NHS Foundation Hospital - 2 deaths (occurred on April 10)

  • University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust - 1 death (April 10)

  • Barking, Havering and Redbridge University Hospitals NHS Trust - 1 death (April 7)

  • Royal Brompton and Harefield NHS Foundation Trust - 1 death (April 9th)

  • Central and North West London Foundation Trust - 1 death (April 11)

Brian Gaze
12 April 2020 16:28:20

Daily slides

Transport usage is down or remains steady

Cases - 4,450 down from 4,624 yesterday. Pillar 2 is drive through testing for Key workers when added together gets the 5,288. 

Patients in hospital beds with Covid-19 has fallen by 0.8% nationally and increased by 5% in the North East and Yorkshire

Deaths - trending in line with Italy still

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

The fall in hospital bed admissions sounds positive assuming all the data was included - I think it was.

Brian Gaze

Berkhamsted

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