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Gandalf The White
21 March 2020 09:00:54

Bloody hell, Moomin. That is terrible. I really hope your friend pulls through this.

Originally Posted by: Justin W 

Absolutely. Shocking to hear that someone fit and healthy has been hit so badly that they’re in a coma.

Fingers crossed he gets through it.


Location: South Cambridgeshire

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Lionel Hutz
21 March 2020 09:02:58

Moomin I am terribly sorry to hear that. I hope he pulls through.

Lionel, I think your holiday is unlikely to go ahead. I think that things will take a lot longer to get back to normal. While things will peak here an in other places in next 60 days. I think there is going to be a lot of nerves throughout the world.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

I fear that you're right. Obviously, the holiday in itself doesn't matter a damn. The point is that if my holiday doesn't go ahead, that means that tourism is out the window for pretty much the world. That in itself eliminates so many livelihoods.

 


Lionel Hutz

Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland

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Gandalf The White
21 March 2020 09:05:19

 

Yes and I am coming around to that view too. Which, quite frankly, scares me. 

Then again, Moomin's post puts things in perspective. I hope your friend pulls through, Moomin.

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 

I’m afraid I agree: I’d say the chances are close to zero. Countries will still be trying to contain this and I doubt they’ll want foreign tourists who might bring Covid-19 with them. Then of course there’s the issue of how much will still be shut down.

I’m beginning to think that the end of the tunnel is a year away, although hopefully some controls will be eased down over time. For me it’s next autumn/winter in the northern hemisphere that’s the next big risk.


Location: South Cambridgeshire

130 metres ASL

52.0N 0.1E



speckledjim
21 March 2020 09:05:24

 

To be honest, I had managed to convince myself that the lockdown would bring results and that we might be getting back to normal in a few weeks time. While I still think that the lockdown will transform the situation, I now fear that normal will be a lot slower coming back. My milestone will be whether I can take my holiday in Italy in July. It's a milestone for me not just for selfish reasons. If it's safe to holiday in Italy then the world is back to normal. The world economy will remain banjaxed unless tourism can get back up and running. Does anyone believe that my family holiday in Italy will go ahead?

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 

I am due to go to Puglia in July but I doubt v much if it will happen. I’ve already told the kids that it is v unlikely


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Ulric
21 March 2020 09:06:17
Interesting Twitter follow.

https://twitter.com/Acosta_Kike_ 


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Ulric
21 March 2020 09:07:23

I’m beginning to think that the end of the tunnel is a year away, although hopefully some controls will be eased down over time. For me it’s next autumn/winter in the northern hemisphere that’s the next big risk.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

I think that is realistic.


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RobN
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21 March 2020 09:11:03

 

I fear that you're right. Obviously, the holiday in itself doesn't matter a damn. The point is that if my holiday doesn't go ahead, that means that tourism is out the window for pretty much the world. That in itself eliminates so many livelihoods.

 

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 

For the countries where tourism is a very significant proportion of the economy the situation is even more dire than ours.


Rob

In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.

warrenb
21 March 2020 09:12:11

I don’t know what game the BBC are playing here,be it Tim Martin yesterday and now this piece on the modelling (which just happens to come the day after a major lockdown), but if they have a grudge against HMG this is not the time to run with it. Twitter is already full of ‘why are we locked down, they have the numbers wrong’ from today’s piece. I have read it and to be frank it is an opinion piece at most,but to be perfectly honest the only thing people will get from it is the top line of ‘are the numbers right’. BBC stop playing games, this not a game (look at moomins post).


Gavin D
21 March 2020 09:19:33
All Sainsbury's supermarkets will be opening from 8am to 8pm as of Monday - Sainsbury's locals and petrol stations will continue to open as normal.

Monday, Wednesday and Friday all supermarkets will be opening between 8am and 9am for the elderly, disabled, vulnerable, NHS workers and social care workers.

The Beast from the East
21 March 2020 09:22:45

 

This is terrifying that he is young and no underlying conditions.  Could the virus be mutating to affect the young?

Originally Posted by: John p 

No, he is just one of the unlucky ones

The SK situation does show that containment is just that. Its slows it down but you cant remain locked down for long periods until the vaccine is ready

We either lock down for a year or let it rip.

Locking down for a year would probably kill many more than the virus itself in terms of shattered lived and mental breakdown

Govt paying 80% of wages is still not enough to cover the cost of living and what about the self employed, and those on zero hours will only get paid for the limited hours they work. Its not enough Richie Rich

 

 

 


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westv
21 March 2020 09:24:17
I'm curious to know what the supermarkets define as "vulnerable" and how and if they will check jt.
At least it will be mild!
Gooner
21 March 2020 09:24:42

This whole horrific nightmare that is unfolding has become very real for me today.

I learned this  morning that a very close friend of mine has contracted Covid19 while working in Germany last week.

He developed symptoms earlier this week and has deteriorated rapidly and is now in intensive care in a coma and a very critical condition.

This guy is a fantastic man, newly married, and he is 35 with no underlying health conditions that I am aware of.

This is REAL guys. This is just the start. I am very very upset today. Until I heard this news this morning, I thought, this won't affect me. I thought, this is something that afflicts the elderly and infirm. 

Absolutely not. My friend was fit and healthy and young. He is now fighting for his life, and the next 24 hours is critical. I am praying for him, I feel so helpless. His wife cannot visit him, today is his birthday.

Please, everyone on TWO, pray for my friend. Positive thoughts are all I have right now. I pray that my friend pulls through.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Really really sorry mate 


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Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



The Beast from the East
21 March 2020 09:26:59

 

For the countries where tourism is a very significant proportion of the economy the situation is even more dire than ours.

Originally Posted by: RobN 

And for poorer countries who cant afford to print money to bail out, its not sustainable. We would have a mass collapse of modern civilisation and return to bartering and highwayman robbing people

All for a virus that will only kill 1% of the population anyway. Madness

 

 


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Gooner
21 March 2020 09:27:14

I'm a bit confused , not hard I know but I have just heard on the radio that Sainsburys will have an hour for the elderly between 08:00 and 09:00 M W F but aren't the elderly isolating?? 

 

Also just been to get fuel and a bus FULL of people on going into town , why the hell aren't bus companies limiting the amount of people they are carrying ?

 

Bizarre 


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Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

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The Beast from the East
21 March 2020 09:28:06

I'm curious to know what the supermarkets define as "vulnerable" and how and if they will check jt.

Originally Posted by: westv 

And will relatives be allowed to accompany these old people? 


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President

The Beast from the East
21 March 2020 09:29:29

 

Also just been to get fuel and a bus FULL of people on going into town , why the hell aren't bus companies limiting the amount of people they are carrying ?

 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

How else are people supposed to get to work or buy food?

Lay on more buses if you want to avoid overcrowding


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President

Gooner
21 March 2020 09:31:36

 

How else are people supposed to get to work or buy food?

Lay on more buses if you want to avoid overcrowding

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Its the bus companies I blame ……..but to answer your question BLOODY WALK in the fresh air , town at the furthest point is 30 mins away 

Laying on more buses increases cost , aint going to happen , just do more pickups and allow less people on 


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Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



SJV
21 March 2020 09:33:35
Really sorry to hear your friend is struggling, Moomin. To hear he was apparently fit and healthy before contracting the virus makes it all the more frightening. I sincerely hope he pulls through.
doctormog
21 March 2020 09:37:39

 

Its the bus companies I blame ……..but to answer your question BLOODY WALK in the fresh air , town at the furthest point is 30 mins away 

Laying on more buses increases cost , aint going to happen , just do more pickups and allow less people on 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

I am sure that for most young fit people a 30 minute walk is not a big deal. Many bus users don’t fall into that category.


Ulric
21 March 2020 09:37:41

 

For the countries where tourism is a very significant proportion of the economy the situation is even more dire than ours.

Originally Posted by: RobN 

There are almost no countries left which could be self sufficient. The advanced western economies are ALL dependent on their neighbours and cross border logistics. The dependencies are diverse and critical. Tourism is an early and obvious problem but what happens when machine parts, raw materials and fuel supplies get affected by supply chain disruption?

Resilience is necessary but we've effectively engineered it out of modern commerce.

The UK was already headed for painful isolation but, on it's own. Now I guess, everyone is in the same boat.


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Heavy Weather 2013
21 March 2020 09:38:10
I see Beast has turned into the Tim Martin of TWO
Mark

Beckton, E London

Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

westv
21 March 2020 09:39:01
Where I am they are reducing bus services.
At least it will be mild!
chelseagirl
21 March 2020 09:39:30

I'm curious to know what the supermarkets define as "vulnerable" and how and if they will check jt.

Originally Posted by: westv 

Think it will be groups already mentioned. I am in one of those groups, but it is not a visible vulnerability so where does that leave people like me? All well and good making stores open purely for these groups, but surely that is against advice to keep away from others? We are not self distancing like Spain is in their supermarkets. 


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Gooner
21 March 2020 09:40:08

 

I am sure that for most young fit people a 30 minute walk is not a big deal. Many bus users don’t fall into that category.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Still does not alter the fact the bus company have a duty of care - or doesn't social gathering count on a bus or is there a time limit that social gathering covers??????????

And they are actually genuine questions 

Oh and I should add there are many young fit LAZY people on buses also 


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Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



Chidog
21 March 2020 09:43:04

 

Still does not alter the fact the bus company have a duty of care - or doesn't social gathering count on a bus or is there a time limit that social gathering covers??????????

And they are actually genuine questions 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

1) surely it counts

2) longer is worse

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