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warrenb
11 March 2020 17:00:54
It is utterly irresponsible that we are allowing 3000 fans from a Covid hotspot to arrive for a game in a stadium at the same time that the originating city is banning such events because of spread. Who in the hell is letting that happen. It is too late now as the damage is done as these people are already here, but it is utter madness.
Brian Gaze
11 March 2020 17:02:37
Around here an increasing number of parents are voting with their feet and keeping their kids at home. If Boris doesn't close schools soon parents will do it for him. Better to look in control and get on with it.
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Brian Gaze
11 March 2020 17:03:10

It is utterly irresponsible that we are allowing 3000 fans from a Covid hotspot to arrive for a game in a stadium at the same time that the originating city is banning such events because of spread. Who in the hell is letting that happen. It is too late now as the damage is done as these people are already here, but it is utter madness.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 

It is utterly stupid. 


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Caz
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11 March 2020 17:03:41

That's quite right, Caz. We seldom have a "whole" picture of anything. We do not usually sample a "whole population", but make a statistical projection from an appropriate and representative data sample. It's the gathering of that sample that is underway and the reason we are sampling is to achieve that understanding - otherwise why would we bother? As you say, if you are going to get sick, you'll get sick, whether or not we test you. Testing tells us how far and where the virus has spread. Like any data, this will have it's limitations, but any reasonable data is better than none.

I can't guess which way Boris is going to jump. Will he put the lid on us this week or try to stall until next week? Every parent must be cursing!

Roger

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

I’m guessing he won’t change much yet.  I think they’ll have a trigger and won’t do anything drastic until if/when that is reached. Then they’ll roll out the measures quickly.  We’re still learning from other countries and I reckon they’re hoping to hold back the spread here until the Easter holidays. 


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Gavin D
11 March 2020 17:07:37
Breaking: The death toll in the northern Italian region of Lombardy has risen to 617 an increase of 149 in 24 hours
Gandalf The White
11 March 2020 17:08:50

 

Will you join my in a few moments of quiet reflection for the parents who have been asked to work at home and are about to learn their offspring will be joining them shortly....

 

 

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

 

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Caz
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11 March 2020 17:11:48

Not that it really changes anything.

Originally Posted by: westv 

  Actually it does.  It changes the name!  I think it’s short for ‘panic, it’s an epidemic’


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Justin W
11 March 2020 17:12:15

Which countries can the director general of the WHO be talking about?

 

'Lack of resolve' in some countries, says WHO

Tedros says it is a “crisis that affects every sector”. The WHO director-general says:

This is everybody’s business.

He says looking at the number of cases reported and number of countries affected “doesn’t tell the full story”.

All countries can still change the course of this pandemic.

Swift action can prevent larger clusters and community transmission and even if they fail to do so “they can turn the tide”.

The challenge is not whether countries can change the course of the virus but whether they will, Tedros says.

He says come countries are struggling with a lack of capacity but says some are struggling with a lack of resolve.

 


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gavin D
11 March 2020 17:12:17
New cases in the Lombardy region have increased by 1,489 in 24 hours alongside the 149 new deaths
Gavin D
11 March 2020 17:17:20
Breaking: Italy reports 2,313 new cases and 196 new deaths. An additional 1,045 have recovered +41 on yesterday
Gandalf The White
11 March 2020 17:17:44

Which countries can the director general of the WHO be talking about?

 

'Lack of resolve' in some countries, says WHO

Tedros says it is a “crisis that affects every sector”. The WHO director-general says:

This is everybody’s business.

He says looking at the number of cases reported and number of countries affected “doesn’t tell the full story”.

All countries can still change the course of this pandemic.

Swift action can prevent larger clusters and community transmission and even if they fail to do so “they can turn the tide”.

The challenge is not whether countries can change the course of the virus but whether they will, Tedros says.

He says come countries are struggling with a lack of capacity but says some are struggling with a lack of resolve.

 

Originally Posted by: Justin W 

Answers on a post card but I'll suggest the USA for starters plus quite a few European countries that have been slow to gear up - the latest figures from Italy are not good. 

I don't think the UK is doing too badly so far.  As he says, Governments had to "strike a fine balance between protecting health, minimising disruption and respecting human life".  That's the point I've been making consistently for several weeks.


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chelseagirl
11 March 2020 17:18:22

 

 

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Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

You missed wine off the list 


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Gandalf The White
11 March 2020 17:19:06

Breaking: Italy reports 2,313 new cases and 196 new deaths. An additional 1,045 have recovered +41 on yesterday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

 

Those selfish idiots fleeing the quarantine zone in the north won't be helping.


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Gandalf The White
11 March 2020 17:20:09

 

You missed wine off the list 

Originally Posted by: chelseagirl 

It was implicit in the word 'fridge'.....


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Brian Gaze
11 March 2020 17:20:57
Countries may soon consider letting it rip. They may decide the "winners" will be those who get back on their feet first. For example, Russia could seek advantage and vice versa.
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Justin W
11 March 2020 17:22:12
The Italian figures are grim ... no getting around the fact. I sincerely hope that HMG's strategy works because if we get anything like those figures here, hospitals really will be overwhelmed in short order.
Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Ally Pally Snowman
11 March 2020 17:23:41

Breaking: Italy reports 2,313 new cases and 196 new deaths. An additional 1,045 have recovered +41 on yesterday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

 

That's up there with the worst days of Hubei.

 


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chelseagirl
11 March 2020 17:27:43

 

It was implicit in the word 'fridge'.....

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

Not mine. All red here!


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David M Porter
11 March 2020 17:27:56

 

 

It would be very useful if they could also advise the medical states of those infected. Nothing too specific, just along the lines of:

1) Recovered

2) Mild symptoms; resting at home

3) Moderate symptoms; resting at home

4) Severe symptoms; being treated at home

5) Severe symptoms; being treated in hospital

6) In hospital ICU

 

I think it would help to quell the hysteria and panic that's building.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Agree entirely, Saint.


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Gavin D
11 March 2020 17:30:01
Israel have banned all gatherings that have more than 100 people
Heavy Weather 2013
11 March 2020 17:32:04
Those Italy’s figures really are grim.

The issue now is the Governement can say what they like, but people will be looking at the numbers from Italy and saying the government is not doing enough.


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Brian Gaze
11 March 2020 17:33:32

Those Italy’s figures really are grim.

The issue now is the Governement can say what they like, but people will be looking at the numbers from Italy and saying the government is not doing enough.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Absolutely. That's why the government must lead and not be led. People around here are starting to make their own decisions.


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warrenb
11 March 2020 17:34:08

People will start to react themselves. Companies will react themselves (I suspect this is what HMG is waiting for). Panic buying followed by everybody just shutting themselves away. The lack of guidance from HMG on this is frightening. Are we heading toward a situation where HMG are so busy looking at the modelling that can't look out the window. Because that is what people will start to think.


John p
11 March 2020 17:39:17

People will start to react themselves. Companies will react themselves (I suspect this is what HMG is waiting for). Panic buying followed by everybody just shutting themselves away. The lack of guidance from HMG on this is frightening. Are we heading toward a situation where HMG are so busy looking at the modelling that can't look out the window. Because that is what people will start to think.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 

Extensive reliance on modelling vs reality has got Cummings written all over it I'm afraid to say.


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speckledjim
11 March 2020 17:39:19

Those Italy’s figures really are grim.

The issue now is the Governement can say what they like, but people will be looking at the numbers from Italy and saying the government is not doing enough.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

 

600 of today's figures are for yesterday - they did not have complete details. So, that's approx 1500 for yesterday and 1700 for today. Still grim


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