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Chiltern Blizzard
01 February 2019 15:50:08

Even the Scillies has snow last Feb/March so it’s not necessarily there.  Based on posts on here, the worst places would appear to be:

the Wirral, Portsmouth, Worthing, Central London, Poole and (bizarrely given it’s relatively inland, eastern, northern location that’s a few 100 feet asl) Melton Mowbray.... but where is the very worst place to be?  Is there anywhere obvious that’s been missed?  The Mull of Galloway or the Llyn Pennisula perhaps? 


Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
picturesareme
01 February 2019 15:55:12
Portsmouth & Southsea
Chiltern Blizzard
01 February 2019 15:59:52

Portsmouth & Southsea

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

How much snow has you had over past 20-30 years (or however long you’ve lived there?


Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
Rob K
01 February 2019 16:00:38

The official Met Office maps would suggest Anglesey, most low-lying Irish Sea and Bristol Channel coasts, lowland Devon and Cornwall, coasts close to the Solent, and central London.

 

 

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/gallery/mohippo/images/migrated-image/i/snowlying_average_1981-2010_171.jpg

 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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aceandy79
01 February 2019 16:01:08
Central south coast basically. In the rain shadow from Isle of Wight, and Winchester to the North. Don't get much from Easterlies although December 2010 was a big exception to that rule. Can count the number of significant snowfalls since I moved here in 1988 on one hand.
Andy

Hedge End, Hampshire, 26m asl

Brian Gaze
01 February 2019 16:03:48
Sunderland is probably one of the worst locations in the north.
Brian Gaze

Berkhamsted

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Solar Cycles
01 February 2019 16:05:41
IMBY...... Joking aside the Fylde coast and Preston rarely see snow any winter.
Saint Snow
01 February 2019 16:06:51

Aberdeen, if a certain poster is to be believed.

 


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Saint Snow
01 February 2019 16:07:53

Sunderland is probably one of the worst locations in the north.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

 

Yes, but what about for snow?

 

 


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Weathermac
01 February 2019 16:16:03
Coventry and warwickshire the snow got to within 15 miles of coventry then pivoted away se .

Not even a single flake here .

Darren S
01 February 2019 16:16:56

I think a lot of the snow reports are subjective... there are some people here who don't know what snow looks like, and some who have very strangely calibrated rulers!

The Isles of Scilly is the obvious and only answer to this question.


Darren

Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)

South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:

2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm

Essan
01 February 2019 16:21:15

Sunderland is probably one of the worst locations in the north.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Yes, but what about for snow?

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 




Andy

Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl

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Essan
01 February 2019 16:25:52

The official Met Office maps would suggest Anglesey, most low-lying Irish Sea and Bristol Channel coasts, lowland Devon and Cornwall, coasts close to the Solent, and central London.

 

 

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/gallery/mohippo/images/migrated-image/i/snowlying_average_1981-2010_171.jpg

 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



Would be interesting to see how that average has changed (down) since 2010!  


Andy

Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl

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Surrey John
01 February 2019 16:50:54

Worst must be coastal towns between Christchurch and Lymington (if we exclude offshore islands)

Anything Westerly-Northerly-Easterly has already passed over higher land
The hills on Isle of Wight protect it from South Easterly

Anything from South is straight off English channel (sea never usually below 8c there)

Lived first 22 years of my life there and think there was only ever 4 or 5 snowfalls


Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire

35m ASL

cultman1
01 February 2019 16:57:24
west London near The River Thames. two years in a row we missed out on snow yet over in Clapham they had a dumping.
Chiltern Blizzard
01 February 2019 16:59:43



Would be interesting to see how that average has changed (down) since 2010!  

Originally Posted by: Essan 

Indeed, the 1980s decade would probably give 70-80% of the contribution to that chart!  If we hadn’t had the period from 2008, more like 90%!  Overall, the 2010s have been snowier than the previous two decades though. 


Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
picturesareme
01 February 2019 17:03:38

 

How much snow has you had over past 20-30 years (or however long you’ve lived there?

Originally Posted by: Chiltern Blizzard 

Since 1991 (as far back as I can remember) only 3 occasion where a covering has lasted more than 24 hours - 2009 - 5 days, 2010 - 1.5days, 2018 - 2 days (ish).  Even back in the bitter cold winters of the mid 90's snow amounts were negligible. 

What snow that falls is normally slushy type stuff that lays as ice rather then crunch snow. 

Southsea is even worse.. wvwn back in 2010 when 5 inches fell over north Portsmouth southsea it lay around 5cm deep.

picturesareme
01 February 2019 17:06:28

Worst must be coastal towns between Christchurch and Lymington (if we exclude offshore islands)

Anything Westerly-Northerly-Easterly has already passed over higher land
The hills on Isle of Wight protect it from South Easterly

Anything from South is straight off English channel (sea never usually below 8c there)

Lived first 22 years of my life there and think there was only ever 4 or 5 snowfalls

Originally Posted by: Surrey John 

The IOW see' s more then Portsmouth I'd have thought. I've seen off shore snow flurries in channel during E/NE spells move ove the IOW.

doctormog
01 February 2019 17:17:14

Aberdeen, if a certain poster is to be believed.

 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

To be fair the lack of snow here over the last 5 years or so is remarkable (and annoying). It’s not the worst place for snow but we have done very poorly in recent years compared with what people would suspect. Many parts further north, south and west have done significantly better in a number of occasions, “The Beast” being a prime example.


Rob K
01 February 2019 17:18:58

 

I would have thought it would be higher for 2010-



Would be interesting to see how that average has changed (down) since 2010!  

Originally Posted by: Essan 

 

I would have thought it would be higher for most places for the past decade than it would for the 30 years before that. That 30-year period includes the dismal snow-desert years from the late 1980s to the mid-2000s.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Tim A
01 February 2019 17:28:48
You would imagine the Bristol area has upped its average snow days in recent times compared to the Met Office 81-10 average map.
Tim

NW Leeds

187m asl

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Brian Gaze
01 February 2019 18:04:27

I think a lot of the snow reports are subjective... there are some people here who don't know what snow looks like, and some who have very strangely calibrated rulers!

The Isles of Scilly is the obvious and only answer to this question.

Originally Posted by: Darren S 

Indeed. My snow depth formula for a number of people (not just on here) is:

Snow depth = (reported depth *0.5) / 2


Brian Gaze

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howham
01 February 2019 18:05:30

 

To be fair the lack of snow here over the last 5 years or so is remarkable (and annoying). It’s not the worst place for snow but we have done very poorly in recent years compared with what people would suspect. Many parts further north, south and west have done significantly better in a number of occasions, “The Beast” being a prime example.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Even 20 miles away has done a lot better than Aberdeen city.    In all honesty though, we have been relatively snow starved compared to some previous years.  I think we were well spoiled by March 2006, Winter 2009/10, Nov/Dec 2010 though.

richardabdn
01 February 2019 18:52:39

There can be no doubt that lowland NE Scotland has seen the greatest reduction in snowfall compared to the climatolgical averages.

I posted the differences between 2005-2013 which had a normal mix of winters and the absolute horror that has unfolded since winter 13/14 and here they are again updated to include this weeks snow. However this has only served to further reduce the average snow depth because it has been so pitiful 

                                                     05/06-12/13   13/14-18/19

Average days snow lying per winter :    21.6                10.2

Average depth per snow lying day:       8.9cm               2.8cm

Average days snowlying 5cm +:           12.8                   2.5                 

Average days snow lying 10cm+:          7.6                    0

 

 


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richardabdn
01 February 2019 19:02:17

 

Indeed, the 1980s decade would probably give 70-80% of the contribution to that chart!  If we hadn’t had the period from 2008, more like 90%!  Overall, the 2010s have been snowier than the previous two decades though. 

Originally Posted by: Chiltern Blizzard 

Certainly wouldn't be the case here. I've only been recording snow lying days since 2004 but I've added a couple of days to the Dyce totals for 1981-2003, as it's lower altitude, to get these rough averages:

1981-90: 21 days

1991-2000: 15 days

2001-10: 22.5 days

2011-18: 12 days

 


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