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golfingmad
01 August 2018 19:36:41

 

I went for 18.5C for July but given how things have turned out - I am not disappointed.

I know perhaps we're not supposed to mention them - But I've gone for 18.3C for August - it would be nice to get that as it would put this summer in as number one.

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

Very brave!

I don't think we will beat 1976 overall, but I think there's a very good chance of being quite high up in the Top Five CET summers, and my guess has reflected that


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01 August 2018 19:54:42

 

I went for 18.5C for July but given how things have turned out - I am not disappointed.

I know perhaps we're not supposed to mention them - But I've gone for 18.3C for August - it would be nice to get that as it would put this summer in as number one.

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

You went for the same as me in July but you haven’t in August and I’m really happy to have gone too low!  I truly hope you’re right though, as I’d like to see us beat 1976.  This month, I’m a whimp!  


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01 August 2018 20:01:17

Very brave!

I don't think we will beat 1976 overall, but I think there's a very good chance of being quite high up in the Top Five CET summers, and my guess has reflected that

Originally Posted by: golfingmad 

Me too!   

By my calculations, 17.6 for August will get 2018 a second placed summer!  Although I didn’t actually work that out until after I’d submitted my guess and I now wish I’d had just a tiny bit more faith!  No clues there then!  


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golfingmad
01 August 2018 20:16:49

Now that we have the CET figure for July, I thought I'd take a look at where summer 2018 now stands relative to the 'Top Five' summers in the CET summer series:

                    June&July                 August          Summer JJA

1) 1976         17.85                       17.6             17.77

2) 1826         17.6                         17.6            17.60

3) 1995         16.45                       19.2             17.37

4) 2003         16.85                       18.3             17.33

5) 2006         17.8                         16.1             17.23

6) 2018         17.6                          ???               ???

So from these figures it can be seen that:

1) 2018 so far is in a very strong position, being ahead of 1995 and 2003, but still behind 1976 and 2006, and the same as 1826.

2) To pass the summer of 1976 an August figure of at least 18.2C would be required (16.1+19.1+18.2=53.4/3=17.80).

3) To get into fifth position and displace 2006, August would only need to be at least 16.7C (16.1+19.1+16.7=51.9/3=17.30). Even allowing for the current variable output, this should well be possible!

Either way it would take a relatively poor August now to keep the summer of 2018 out of the Top Five in the CET summer series.

 


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02 August 2018 03:48:37

Now that we have the CET figure for July, I thought I'd take a look at where summer 2018 now stands relative to the 'Top Five' summers in the CET summer series:

                    June&July                 August          Summer JJA

1) 1976         17.85                       17.6             17.77

2) 1826         17.6                         17.6            17.60

3) 1995         16.45                       19.2             17.37

4) 2003         16.85                       18.3             17.33

5) 2006         17.8                         16.1             17.23

6) 2018         17.6                          ???               ???

So from these figures it can be seen that:

1) 2018 so far is in a very strong position, being ahead of 1995 and 2003, but still behind 1976 and 2006, and the same as 1826.

2) To pass the summer of 1976 an August figure of at least 18.2C would be required (16.1+19.1+18.2=53.4/3=17.80).

3) To get into fifth position and displace 2006, August would only need to be at least 16.7C (16.1+19.1+16.7=51.9/3=17.30). Even allowing for the current variable output, this should well be possible!

Either way it would take a relatively poor August now to keep the summer of 2018 out of the Top Five in the CET summer series.

Originally Posted by: golfingmad 

 That’s useful info for reference and sound reasoning!

The long term average, as per GW’s stats, is 16.3c and all current output and forecasts are for an above average month.  How can we possibly not achieve at least 16.7c to get a top five spot?  Oh hang on!  This is the Great British summer!  

 


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ARTzeman
02 August 2018 11:06:12

Met Office Hadley          17.7c.      Anomaly       1.7c. Provisional to 1st.

Metcheck                       17.56c     Anomaly       1.53c

Netweather                    18.95c     Anomaly       2.76c 

Cheadle Hulme              18.7c       Anomaly       2.6c

Darwen                         19.3c      Anomaly        3.02c

Mansfield Woodhouse  18.1c     Anomaly    1.5c

Peasedown St John   18.23c   Anomaly   0.07c.

Mean Of 10 Stations  =  18.215c.          




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Gusty
02 August 2018 20:33:13

Now that we have the CET figure for July, I thought I'd take a look at where summer 2018 now stands relative to the 'Top Five' summers in the CET summer series:

                    June&July                 August          Summer JJA

1) 1976         17.85                       17.6             17.77

2) 1826         17.6                         17.6            17.60

3) 1995         16.45                       19.2             17.37

4) 2003         16.85                       18.3             17.33

5) 2006         17.8                         16.1             17.23

6) 2018         17.6                          ???               ???

So from these figures it can be seen that:

1) 2018 so far is in a very strong position, being ahead of 1995 and 2003, but still behind 1976 and 2006, and the same as 1826.

2) To pass the summer of 1976 an August figure of at least 18.2C would be required (16.1+19.1+18.2=53.4/3=17.80).

3) To get into fifth position and displace 2006, August would only need to be at least 16.7C (16.1+19.1+16.7=51.9/3=17.30). Even allowing for the current variable output, this should well be possible!

Either way it would take a relatively poor August now to keep the summer of 2018 out of the Top Five in the CET summer series.

 

Originally Posted by: golfingmad 

Wow..2006 really did go down the pan in August !


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ARTzeman
03 August 2018 11:15:19

Met Office Hadley     19.2c    Anomaly   3.1c. Provisional to 2nd.

Metcheck                  19.25c  Anomaly    3.02c

Netweather               20.11c  Anomaly    3.92c

Alton                      21.7c    Anomaly    4.07c

Darwen                   20.2c    Anomaly    3.72c

Mansfield Woodhouse  19.6c   Anomaly   3.0c

Peasedown St John  18.6c    Anomaly   0.28c.

Treviskey Redruth Cornwall 18.50c. Anomaly 1.48c. 

 

Mean Of My 10 Watched stations  19.76c.    




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03 August 2018 17:39:47

Met Office Hadley     19.2c    Anomaly   3.1c. Provisional to 2nd.

Metcheck                  19.25c  Anomaly    3.02c

Netweather               20.11c  Anomaly    3.92c

Alton                      21.7c    Anomaly    4.07c

Darwen                   20.2c    Anomaly    3.72c

Mansfield Woodhouse  19.6c   Anomaly   3.0c

Peasedown St John  18.6c    Anomaly   0.28c.

Treviskey Redruth Cornwall 18.50c. Anomaly 1.48c. 

 

Mean Of My 10 Watched stations  19.76c.    

Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 

A good start to the month but going forward, I think it’s anybody’s guess judging by the output!  


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03 August 2018 21:25:21

A good start to the month but going forward, I think it’s anybody’s guess judging by the output!  

Originally Posted by: Caz 

I went for 17.0C this month, at the time I thought that was quite conservative as I didn't want to be blinded by all those forecasts of hot & sunny weather for the first half of the month. However now things have have changed somewhat and I wonder ifi that 17.0C figure might turn out to be rather optimistic. Things could change again  of course but a cooler/wetter spell does seem likely from mid week next week.


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04 August 2018 04:56:13

I went for 17.0C this month, at the time I thought that was quite conservative as I didn't want to be blinded by all those forecasts of hot & sunny weather for the first half of the month. However now things have have changed somewhat and I wonder ifi that 17.0C figure might turn out to be rather optimistic. Things could change again  of course but a cooler/wetter spell does seem likely from mid week next week.

Originally Posted by: Col 

I don’t think that’s a bad shout!  

It’s hard to imagine different weather to what we have at prediction time and not be swayed by current conditions.  I went for 17.5c this month, a pure gut feeling guess as always and not influenced by output.  At the moment I don’t regret it but by next weekend, I might!  


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ARTzeman
04 August 2018 11:04:36

Met Office Hadley         19.8c       Anomaly     3.6c. Provisional to 3rd.

Metcheck                      19.71c.    Anomaly     3.49c

Netweather                   20.73c     Anomaly     4.54c

Clevedon Weather         19.6c      Anomaly      2.25c

Darwen                        19.5c      Anomaly      3.02c

Hexam                         19.6c      Anomaly      3.44c

Mansfield Woodhouse  19.6c    Anomaly    3.0c

Peasedown St John  19.2c   Anomaly   0.88c

Treviskey Redruth        18.4c.      Anomaly    1.88c.

 

Mean of 10 stations   18.82c.         




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Hungry Tiger
04 August 2018 13:54:47

Met Office Hadley         19.8c       Anomaly     3.6c. Provisional to 3rd.

Metcheck                      19.71c.    Anomaly     3.49c

Netweather                   20.73c     Anomaly     4.54c

Clevedon Weather         19.6c      Anomaly      2.25c

Darwen                        19.5c      Anomaly      3.02c

Hexam                         19.6c      Anomaly      3.44c

Mansfield Woodhouse  19.6c    Anomaly    3.0c

Peasedown St John  19.2c   Anomaly   0.88c

Treviskey Redruth        18.4c.      Anomaly    1.88c.

 

Mean of 10 stations   18.82c.         

Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 

That wil be coming down this week. I get the impression by not as much as we might have otherwise thought.


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Gavin P
04 August 2018 18:07:03

My calculations for the first three days give a mean of 19.48C

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 

 

Thanks GW. 

 So we could already be on course for quite a big downwards correction then?


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ARTzeman
04 August 2018 21:17:28

Could be down to 17.5c middle of the month...




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Snowshoe
04 August 2018 21:26:22

Now that we have the CET figure for July, I thought I'd take a look at where summer 2018 now stands relative to the 'Top Five' summers in the CET summer series:

 

Originally Posted by: golfingmad 

 

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but ignoring the specific summer months we have had the warmest May - July three month period

 

2018    16.13eistjg43534dsfd°C

2006    15.97°C

1976    15.93°C

1762    15.87°C

1868    15.77°C

 

2017 was the 10th warmest May - July period at 15.33°C.

 

It was also the warmest April - July period. 

Bolty
04 August 2018 21:30:40

 

 

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but ignoring the specific summer months we have had the warmest May - July three month period

 

2018    16.13eistjg43534dsfd°C

2006    15.97°C

1976    15.93°C

1762    15.87°C

1868    15.77°C

 

2017 was the 10th warmest May - July period at 15.33°C.

 

It was also the warmest April - July period. 

Originally Posted by: Snowshoe 

It might be statistically, but was April even that good? The heat wave was, but the rest of the month was jsut a cool, cloudy borefest. It was the cloud that kept the overnight temperatures up, hence the CET.


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05 August 2018 03:43:19

 

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but ignoring the specific summer months we have had the warmest May - July three month period

2018    16.13eistjg43534dsfd°C

2006    15.97°C

1976    15.93°C

1762    15.87°C

1868    15.77°C

2017 was the 10th warmest May - July period at 15.33°C.

It was also the warmest April - July period. 

Originally Posted by: Snowshoe 

  GW posted on the July thread that 2018 would take the record for May, June and July but I don’t think the actual figures were posted!  

It’s quite an achievement to get past the 16c mark!  Even more so that the temp rose so quickly after such a late cold spell in winter! 


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05 August 2018 11:59:56

Met Office Hadley         19.8c.      Anomaly      3.70c.  Provisional to 4th.

Metcheck                      19.57c     Anomaly      3.34c

Netweather                   20.59c     Anomaly      4.4c

Alton                           20.3c.      Anomaly      2.67c

Darwen                       19.9c       Anomaly      3.42c

Mansfield Woodhouse  19.9c.    Anomaly    3.3c

Peasedown St John   19.4c    Anomaly     10.8c

 

Mean Of 10 Stations    19.9c.             




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Global Warming
05 August 2018 14:12:21

August prediction table

Here are the August figures. A fairly good spread but a big cluster between 17.2 and 17.8C.

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Gavin P
05 August 2018 14:19:43

 

At the moment yes. But the figures tend to be quite volatile at the start of the month given there are only a small number of data points. We will have a better sense in about a week's time.

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 

 

 

Have you got an assessment of where well be with the CET is some of the latest GFS comes off? I'm assuming we might be on course for quite a big drop by the second half of the month?


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Windy Willow
05 August 2018 14:22:28

Oh gosh, now I wonder if I guessed too cool!


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05 August 2018 14:28:37

Oh gosh, now I wonder if I guessed too cool!

Originally Posted by: Windy Willow 

Don’t worry!  At this stage your guess is as good as anyone’s!  I’m hoping I’ve gone too low with 17.5c because I’d like to see this summer break more records and at least take the number two spot!  


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Gavin P
05 August 2018 14:31:44

The current output has the CET crashing after Tuesday. Could be an interesting month.

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Originally Posted by: Global Warming 

 

 

Thanks GW.   There goes the hottest Summer on record is that comes off! 


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Hungry Tiger
05 August 2018 20:01:14

The current output has the CET crashing after Tuesday. Could be an interesting month.

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Originally Posted by: Global Warming 

I hope this doesn't tank the potential for the hottest summer ever - given how close we are to that.

 


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