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#301 Posted : 11 August 2012 21:19:18(UTC)
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Is your post available for download on my Kindle? 

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#302 Posted : 12 August 2012 07:02:54(UTC)
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Looks like warmer than average 850s are often going to be in evidence in the coming week, dropping to average on Monday and Wednesday before warming up quite strongly again for next weekend.

Next week looks pretty wet at times in parts of the country. Wednesday in particular continues to look very wet across the country. Further to the north and west it looks like being more generally rainy in the coming week.

http://www.wetterzentral...s/MT8_Manchester_ens.png
http://www.wetterzentral...ics/MT8_Aberdeen_ens.png

In the south east it looks like rain on Monday and Wednesday may be interspersed with drier weather in Tuesday and Thursday.

http://www.wetterzentral.../pics/MT8_London_ens.png

By the weekend the low pressure out west is pulling possibly very warm (and humid?) air up over the country for a couple of days. However, this morning's GFS suggests cold weather pushing down from the north and west after next weekend, possibly quite a bit cooler particularly further north as the low pressure crosses to the east. The extent of the cold is a bit of an outlier and for what it's worth 18z suggested a much warmer FI. This morning's ECM doesn't support the extent of the cooler 00z GFS FI either, but either way as you would expect the heat being pulled up from the continent over the weekend doesn't last that long.
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#303 Posted : 12 August 2012 09:09:35(UTC)
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Wednesday continues to threaten to be a horror show - most especially though the GFS which keeps insisting on ratcheting up all the wrong ingredients ECM is not quite as bad, and shows a less stormy swathe of precipitation, although still heavy in western areas.

http://en.vedur.is/photos/atlant_evr_urkomuspa/120812_0000_90.png

UKMO still shows what would be the most preferable scenario of all and makes much less of the low

Either side of that it looks like some sunshine, some showers - the showers mostly in the north and west other than some rain generally tomorrow

Edited by user 12 August 2012 09:10:41(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#304 Posted : 12 August 2012 09:48:52(UTC)
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Wednesday could see a severe spell of weather, depending on the extent to which convective activity occurs.

After all, a high-moisture airmass is predicted to advect northward from the continent, potentially at low levels, in which case it could become very unstable.

As the intensifying low pressure develops and moves close to the UK, this currently looks sufficient to create strong vertical wind shear, which is a key ingredient for organised convective weather that could be severe in nature.

 

GFS looks to be producing a MCS (mesoscale convective system) from this potential. I'm not sure about ECM but it does bring a lot of rain to the west in particular as NSSC has pointed out for us.

 

Obviously UKMO is showing a setup that would be far less threatening so... we'll see. Having read many accounts of what this kind of system can do in the USA, my imagination is running wild, but I'm not expecting anything like as intense as those events can sometimes be!


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#305 Posted : 12 August 2012 10:33:25(UTC)
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Been away so not sure if anything on this theme has been posted over the pasty few days but over the next couple weeks, it seems to me that the major change on the agenda is the rising of euro heights to our south. This will have the effect of pushing the worst effects of the developing north scandi trough towards the north of the uk whilst the south east quarter could well see a very decent period of weather. Of course that doesn't mean there won't be any rainfall but the theme will be fine interspersed with less settled interludes. Across the north of the uk, a more mobile atlantic dominated outlook looks likely.
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#306 Posted : 12 August 2012 10:35:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: North Sea Snow Convection Go to Quoted Post

Wednesday continues to threaten to be a horror show - most especially though the GFS which keeps insisting on ratcheting up all the wrong ingredients ECM is not quite as bad, and shows a less stormy swathe of precipitation, although still heavy in western areas.

http://en.vedur.is/photos/atlant_evr_urkomuspa/120812_0000_90.png

UKMO still shows what would be the most preferable scenario of all and makes much less of the low

Either side of that it looks like some sunshine, some showers - the showers mostly in the north and west other than some rain generally tomorrow

The Met/o fax for Wednesday looks pretty nasty for the time of year;

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack2a.gif

After that clears though its warm and changeable thereafter.


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#307 Posted : 12 August 2012 11:16:04(UTC)
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Here's todays video: Soaking Rain On Wednesday: http://www.gavsweathervids.com/

Quite an unusual event this (if it comes off as progged) with 15c+ 850's fueling an intense area of low pressure just to the south-west approaches.

Edited by user 12 August 2012 11:47:19(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#308 Posted : 12 August 2012 11:28:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Here's todays video: Soaking Rain On Wednesday: http://www.gavsweathervids.com/

Quite an unusual event this (if it comes off as progeed) with 15c+ 850's fueling an intense area of low pressure just to the south-west approaches.

What are we looking at here - a severe and intense downpour. How much rain 50mm to 75mm??

 

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#309 Posted : 12 August 2012 11:36:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Here's todays video: Soaking Rain On Wednesday: http://www.gavsweathervids.com/

Quite an unusual event this (if it comes off as progeed) with 15c+ 850's fueling an intense area of low pressure just to the south-west approaches.

What are we looking at here - a severe and intense downpour. How much rain 50mm to 75mm??

 

Difficult to say, but in the video I say theres the possibility of 50mm in places. I suppose it will depend whether we get embedded thunderstorms or whether its just a general thundery/torrential rain. Certainly looks quite unusual.

Edited by user 12 August 2012 11:37:24(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#310 Posted : 12 August 2012 12:00:36(UTC)
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Well at least the weather did the decent thing and gave the Olympics some breating space in the tune of some relatively OK weather.

So its back to the crap summer next week so it seems.

Well. Lets not let it upset us.

Anyay before I go OT any more.

The models on GFS.

Doesn't all look bad - some is - but not all of it - Out to 28th.

http://www.jp2webdesign.co.uk/ds/gfs.htm

 

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#311 Posted : 12 August 2012 12:01:49(UTC)
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06z continues to show some very wet weather on Wednesday. But also some very warm weather next weekend and possibly some very warm (plumey) weather the weekend after (FI seems to be switching back and forth between very warm and very cold fom one run to the next, though the control maybe now offering some support for a warmer bank holiday weekend).

Looks drier in general for next weekend further south.

http://www.wetterzentral.../pics/MT8_London_ens.png
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#312 Posted : 12 August 2012 12:05:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Well at least the weather did the decent thing and gave the Olympics some breating space in the tune of some relatively OK weather.

So its back to the crap summer next week so it seems.

Well. Lets not let it upset us.

Anyay before I go OT any more.

The models on GFS.

Doesn't all look bad - some is - but not all of it - Out to 28th.

http://www.jp2webdesign.co.uk/ds/gfs.htm

 



First half of summer was certainly very poor. Second may end up being quite a bit better. Not the whole way through obviously and rather depends which way the FI see saw goes. But the last week of July, second week of August have been pretty pleasant.
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#313 Posted : 12 August 2012 12:05:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Steam Fog Go to Quoted Post
06z continues to show some very wet weather on Wednesday. But also some very warm weather next weekend and possibly some very warm (plumey) weather the weekend after (FI seems to be switching back and forth between very warm and very cold fom one run to the next, though the control maybe now offering some support for a warmer bank holiday weekend). Looks drier in general for next weekend further south. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

Interesting that is - Philip Eden in todays Sunday Telegraph has gone for a very warm spell for the end of the week.

 

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#314 Posted : 12 August 2012 12:53:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Steam Fog Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Well at least the weather did the decent thing and gave the Olympics some breating space in the tune of some relatively OK weather.

So its back to the crap summer next week so it seems.

Well. Lets not let it upset us.

Anyay before I go OT any more.

The models on GFS.

Doesn't all look bad - some is - but not all of it - Out to 28th.

http://www.jp2webdesign.co.uk/ds/gfs.htm

 

First half of summer was certainly very poor. Second may end up being quite a bit better. Not the whole way through obviously and rather depends which way the FI see saw goes. But the last week of July, second week of August have been pretty pleasant.

IMBY taking all things into account its probably the best 3 week spell of summer weather since 2006 (the week of low pressure last week only delivered a few showers in total here). Late June/early July 2010 is also a contender but i recall it being rather cloudy at times.

The models show a change to a more changeable regime through the coming weeks with the emphasis switching to spells of rain or showers punctuated by drier and more settled periods. With southwesterlies prevailing it should be consistently warm by day and by night. Still very acceptable conditions for Summer and a far cry from the dreadful pattern of June.

Just a sign that winds may tilt more westerly to end the month so temperatures dropping back. But thats a long way off.

Edited by user 12 August 2012 12:54:49(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#315 Posted : 12 August 2012 16:50:26(UTC)
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GFS 12z seems to be indicating that pressure may start to try and build from the south again in about a week's time, as the low out in the atlantic loses its oomph somewhat. This model has been suggesting this in the latters stages of several runs in the last 3 or 4 days, and the 240hr chart of this morning's ECM run hinted at that as well. More runs needed though.

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#316 Posted : 12 August 2012 17:10:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Here's todays video: Soaking Rain On Wednesday: http://www.gavsweathervids.com/

Quite an unusual event this (if it comes off as progeed) with 15c+ 850's fueling an intense area of low pressure just to the south-west approaches.

What are we looking at here - a severe and intense downpour. How much rain 50mm to 75mm??

 

Difficult to say, but in the video I say theres the possibility of 50mm in places. I suppose it will depend whether we get embedded thunderstorms or whether its just a general thundery/torrential rain. Certainly looks quite unusual.

Does look unusual to see temps as high as these near such a depression

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn7817.png

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn782.png

Appears almost tropical

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn784.png

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#317 Posted : 12 August 2012 17:19:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Phil G Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Here's todays video: Soaking Rain On Wednesday: http://www.gavsweathervids.com/

Quite an unusual event this (if it comes off as progeed) with 15c+ 850's fueling an intense area of low pressure just to the south-west approaches.

What are we looking at here - a severe and intense downpour. How much rain 50mm to 75mm??

 

Difficult to say, but in the video I say theres the possibility of 50mm in places. I suppose it will depend whether we get embedded thunderstorms or whether its just a general thundery/torrential rain. Certainly looks quite unusual.

Does look unusual to see temps as high as these near such a depression

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn7817.png

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn782.png

Appears almost tropical

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn784.png

Wow 



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#318 Posted : 12 August 2012 18:30:39(UTC)
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GFS operational FI goes for some very warm temperatures early next week. The control also looks very warm. Still quite a bit of volatility from run to run, but a further shift towards some of the warmer options this evening.

http://www.wetterzentral.../pics/MT8_London_ens.png
http://www.wetterzentral...s/MT8_Manchester_ens.png
http://www.wetterzentral...ics/MT8_Aberdeen_ens.png

Looks drier in the south east. Wet everywhere on Wednesday.
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#319 Posted : 12 August 2012 18:58:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Steam Fog Go to Quoted Post
GFS operational FI goes for some very warm temperatures early next week. The control also looks very warm. Still quite a bit of volatility from run to run, but a further shift towards some of the warmer options this evening. http://www.wetterzentral.../pics/MT8_London_ens.png http://www.wetterzentral...s/MT8_Manchester_ens.png http://www.wetterzentral...ics/MT8_Aberdeen_ens.png Looks drier in the south east. Wet everywhere on Wednesday.

ECM is hot as well.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm722.html

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1202.html

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1442.html

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1682.html

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.html

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.html

 

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#320 Posted : 12 August 2012 19:03:18(UTC)
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met office forecast for my area weds / thurs does not look that bad, so we will have to wait and see.

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