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#161 Posted : 25 June 2012 18:12:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 Go to Quoted Post
I think the CET for this month will be just a footnote, it will be the rainfall that this month will be remembered for.

And the lack of sunshine as well and also not to forget - the gales.

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#162 Posted : 25 June 2012 18:16:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum Go to Quoted Post

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Shocked that Philip's CET is still just 12.4. Will we even get to 13c?

Whatever, it does appear my prediction that we'd have the coolest June since 1991 has been quite good. It was pretty risky, so I'm relieved its come off.

What was the final result in 1991?

12.1.

Before that you have to go back to 1972 to find a sub 12c June (11.8)

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#163 Posted : 25 June 2012 18:32:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Shocked that Philip's CET is still just 12.4. Will we even get to 13c?

Whatever, it does appear my prediction that we'd have the coolest June since 1991 has been quite good. It was pretty risky, so I'm relieved its come off.

What was the final result in 1991?

12.1.

Before that you have to go back to 1972 to find a sub 12c June (11.8)

Thanks! That is interesting. In 1972, I would have been 18, but not unnaturally I cannot recall the weather that month.

It is easy to recall when we had extreme winters, since they were rare and noteable, plus 1976 summer always stands out.

But a horribly cold June in 1972 - I guess I endured it, but I don't remember it.

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#164 Posted : 25 June 2012 18:36:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

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Shocked that Philip's CET is still just 12.4. Will we even get to 13c?

Whatever, it does appear my prediction that we'd have the coolest June since 1991 has been quite good. It was pretty risky, so I'm relieved its come off.

What was the final result in 1991?

12.1.

Before that you have to go back to 1972 to find a sub 12c June (11.8)

Thanks! That is interesting. In 1972, I would have been 18, but not unnaturally I cannot recall the weather that month.

It is easy to recall when we had extreme winters, since they were rare and noteable, plus 1976 summer always stands out.

But a horribly cold June in 1972 - I guess I endured it, but I don't remember it.

I can remember June 1972 even though I was only 10. I recall these terribly cold days having to do athletics outside and it was bitter.

It was a cold month caused by frequent north and north westerly winds. It was dry as well as I recall.

Curously enough and I don't know why - but I can hardly remember June 1991 at all.

 

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#165 Posted : 25 June 2012 18:57:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Phew .

Sounds about right to me though.

http://www.climate-uk.com/

Cet 12.4C

and look at that rain and lack of sunshine.

Big difference with the official CET so far, at 13.1C:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html

-0.9C is nothing to write home about really, I doubt anybody would be able to tell the difference between a 20C day and a 21C day, for example!

It's more the rainfall / dullness that's notable rather than the temperatures IMO.

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#166 Posted : 25 June 2012 19:36:24(UTC)
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June stats here up to yesterday

Avg mean 12.4ºC

High max 22.1ºC (20th)

Rainfall 120.2mm

Sunshine 64.5 hours
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#167 Posted : 25 June 2012 20:33:49(UTC)
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Dullest june on record in coventry was 1972 with just 98hrs. Were at 72 hrs so far this month.
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#168 Posted : 25 June 2012 21:29:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum Go to Quoted Post
That is interesting. In 1972, I would have been 18,

In 1972, I would have been born

 

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but not unnaturally I cannot recall the weather that month.

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#169 Posted : 25 June 2012 21:32:40(UTC)
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My CET estimate for Hadley stands at 12.80C after today and is expected to reach 13.36C by the end of the month. As I said some days back Gavin P's prediction for this month is looking excellent.

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#170 Posted : 25 June 2012 22:08:03(UTC)
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Thanks GW.

Makes a change.

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#171 Posted : 26 June 2012 14:37:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Global Warming Go to Quoted Post

My CET estimate for Hadley stands at 12.80C after today and is expected to reach 13.36C by the end of the month. As I said some days back Gavin P's prediction for this month is looking excellent.

Don't forget my prediction as well

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#172 Posted : 26 June 2012 17:29:57(UTC)
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Looking at those projected daily CET anomaly figures shows quite how different the two halves of June are. Sadly both halves are below average, just the first half substantially more than the second.

Roughly adding and subtracting I reckon you get a cumulative figure of around -16 for the first half (so each day averaged 1C below the seasonal figure). The second half of the month would end up around -2 (so around average, just below the seasonal figure).

Clearly that doesn't tell the full story (and is just a comment on CET not the rainfall or sunshine), but at least the whole month wasn't like the first half in terms of temperarure. I suspect the temperature figures would look rather worse further north. Possibly a little better further south.
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#173 Posted : 28 June 2012 18:57:57(UTC)
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CET's up to 13.3;

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html 

Presumably todays CET will take it above 13.5?

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#174 Posted : 28 June 2012 21:23:28(UTC)
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Gavin - Hadley is a day behind and has not updated for yesterday yet. It should rise a combined 0.5C over the past two days so we should see 13.8C up to today on the provisional Hadley.

The more accurate figure based on my calculations has a figure of 13.38C up to today. We just managed a 20C CET today for the first time this year.

Less warm for the final two days of the month meaning we should now end up at about 13.5C.

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#175 Posted : 28 June 2012 21:32:18(UTC)
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Thanks GW.

Against all odds Charmhills could just sneak the plaudits then?

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#176 Posted : 29 June 2012 20:00:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Phew .

Sounds about right to me though.

http://www.climate-uk.com/

Cet 12.4C

and look at that rain and lack of sunshine.

Met Office figures to the 27th show sunshine at 104.2hrs for the UK as a whole. The dullest June on record was 115.8hrs in 1987. So we could still be on course for the dullest and wettest June on record.

Cool as well with temperatures about 1.4C below average in terms of maximum temperatures. The average maximum to the 27th for the UK is 15.5C. There have only been 8 cooler years since 1910 with 1991 being the most recent, followed by 1987.

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/06/29/met-office-figures-confirm-disappointing-june/

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#177 Posted : 29 June 2012 20:49:08(UTC)
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Shocking stats all round then. Sums up whats been an awful month. And personally i dont think the second half has been too bad so that just shows how diabolical the first half was. Probably the worst fortnight of summer i can ever remember.

Thankfully the models for the first half of July are looking more encouraging than the first half of June so maybe July will get off to a better start.

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#178 Posted : 30 June 2012 08:39:58(UTC)
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Philip's updated to the 29th and is at 13.6;

http://climate-uk.com/

I would suspect thats where it'll stay for the final day?

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#179 Posted : 30 June 2012 10:12:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Philip's updated to the 29th and is at 13.6;

http://climate-uk.com/

I would suspect thats where it'll stay for the final day?

It might tick up to 13.7C Gavin - I have the CET increasing by about 0.05C today so it depends on the rounding as to whether it ticks up or not.

I still expect Hadley to finish around 13.5C

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#180 Posted : 01 July 2012 10:43:47(UTC)
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Final Hadley CET for June is 13.53C

Nobody had the correct prediction but Chamhills was the closest with 13.7C.

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