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Gandalf The White Offline
#121 Posted : 04 July 2011 16:11:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White Go to Quoted Post

Sometimes I struggle to understand the positions you take here and this is a gold-plated example.

I just like kicking things sometimes Gandalf,to see if anything falls out.

I hope you don't approach your wife and kids that way.....

How are you on stocks of indigestion tablets, by the way? 

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#122 Posted : 04 July 2011 16:19:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AIMSIR Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White Go to Quoted Post

Sometimes I struggle to understand the positions you take here and this is a gold-plated example.

I just like kicking things sometimes Gandalf,to see if anything falls out.

I hope you don't approach your wife and kids that way.....

How are you on stocks of indigestion tablets, by the way? 

Purely metaphorical.I'm a big softy really.

I dont get the indigestion tablets bit.

Oh I get it.

I am half way through the hat.Thanks for asking.

Just my luck to have a Stetson.(very dry).

Edited by user 04 July 2011 16:28:25(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#123 Posted : 04 July 2011 16:46:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lawrence Beatty Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR Go to Quoted Post

That's the saddest most whingey, Rant I've heard in a long time. Dev.

Thanks for sharing it with us.

 

Why would that be AIMSIR?

It seemed to me to be a perfectly pitched piece of irony.

I find it intriguing that you felt it appropriate to comment on Dev's post whilst ignoring completely the extraordinary post by Lawrence that led to my riposte and Dev's post?  Perhaps you would care to enlighten us....

 

OK.Lawrence's post was lousy too.So was mine.

As regards your 600,000 year high on co2 post, so was yours.

Happy now?.

 

 

Hey don't associate me with doom and gloom  and by the way I thought my post actually showed the ice-core record; that when shown in total proportions made the so called hockey stick look like a worn out, wet, second hand, pound shop bootlace.

Humans are the pinnacle of this planets history and thankfully any additional Co2 is more than welcolmed to help with better food production which will enable us to crack the ultimate goal-endless energy . That will enable science and the globe to flourish and hopefully allow the future generations a chance of survival , if as history has shown us , things really turn bad. 

For all the doom and gloom of the AGW movement not one ice cream van, deck chair attendent and whelk stool has yet been forced to change route or head for higher ground as a result of catastrophic sea-level rises. yet people still scream we're all going to drown..

 

Sorry but that's how I see it.

That's fine - you're perfectly entitled to your views.  I and others just think you're missing the point.

The point about more CO2 aiding food production has already been justly ridiculed here - it's not proven and in any event there are other more pressing issues affecting food production which are not soluble. A few minutes research on problems with water supply, irrigation and soil quality should alert you on this point.  Beyond that think about moving climate zones and the impact on the main wheat and rice growing regions.

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#124 Posted : 04 July 2011 17:34:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Lawrence Beatty Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR Go to Quoted Post

That's the saddest most whingey, Rant I've heard in a long time. Dev.

Thanks for sharing it with us.

 

Why would that be AIMSIR?

It seemed to me to be a perfectly pitched piece of irony.

I find it intriguing that you felt it appropriate to comment on Dev's post whilst ignoring completely the extraordinary post by Lawrence that led to my riposte and Dev's post?  Perhaps you would care to enlighten us....

 

OK.Lawrence's post was lousy too.So was mine.

As regards your 600,000 year high on co2 post, so was yours.

Happy now?.

 

 

Hey don't associate me with doom and gloom  and by the way I thought my post actually showed the ice-core record; that when shown in total proportions made the so called hockey stick look like a worn out, wet, second hand, pound shop bootlace.

Humans are the pinnacle of this planets history and thankfully any additional Co2 is more than welcolmed to help with better food production which will enable us to crack the ultimate goal-endless energy . That will enable science and the globe to flourish and hopefully allow the future generations a chance of survival , if as history has shown us , things really turn bad. 

For all the doom and gloom of the AGW movement not one ice cream van, deck chair attendent and whelk stool has yet been forced to change route or head for higher ground as a result of catastrophic sea-level rises. yet people still scream we're all going to drown..

 

Sorry but that's how I see it.

That's fine - you're perfectly entitled to your views.  I and others just think you're missing the point.

The point about more CO2 aiding food production has already been justly ridiculed here - it's not proven and in any event there are other more pressing issues affecting food production which are not soluble. A few minutes research on problems with water supply, irrigation and soil quality should alert you on this point.  Beyond that think about moving climate zones and the impact on the main wheat and rice growing regions.

 

Sorry I just felt you needed a bit of cheering up Gandalf, you need to chillax!

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#125 Posted : 04 July 2011 17:36:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

 

Sorry I just felt you needed a bit of cheering up Gandalf, you need to chillax!

[/quote]

Thanks.

Another few lines like that and I'll have the makings of a new screensaver....

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#126 Posted : 04 July 2011 19:55:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

 

Sorry I just felt you needed a bit of cheering up Gandalf, you need to chillax!

Thanks.

Another few lines like that and I'll have the makings of a new screensaver....

[/quote]excellant.

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#127 Posted : 04 July 2011 20:27:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AIMSIR Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

 

Sorry I just felt you needed a bit of cheering up Gandalf, you need to chillax!

Thanks.

Another few lines like that and I'll have the makings of a new screensaver....

excellant.

[/quote]Yes, I like that too Gandalf.

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#128 Posted : 04 July 2011 20:57:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lawrence Beatty Go to Quoted Post

whelk stool

Freudian slip?

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#129 Posted : 04 July 2011 21:19:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lawrence Beatty Go to Quoted Post

whelk stool

Freudian slip?

 

Keep your cross dressing to yourself and its off topic

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#130 Posted : 16 July 2011 14:13:56(UTC)
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One of the most concerning aspects of the dicussion on this forum is that AGW denail seems to go along with other spects of antiscience such as denial of CFCs causing the ozone hole, denial of the adverse health effects of asbestos, insecticides, passive smoking, evolution etc etc . This is a challenge for better science education in schools and through the media of the public in general.

Edited by user 16 July 2011 14:14:44(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#131 Posted : 16 July 2011 18:56:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TomC Go to Quoted Post

One of the most concerning aspects of the dicussion on this forum is that AGW denail seems to go along with other spects of antiscience such as denial of CFCs causing the ozone hole, denial of the adverse health effects of asbestos, insecticides, passive smoking, evolution etc etc . This is a challenge for better science education in schools and through the media of the public in general.

With the exception of CFC's which is another can of worms, then probably not all of us sceptics share the same outlook. Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 

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#132 Posted : 16 July 2011 19:05:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 

 

It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.

Coincidence?

 

Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken

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#133 Posted : 16 July 2011 19:18:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Essan Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 

 

It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.

Coincidence?

 

Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken

Evolution cannot be refuted as it's an ongoing process, what is debatable is the origins of man. No concrete proof either way I'm afraid. Oh dear I've got an awful feeling this is going the way of many debates on here, round and round and round and round, stop now I want to get off!! 

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#134 Posted : 16 July 2011 19:27:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Essan Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 

 

It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.

Coincidence?

 

Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken

Evolution cannot be refuted as it's an ongoing process, what is debatable is the origins of man. No concrete proof either way I'm afraid. Oh dear I've got an awful feeling this is going the way of many debates on here, round and round and round and round, stop now I want to get off!! 

Stick with it Cycles.

Some here, are experts at thread wrecking if they don't like your opinions.

Watch out for the Deep Green Brigade.

At least one should post here soon with indignation.

,Don't let them get you down.I think they are generally known to most posters here as pains in the you know what?.

Edited by user 16 July 2011 19:38:46(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#135 Posted : 16 July 2011 19:35:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AIMSIR Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Essan Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 

 

It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.

Coincidence?

 

Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken

Evolution cannot be refuted as it's an ongoing process, what is debatable is the origins of man. No concrete proof either way I'm afraid. Oh dear I've got an awful feeling this is going the way of many debates on here, round and round and round and round, stop now I want to get off!! 

Stick with it Cycles.

Some here, are experts at thread wrecking if they don't like your opinions.

,Don't let them get you down.

No chance of that Aimsir, as some on here would love to see me disappear/banned , due to my diligent  determination for the truth to be told.

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#136 Posted : 16 July 2011 19:43:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Essan Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 

 

It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.

Coincidence?

 

Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken

Evolution cannot be refuted as it's an ongoing process, what is debatable is the origins of man. No concrete proof either way I'm afraid. Oh dear I've got an awful feeling this is going the way of many debates on here, round and round and round and round, stop now I want to get off!! 

Stick with it Cycles.

Some here, are experts at thread wrecking if they don't like your opinions.

,Don't let them get you down.

No chance of that Aimsir, as some on here would love to see me disappear/banned , due to my diligent  determination for the truth to be told.

Most do make a degree of sense.

Some are just nuts and despise humans and even themselves sadly.Imo.

No future no hope.no ideas for the future.bad bad all the way.

Sad really.

Edited by user 16 July 2011 19:57:42(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#137 Posted : 16 July 2011 19:57:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AIMSIR Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Essan Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 

 

It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.

Coincidence?

 

Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken

Evolution cannot be refuted as it's an ongoing process, what is debatable is the origins of man. No concrete proof either way I'm afraid. Oh dear I've got an awful feeling this is going the way of many debates on here, round and round and round and round, stop now I want to get off!! 

Stick with it Cycles.

Some here, are experts at thread wrecking if they don't like your opinions.

,Don't let them get you down.

No chance of that Aimsir, as some on here would love to see me disappear/banned , due to my diligent  determination for the truth to be told.

Most do make a degree of sense.

Some are just nuts and despise humans and even themselves sadly.Imo.

 Oh I agree some of the warmers on here are very good posters, some are a little OTT, and then some just hate all of mankind. It's what makes the world go round though. 

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#138 Posted : 16 July 2011 20:00:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TomC Go to Quoted Post

One of the most concerning aspects of the dicussion on this forum is that AGW denail seems to go along with other spects of antiscience such as denial of CFCs causing the ozone hole, denial of the adverse health effects of asbestos, insecticides, passive smoking, evolution etc etc . This is a challenge for better science education in schools and through the media of the public in general.



Saying if you don't go along with the supposed  'consensus' opinion of imminent disasterous warming means you probably have irrational opinions on various other topics is rather a irrational viewpoint.
It assumes for a start that the 'consensus' was not manufactured in some way.
http://judithcurry.com/2011/07/16/manufacturing-consensus/

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#139 Posted : 16 July 2011 20:02:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AIMSIR Go to Quoted Post

Some are just nuts and despise humans and even themselves sadly.Imo.

You spoken to a pistachio or an almond lately?  You'd be surprised what they have to say

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#140 Posted : 16 July 2011 20:04:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: four Go to Quoted Post

Saying if you don't go along with the supposed  'consensus' opinion of imminent disasterous warming means you probably have irrational opinions on various other topics is rather a irrational viewpoint.
It assumes for a start that the 'consensus' was not manufactured in some way.

As opposed to promoting catastrophic global cooling .....

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