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#321 Posted : 09 July 2012 06:55:17(UTC)
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Yep that turning point second set had it gone Murrays way ? luck and like said genius federer
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#322 Posted : 09 July 2012 13:20:36(UTC)
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Federer saved his best tennis for the semi and the final , Murray IMO needs to be more succesful on his second serve .

Murray can hold his head high though, lets remember RF is the finest grass court tennis player the world has ever seen

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#323 Posted : 09 July 2012 14:21:35(UTC)
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Federer has learned one thing from Borg:
Resistance is futile.

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#324 Posted : 09 July 2012 15:39:33(UTC)
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Federer is after Sampras's record of 7 titles. He's now equalled it and now wants to break it.

I think he'll struggle. I would be very suprised if he won it next year.

Murray got to the final beacuse Nadal got knocked out.

If the same happens next year then Murray will get it - beacuse he has youth on his side.

 

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#325 Posted : 09 July 2012 16:17:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Federer is after Sampras's record of 7 titles. He's now equalled it and now wants to break it.

I think he'll struggle. I would be very suprised if he won it next year.

Murray got to the final beacuse Nadal got knocked out.

If the same happens next year then Murray will get it - beacuse he has youth on his side.

 



That doesn't make sense even with all the ifs and buts. By your reckoning, if it's the same next year then Federer wouldn't even get to the final because he'll lose to Djokavic in the semis, and Murray will get battered in the final....


Anyway, I saw a very different Murray yesterday. One that showed humility and embraced his fans with great emotion. I, for one, will be rooting for him in the Olympics. Mind you I haven't changed my opinion. I still don't believe he will ever win a slam.
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#326 Posted : 09 July 2012 21:05:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Matty H Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Federer is after Sampras's record of 7 titles. He's now equalled it and now wants to break it.

I think he'll struggle. I would be very suprised if he won it next year.

Murray got to the final beacuse Nadal got knocked out.

If the same happens next year then Murray will get it - beacuse he has youth on his side.

 

That doesn't make sense even with all the ifs and buts. By your reckoning, if it's the same next year then Federer wouldn't even get to the final because he'll lose to Djokavic in the semis, and Murray will get battered in the final.... Anyway, I saw a very different Murray yesterday. One that showed humility and embraced his fans with great emotion. I, for one, will be rooting for him in the Olympics. Mind you I haven't changed my opinion. I still don't believe he will ever win a slam.

 

However much I hope he will win one, I think your right Matty. I hear he is taking a whole week off to get to grips with it all before picking up another racket. The reporters were ramping up an improved batch of youngsters may be on of them in the future maybe... Crystal ball anyone

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#327 Posted : 09 July 2012 22:53:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Matty H Go to Quoted Post

 I still don't believe he will ever win a slam.

I agree unfortunately. He's a very good player but lacks that killer instinct needed for a Champion. We saw it again on Sunday, when he had those break points in the second set. He folded after Federer won that set and never recovered.

He had luck in this tournament with Nadal getting knocked out and his only real test was in the final. It was there for the taking but he couldnt do it and that is the nature of sport. You have to take the opportunity when it arises as it may never come again

 
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#328 Posted : 10 July 2012 13:14:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Matty H Go to Quoted Post

 I still don't believe he will ever win a slam.

I agree unfortunately. He's a very good player but lacks that killer instinct needed for a Champion. We saw it again on Sunday, when he had those break points in the second set. He folded after Federer won that set and never recovered.

He had luck in this tournament with Nadal getting knocked out and his only real test was in the final. It was there for the taking but he couldnt do it and that is the nature of sport. You have to take the opportunity when it arises as it may never come again

 

Totally agree, and your point that I've highlighted is especially apt. Andy Murray's ability is beyond question, but as you say what he lacks is a killer instinct. I think this was also true of Colin Montgomerie in golf and Jimmy White in snooker when they were at the height of their powers. Like Murray just now, their ability was beyond question, but they just couldn't pull it off in the big tournaments when it really mattered.

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#329 Posted : 10 July 2012 19:52:31(UTC)
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Very nearly men . so close like said before its not the likes of Murray are rubbish its the shear power of the no1s.
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#330 Posted : 10 July 2012 20:39:34(UTC)
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Very nearly men . so close like said before its not the likes of Murray are rubbish its the shear power of the no1s.


You could make that statement on any day since tennis began and it would be true.
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#331 Posted : 10 July 2012 20:43:19(UTC)
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At the end of the day Murray is ranked 4th in the world and finished 2nd at Wimbledon. Therefore he exceeded expectations and put up a jolly good show. We should all be happy and move on ;)
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#332 Posted : 10 July 2012 21:49:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve Go to Quoted Post
At the end of the day Murray is ranked 4th in the world and finished 2nd at Wimbledon. Therefore he exceeded expectations and put up a jolly good show. We should all be happy and move on ;)

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#333 Posted : 10 July 2012 21:49:58(UTC)
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Could have been a great British champion... instead he's a plucky Scottish runner-up. ;)
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#334 Posted : 13 July 2012 09:16:10(UTC)
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Absolutely shocking stuff.

British number one Anne Keothavong and Heather Watson are both out of the Bank of West Classic in Stanford.

Keothavong, 28, was beaten 2-6 7-5 6-4 by unranked Mallory Burdette - who last won a professional singles match in 2008 - in the first round.

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#335 Posted : 14 July 2012 06:58:11(UTC)
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Top three all rotate as they have for the last few years, three potential no1s that why others rarely get a look in IMHO




Men's rankings

ATP singles rankings as of Monday 9 July 2012:

1. Roger Federer (Swi)

2. Novak Djokovic (Ser)

3. Rafael Nadal (Spa)

4. Andy Murray (GB)

5. David Ferrer (Spa)

6. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (Fra)

7. Tomas Berdych (Cze)

8. Janko Tipsarevic (Ser)

9. Juan Martín del Potro (Arg)

10. Nicolas Almagro (Spa)

11. John Isner (US)

12. Gilles Simon (Fra)

13. Mardy Fish (US)

14. Juan Monaco (Arg)

15. Marin Cilic (Cro)

16. Fernando Verdasco (Spa)

17. Gael Monfils (Fra)

18. Kei Nishikori (Jpn)

19. Alexandr Dolgopolov (Ukr)

20. Richard Gasquet (Fra)

Other Britons in top 400:

154. James Ward

196. Jamie Baker

218. Josh Goodall

374. Alex Bogdanovic

376. Richard Bloomfield

377. Daniel Evans

385. Alexander Ward

398. Daniel Smethurst
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