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#41 Posted : 14 November 2010 22:32:13(UTC)
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NickR wrote:

Maunder Minimum wrote:

The Beast from the East wrote:

Gavin P wrote:

YouGov/Sunday Times

Con 39% Lab 41% Lib-Dem 10% Con Lead -2

Statistical tie of course. 40/40/10 seems to be solid for YouGov for the time being. ICM always seem to give higher ratings for the Lib Dems.

(BTW, shouldn't you say Lab Lead +2)?

 

 

It is only absolute and craven ignorance which is giving Labour its current poll position. Labour currently has no policies for dealing with our fiscal catastrophe:

Johnson rejects Miliband on tax

 

Oh, give over MM! Dave and his crew had no policies for years when they were well up in the polls. I didn't see such posts from you then. It's called the luxury of being in opposition. 

Matthew Parris got it right in his column on Sat by saying our leaders rarely know where they are heading or where they want to be heading.

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#42 Posted : 14 November 2010 22:36:41(UTC)
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NickR wrote:

Maunder Minimum wrote:

The Beast from the East wrote:

Gavin P wrote:

YouGov/Sunday Times

Con 39% Lab 41% Lib-Dem 10% Con Lead -2

Statistical tie of course. 40/40/10 seems to be solid for YouGov for the time being. ICM always seem to give higher ratings for the Lib Dems.

(BTW, shouldn't you say Lab Lead +2)?

 

 

It is only absolute and craven ignorance which is giving Labour its current poll position. Labour currently has no policies for dealing with our fiscal catastrophe:

Johnson rejects Miliband on tax

 

Oh, give over MM! Dave and his crew had no policies for years when they were well up in the polls. I didn't see such posts from you then. It's called the luxury of being in opposition.  

The problem is that fiscal consolidation is inevitable, necessary and desirable. Many people don't appreciate just what a mess we are in and the hard choices which are completely necessary to deal with it. It is like being at war, but without the fighting.

Public spending cuts now, are a result of Brown's lack of prudence as Chancellor and PM.
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#43 Posted : 20 November 2010 22:34:58(UTC)
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Couple of new polls tonight;

ComRes/IoS

Con 37% Lab 38% Lib-Dem 13% Lab Lead 1%

YouGov/Sunday Times

Con 40% Lab 38% Lib-Dem 11% Con Lead 2%

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#44 Posted : 20 November 2010 23:29:32(UTC)
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Polls seem very stable for the past 2 months. I don't think much will change until we see the impact of the spending cuts

 

 

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#45 Posted : 21 November 2010 06:47:49(UTC)
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The Beast from the East wrote:

Polls seem very stable for the past 2 months. I don't think much will change until we see the impact of the spending cuts

 

 

Polls are completely meaningless at the moment - everybody is waiting to see how things fall out.

Interestibng thought, since this is a weather site - if we get a very harsh winter, I wonder how that will impact everything.

Supposing we run out of salt to grit the roads, as nearly happened last winter? Supposing there are power cuts and disruption? Supposing there is an economic downturn because of the impact of the weather?

People are fickle and will blame the Government of the day, even when the circumstances are outside its control.

Public spending cuts now, are a result of Brown's lack of prudence as Chancellor and PM.
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#46 Posted : 21 November 2010 09:58:22(UTC)
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During last winters severe spell in early January the Lib-Dems seemed to get a boost with the phone pollsters as more public sector workers were at home. This time I would imagine that boost would go to Labour.

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#47 Posted : 21 November 2010 21:54:09(UTC)
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Maunder Minimum wrote:
People are fickle and will blame the Government of the day, even when the circumstances are outside its control.

I'm glad you belatedly recognise this [*cough* a global banking crisis caused the recession *cough*]


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#48 Posted : 22 November 2010 08:09:18(UTC)
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Saint Snow wrote:

Maunder Minimum wrote:
People are fickle and will blame the Government of the day, even when the circumstances are outside its control.

I'm glad you belatedly recognise this [*cough* a global banking crisis caused the recession *cough*]

Back to this one eh? The global banking crisis did indeed trigger the recession - however, this country was in a very bad place to deal with it when it came, because of the spendthrift policies of the last government.

Public spending cuts now, are a result of Brown's lack of prudence as Chancellor and PM.
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#49 Posted : 22 November 2010 23:43:39(UTC)
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Labour 2 points ahead in latest ECM Guardian Poll.

 

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#50 Posted : 23 November 2010 08:23:37(UTC)
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Labour 2 points ahead in latest ECM Guardian Poll.

 

Just froth. Did you watch Newsnight last night? Found it quite interesting - in particular that many Labour MPs are feeling uneasy about Ed's leadership - they obviously know that their current position is built on sand.

Public spending cuts now, are a result of Brown's lack of prudence as Chancellor and PM.
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#51 Posted : 23 November 2010 10:54:47(UTC)
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Just froth. Did you watch Newsnight last night? Found it quite interesting - in particular that many Labour MPs are feeling uneasy about Ed's leadership - they obviously know that their current position is built on sand.

Yes. funny when Johnson said"Red" instead of Ed.

You're right that Labour needs a clear message to sell. At the moment they are just benefitting from being the opposition party - however that worked for Dave at the last election (just about) and the US Republicans!

Here's the details of the ICM poll

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/nov/22/labour-pulls-ahead-guardian-icm-poll

 

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#52 Posted : 07 December 2010 00:14:56(UTC)
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Todays News International/YouGov poll shows;

Con 42% Lab 39% Lib-Dem 10% Con Lead 3%

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#53 Posted : 07 December 2010 07:53:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Todays News International/YouGov poll shows;

Con 42% Lab 39% Lib-Dem 10% Con Lead 3%

Impact of Lib Dem contortions over tuition fees starting to bite perhaps

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#54 Posted : 07 December 2010 08:33:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Martyn Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Todays News International/YouGov poll shows;

Con 42% Lab 39% Lib-Dem 10% Con Lead 3%

Impact of Lib Dem contortions over tuition fees starting to bite perhaps

 

If this is  the extent of Nu ? Labour's new leadership "bounce", they are in serious trouble, especially given some of the unpopular  "austerity"  measures that the coalition have brought forward.  IF (admittedly a big one)  the economy picks up in 2 or 3 years time, Labour could be out of office for a generation.

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#55 Posted : 07 December 2010 23:02:51(UTC)
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To be fair, YouGob is consistently giving the Conservatives the biggest vote shares. Most other pollsters have Labour in the lead and the Tories in the mid or high's 30's. But yes, I'm quite surprised Labour doesn't have more of a lead to be honest.

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#56 Posted : 12 December 2010 22:55:30(UTC)
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I'd say Naughtie had it just about right first time...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/dec/11/jeremy-hunt-bbc-political-bias


"In an interview with the Observer, Hunt said it was clear to most people that more BBC employees would vote Labour or Lib Dem than Conservative. He also said that the corporation had been out of touch with public opinion in the recent past and shown leftwing bias on issues such as Europe, immigration and Northern Ireland."

 

.........like the rest of us in the UK.

Someone needs to tell him that his poxy party only managed 36% of the popular vote, and that set against a lame-duck, busted, imploding NL in the depths of the worst recession since......

Whereas 52% of the electorate voted Labour/LibDem.

What a plum....

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#57 Posted : 14 December 2010 00:01:22(UTC)
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YouGov/News International

Con 41% Lab 42% Lib-Dem 9% Lab Lead 1%

Govt approval -14

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#58 Posted : 14 December 2010 22:54:03(UTC)
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MORI

Con 38% Lab 39% Lib-Dem 11% Lab Lead 1%

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#59 Posted : 19 December 2010 20:01:43(UTC)
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Latest ComRes poll has Labour still narrowly ahead. Only 38% think Dave is a good leader. Basically only Tory voters! Rather pathetic and unheard of for a PM who has only just been elected.
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#60 Posted : 20 December 2010 23:04:30(UTC)
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ICM/Guardian

Con 37% Lab 39% Lib-Dem 11% Lab Lead 2%

They also have a question about AV which is interesting. Apparently the YES campaign have 6% lead with 44% saying they would support AV against 38% saying they wouldn't.

We can expect to see many more of these kinds of referendum polls early next year.

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