I wonder what the odds are for Spain to retain the World cup in 2014?

As for last night a master class in Football by the Spanish,no team would

have beaten Spain last night.

I think Spain have the best defence in football history they haven't conceded a goal in the knockout stages of the 3 tournaments they have won. Surely this will never happen again a truly amazing achievement. For me Brazil 1970 is the best attacking side of all time.

Audience figures for the final 15.7m amazing for a match not involving England. BBC had 13.4m and ITV only got 2.3m Doh!

Audience figures for the final 15.7m amazing for a match not involving England. BBC had 13.4m and ITV only got 2.3m Doh!

Audience figures for the final 15.7m amazing for a match not involving England. BBC had 13.4m and ITV only got 2.3m Doh!

I presume ITV was commentated by Clive Tyldesley? If so, there's your reason.

How can you not love 'red' clive?! 

Audience figures for the final 15.7m amazing for a match not involving England. BBC had 13.4m and ITV only got 2.3m Doh!

I presume ITV was commentated by Clive Tyldesley? If so, there's your reason.

How can you not love 'red' clive?! 

Aha, that probably explains why he's such a twat.

BBC were far superior ! I find Adrian Chiles so annoying to the point he makes my blood boil and his team of Carragher,Keane and Southgate 2 of which are hard to understand and the other as inspiring as a loaf of bread.

To be honest i just turned the sound off altogether, the BBC studio pundits were far superior but I would put Mark Lawrenson above the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Saddam and Obama for people whom I loathe the most

BBC were far superior ! I find Adrian Chiles so annoying to the point he makes my blood boil and his team of Carragher,Keane and Southgate 2 of which are hard to understand and the other as inspiring as a loaf of bread.

The BBC's studio pundits were absolutely fine IMO, but Guy Mowbray is a poor commentator IMO- little, in indeed any better than his counterpart on ITV on Sunday night. Clive Tyldesley isn't great I admit, but his voice isn't half as annoying. Why can't they get commentators these days like the late, great Brian Moore (best football commentator ever IMO)?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18703497

 - Really? No wonder all the bodies that run the game are so out of touch. 4th? maybe from the bottom, but seriously! how can anyone judge us as that good

It's a farce isn't it, we were nowhere near 4th best in the tournament, let alone the world

I hadn't realised Scotland still had a national team.

I would hav
1 spain obviously
2 Germany still
3 Portugal
4 Italy
7 England

on last tornament anyways

I would hav
1 spain obviously
2 Germany still
3 Portugal
4 Italy
7 England

on last tornament anyways

Am I the only one who read that as:

1) would hav

and thought 'who's that team from would hav, they're good'

Now that the Euros have finished, I'm going to lock this thread and move it to the classic threads forum. Thanks for all your contributions!