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Offline Col  
#981 Posted : 21 July 2022 13:07:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

 Yes!  I think it was the extent of the heat that made this so remarkable and is what it should be remembered for, because previous records have been quite localised.

This is very true but let's not forget that the overall record was broken by a massive 1.6C. Now for a reliable record of around 150 years that's a huge jump. In an essentially stable climate in that time period we should surely only be expecting records in mere increments, a tenth of a degree here, a couple of tenths there and even then only ocurring every few decades.This is even bigger than the jump between 1990 and 2003 which was in itself was a remarkable 1.4C. Amazing to think that prior to 1990 we hadn't even hit 37C.

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#982 Posted : 21 July 2022 13:23:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Col Go to Quoted Post

 

This is very true but let's not forget that the overall record was broken by a massive 1.6C. Now for a reliable record of around 150 years that's a huge jump. In an essentially stable climate in that time period we should surely only be expecting records in mere increments, a tenth of a degree here, a couple of tenths there and even then only ocurring every few decades.This is even bigger than the jump between 1990 and 2003 which was in itself was a remarkable 1.4C. Amazing to think that prior to 1990 we hadn't even hit 37C.

  You’re absolutely right, of course!  Two things it should be remembered for and they are no doubt related, as I would think a large area of high temperatures would lose less heat from mixing with cooler air.   

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Offline Tim A  
#983 Posted : 21 July 2022 13:37:49(UTC)
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It was just incredible and such a jump.

E.g

Coningsby beat it's previously warmest temperature by 5.5c.

Officially, the temperature (37.4) at Bingley at 262m on a windswept Pennine Moor (not a warm place at all normally!) was higher than anywhere else in the UK had experienced until 2003.

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#984 Posted : 21 July 2022 15:07:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Tim A Go to Quoted Post
It was just incredible and such a jump.

E.g
Coningsby beat it's previously warmest temperature by 5.5c.
Officially, the temperature (37.4) at Bingley at 262m on a windswept Pennine Moor (not a warm place at all normally!) was higher than anywhere else in the UK had experienced until 2003.

37.4C at Bingley is perhaps the most impressive result of them all. Simply incredible. 

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#985 Posted : 21 July 2022 15:14:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Tim A Go to Quoted Post
It was just incredible and such a jump.

E.g
Coningsby beat it's previously warmest temperature by 5.5c.
Officially, the temperature (37.4) at Bingley at 262m on a windswept Pennine Moor (not a warm place at all normally!) was higher than anywhere else in the UK had experienced until 2003.

Bingley has a higher record temperature than cities like Bristol and Southampton now

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#986 Posted : 21 July 2022 18:53:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 Go to Quoted Post

 

Bingley has a higher record temperature than cities like Bristol and Southampton now

 Yes, down here it did not get that hot in comparison to further north. . Only up to 34c on the monday here.. Bit strange really as the heat was coming from the south. . 

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#987 Posted : 21 July 2022 20:26:36(UTC)
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Maybe in years to come it will be one of those "do you remember where you were when it happened" moments.
At least it will be mild!
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#988 Posted : 21 July 2022 20:36:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: westv Go to Quoted Post
Maybe in years to come it will be one of those "do you remember where you were when it happened" moments.

The rate things are changing the answer might be…..Earth?

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Offline Whether Idle  
#989 Posted : 22 July 2022 01:09:33(UTC)
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Still warm here tonight hence middle of the night post! Minimum on 19th was 17.1c.  Classic downland valley adiabatic cooling profile - the cool air was greedily taken in and trapped.  Just as well - because whilst Langdon Bay atop a 400ft cliff achieved 37 that afternoon around 4pm, this sheltered valley location achieved a VP2 high of 39.8c - an all time record.  A summer temperature differential of 3c is quite normal due the extreme nature of the Langdon Bay site (atop a cliff - and then up a pole to reach 400ft).

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#990 Posted : 22 July 2022 06:34:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Whether Idle Go to Quoted Post

Still warm here tonight hence middle of the night post! Minimum on 19th was 17.1c.  Classic downland valley adiabatic cooling profile - the cool air was greedily taken in and trapped.  Just as well - because whilst Langdon Bay atop a 400ft cliff achieved 37 that afternoon around 4pm, this sheltered valley location achieved a VP2 high of 39.8c - an all time record.  A summer temperature differential of 3c is quite normal due the extreme nature of the Langdon Bay site (atop a cliff - and then up a pole to reach 400ft).

39.8c...you must be gutted to not have reached 40c 

A perfectly plausible temperature Phil. The cold that sat in the valley at 6am would have just as easily trapped in the heat at 4pm.

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#991 Posted : 22 July 2022 08:11:20(UTC)
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Does anyone know a good* site where it gives previous days weather data/temperature, please?


*i.e, preferbly not Wunderground. Some sites gives weather data/temperatures of nearest airport/airfield rather than the actual location (like Sheffield actually gives Doncaster)!

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#992 Posted : 22 July 2022 10:54:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora Go to Quoted Post

Does anyone know a good* site where it gives previous days weather data/temperature, please?


*i.e, preferbly not Wunderground. Some sites gives weather data/temperatures of nearest airport/airfield rather than the actual location (like Sheffield actually gives Doncaster)!

Ogimet is a great site for data from the main UK weather station network.

Or Weatherobs has a wider network including all the more obscure stations.

For Sheffield weather station you need weatherobs.com.

 

Zoom in on the map and click the Sheffield station, then "open dashboard" for all the historic data.

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Offline Whether Idle  
#993 Posted : 22 July 2022 13:19:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gusty Go to Quoted Post

 

39.8c...you must be gutted to not have reached 40c 

A perfectly plausible temperature Phil. The cold that sat in the valley at 6am would have just as easily trapped in the heat at 4pm.

Didn’t mind Steve  it’s just a matter of time  Global Warming is accelerating so fast that it could be August 2022 or June 2025 but it will come  

 

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#994 Posted : 22 July 2022 18:24:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rob K Go to Quoted Post

 

Ogimet is a great site for data from the main UK weather station network.

Or Weatherobs has a wider network including all the more obscure stations.

For Sheffield weather station you need weatherobs.com.

 

Zoom in on the map and click the Sheffield station, then "open dashboard" for all the historic data.

Cheers Rob.

Offline Rob K  
#995 Posted : 24 July 2022 09:44:08(UTC)
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Great writeup from the Met: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/metofficegovuk/pdf/weather/learn-about/uk-past-events/interesting/2022/2022_03_july_heatwave.pdf

 

They make it 46 sites equalling or breaking the previous record, so I missed a couple :)

I see that the top temp for Monday 18th has been revised upwards to 38.2C at Pitsford, Northants, just beating Santon Downham. Still no data from Denver in Norfolk that I can see, so that may be a wait until 1 August!

Edited by user 24 July 2022 09:59:29(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#996 Posted : 27 July 2022 18:52:45(UTC)
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This graphic is immense.

https://twitter.com/danh...t=rD22zPKI14WTHb8A0PXbWA

It picks up that loss of momentum in the 12/13 July. And then it just exploded after that again.

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#997 Posted : 28 July 2022 15:53:31(UTC)
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#998 Posted : 28 July 2022 19:37:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 Go to Quoted Post
Embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/bbcweather/status/1552674667395178496?s=21&t=TiPG13VUbhaP1DoKSTR1dA

Not another Ice Cream van?😄

Coningsby 40.3c has been officially confirmed though.👍

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Offline Col  
#999 Posted : 29 July 2022 03:14:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 Go to Quoted Post
Embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/bbcweather/status/1552674667395178496?s=21&t=TiPG13VUbhaP1DoKSTR1dA

Why is that embarrassing? Surely all records are 'provisional' until they have been officially verified. This is the Met Office doing it's job properly in rejecting readings form sites that don't meet the current standards.

Embarrassing for whoever is responsible for running that site though.

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#1000 Posted : 29 July 2022 04:54:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Col Go to Quoted Post

 

Why is that embarrassing? Surely all records are 'provisional' until they have been officially verified. This is the Met Office doing it's job properly in rejecting readings form sites that don't meet the current standards.

Embarrassing for whoever is responsible for running that site though.

Thats what I meant. Sorry I should have been clearer. 

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