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This thread is for all comments, discussion, and analysis of temperatures in the UK during May, with particular emphasis on the Central England Temperature (CET), for the simple reason that it is the longest-running temperature series in the world with over 360 years of data. But you can comment on any interesting temperature statistics or data from across the UK, including your own backyard. For those taking part in the competition, all CET predictions for May should be sent directly to me via the forum private message system. Please do not post them directly into the thread. Historic CET summary for May 1981-2010 (30 years) 11.66C 1991-2020 (30 years) 11.90C 2001-2020 (20 years) 12.02C Last May was fairly chilly with a CET of just 10.1C. Prior to that 4 of the previous 5 years saw a CET above 12C with the highest being 13.3C in 2018. Here is a chart of the May CET for all years since 1961 Direct link to a larger version of the chart Current model output GEFS - the extended run from 0z on 30 April shows the GEFS mean above average every day from the 4th. That is very unusual and suggests a good chance of a fairly warm month. https://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49069&model=gfs&var=2&run=99&lid=ENS&bw= https://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49069&model=gfs&var=5&run=99&lid=ENS&bw= ECM (for de Bilt) shows a rather cool first week with something potentially warmer after that. Lots of scatter by the middle of the month but one or two runs do reach 30C surface temperature. The control run stays average / cool though. https://www.weerplaza.nl/gdata/eps/eps_pluim_tt_06260.png Met Office contingency planners outlook https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/metofficegovuk/pdf/business/public-sector/civil-contingency/3moutlook-mjj-v2.pdf No one month summary this time. Really strange that Met O sometimes has a one month and 3 month summary in the contingency planners outlook and sometimes just has a 3 month summary. The 3 month outlook suggests only a 10% chance of cool weather. Rainfall shows little deviation from average in terms of probability. Very little narrative commentary this month. Edited by moderator 30 June 2022 14:44:11(UTC)
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Met Office Hadley 10.9c Anomaly 1.5c provisional to 1st Metcheck 10.39c Anomaly -1.02c Netweather 11.03c Anomaly -0.28c Peasedown St John 9.6c Anomaly -2.0c. |
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Met Office Hadley 11.4c Anomaly 2.0c provisional to 2nd Metcheck 10.81c Anomaly -0.60c Netweather 11.47c Anomaly 0.18c Peasedown St John 10.2c Anomaly -1.4c. |
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It will be interesting to see the predictions for this month. I have gone for a warm/hot May at over 13c Ive a feeling this month and June are going to be the best months of the summer season.
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Originally Posted by: springsunshine  It will be interesting to see the predictions for this month. I have gone for a warm/hot May at over 13c Ive a feeling this month and June are going to be the best months of the summer season. I've gone for 'warmish', but am already thinking it's going to be too low (and I'm sure I'll be near the bottom of the prediction pile) |
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Originally Posted by: Saint Snow  I've gone for 'warmish', but am already thinking it's going to be too low (and I'm sure I'll be near the bottom of the prediction pile) I've gone for 12.0C reckon I might have gone too low now.  Just looked up - The all time record for May is 15.1C in 1833. In some ways I reckon that's ripe for picking. |
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Originally Posted by: Saint Snow  I've gone for 'warmish', but am already thinking it's going to be too low (and I'm sure I'll be near the bottom of the prediction pile) Me too and I already have the same worry as you. Even chilly Stonyhurst is looking quite warm with mild nights - which is often the crucial factor. Of course, model output and forecasts can change quite quickly so still very early days Edited by user 04 May 2022 16:42:05(UTC)
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The May and June record are both ripe for picking. Both pre 20th century artefacts now and with modern background warming and the same kind of synoptics they would surely be blown out of the water
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The outlook can change quickly of course but atm it looks very warm. Wonder if anyone went for 14c+? |
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Met Office Hadley 11.4c Anomaly 1.9c provisional to 3rd Metcheck 10.73c Anomaly -0.67c Netweather 11.37c Anomaly 0.08c Peasedown St John 10.97c Anomaly -0.63c. |
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Mey Office Hadley 11.7c Anomaly 2.0c provisional to 4th Metcheck 10.77c Anomaly -0.64c Netweather 11.51c Anomaly 0.21c Peasedown St john 10.74c Anomaly -0.86c. |
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Originally Posted by: Spring Sun Winter Dread  The May and June record are both ripe for picking. Both pre 20th century artefacts now and with modern background warming and the same kind of synoptics they would surely be blown out of the water 18.2C For June - which was in 1846. That's quite a nut to crack. But these days almost anything is possible. |
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17C in 1976 is really quite a long way off that and it remains our benchmark for hot Junes. September 2006 at 16.8C was hotter than any June since The mega June which starts hot and stays hot, perhaps with a few thundery interludes and muggy nights to inflate the minima, is surely coming at some point....
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Met Office Hadley 11.9c Anomaly 2.1c provisional to 5th Metcheck 11.26c Anomaly -0.14c Netweather 11.81c Anomaly 0.52c Peasewdown St John 11.72c Anomaly 1.12c. |
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Met Office Hadley 12.1c Anomaly 2.2c provisional to 6th Metcheck 11.62c Anomaly 0.22c Netweather 12.13c Anomaly 0.84c Peasedown St John 11.95c Anomaly 0.35c. |
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Originally Posted by: Spring Sun Winter Dread  17C in 1976 is really quite a long way off that and it remains our benchmark for hot Junes. September 2006 at 16.8C was hotter than any June since The mega June which starts hot and stays hot, perhaps with a few thundery interludes and muggy nights to inflate the minima, is surely coming at some point.... After December 2015 and the ease of which we are recording above average CETs, there's a few months that I think are bound to smash their records at some point. March is one... the record is 9.2, and considering we had a December of 9.7, I think a double figure March is well within the realm of possibilty. May is another. The record is 15.1 (I think), yet recently we seem to stall in the low 13s. It's only a matter of time before that is smashed. October as well... |
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Yep Oct 2001 was a really lacklustre record breaker aswell being mostly dull and wet with some flooding in places. I remember being surprised to hear on the news that it had beaten the CET record (this competition not being a thing then )... It was mainly the minima that pushed it past the much more pleasant month in 1995 . Would be good to see a sunny and dry one take its place
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Met Office Hadley 12.3c Anomaly 2.3c provisional to 7th Metcheck 11.69c Anomaly 0.28c Netweather 12.33c Anomaly 1.04c Peasedown St John 12.2c Anomaly 0.6c. |
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Originally Posted by: Bolty  After December 2015 and the ease of which we are recording above average CETs, there's a few months that I think are bound to smash their records at some point. March is one... the record is 9.2, and considering we had a December of 9.7, I think a double figure March is well within the realm of possibilty. May is another. The record is 15.1 (I think), yet recently we seem to stall in the low 13s. It's only a matter of time before that is smashed. October as well... I agree- though not necessarily with the same months. With a 9.7C December,November should surely be able to manage 2 degrees up on that- the feeble 10.1 in 1994 is only a tad up on the December record. But 15 in May and 18 in June will be very hard nuts to crack, I reckon. A July 20+ is more likely. That said, only 1994's November was warmer than Dec15, reflecting how totally exceptional that month was. |
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