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Jiries
24 May 2023 08:39:54
The current SSW that destroyed Spring for us here now causing unseasonable cool and wet weather in the Med which moved east to hit Cyprus with lot of rain and storms yesterday and after the rain hit in Nicosia from the max of 26c fell to 19C at 4pm so that jolly cool for late May.  Lowest May max in the past was 16C at the early stage of the month but unheard to be near end of the month.  More rain forecast there and unseasonable cool as low as 5C below average to mid 20's,.  Normally May average start at 27C to 33C by end of the month so that overall mean average is 30C. 
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polarwind
25 May 2023 20:51:46
Originally Posted by: Jiries 

The current SSW that destroyed Spring for us here now causing unseasonable cool and wet weather in the Med which moved east to hit Cyprus with lot of rain and storms yesterday and after the rain hit in Nicosia from the max of 26c fell to 19C at 4pm so that jolly cool for late May.  Lowest May max in the past was 16C at the early stage of the month but unheard to be near end of the month.  More rain forecast there and unseasonable cool as low as 5C below average to mid 20's,.  Normally May average start at 27C to 33C by end of the month so that overall mean average is 30C. 



Earlier, I observed that in IMO, since last November, the general circulation in the North Atlantic resembled that of the 60's and 70's.
And I don't think its changed much recently.
So..... what were May temperatures like in the Med then?
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25 May 2023 21:13:35
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Jiries
25 May 2023 21:46:47
Originally Posted by: polarwind 

Earlier, I observed that in IMO, since last November, the general circulation in the North Atlantic resembled that of the 60's and 70's.
And I don't think its changed much recently.
So..... what were May temperatures like in the Med then?



I think used to be 27C in Nicosia in May in the 60's then 28C in the 70's, 20C in the 80;s and 90s then 30C in 00's to 10s then his decade 32C but this year up to date drop back to 29C.  So sure that the rest of the med was 3-4C cooler in the past. 
polarwind
29 May 2023 09:44:30
Originally Posted by: Jiries 

I think used to be 27C in Nicosia in May in the 60's then 28C in the 70's, 20C in the 80;s and 90s then 30C in 00's to 10s then his decade 32C but this year up to date drop back to 29C.  So sure that the rest of the med was 3-4C cooler in the past. 

Yes, cooler in the 60' and 70's, than in more recent times.
The general N. Atlantic circulation pattern of recent months, and in particular, the near position of the Azores High to the SW of us, increases the frequency of Northerly and cooler winds into the Mediterranean and the attendant low pressure systems and heavy rain and which some areas have recently witnessed.
I wonder whether floods in the Med. were more common in the 60's and 70's when the Azores High was similarly positioned as of now?
I'm not forgetting of course that there are other circulation patterns that can lead to storms.
I also wonder if the present circulation pattern were to continue, temperatures in the Med. would return to near 60's, 70's levels?
 
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