Surrey John
10 October 2021 17:48:24
I see the ensemble plots on front page are now showing a cold snap in about 10 days time.
One to watch

Even the snow rows are not zero (although not enough to get excited about)



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CField
10 October 2021 18:27:59

Originally Posted by: Col 


 


Have I read this correctly, you actually want power cuts?!?


No I don't but a severe prolonged cold snap will put tremendous  pressure on the grid....be ironic if the UK suffers this outcome ontop of everything else........


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Justin W
11 October 2021 06:26:57

Originally Posted by: Col 


 


Have I read this correctly, you actually want power cuts?!?



We love power cuts here. It would be an amazing result if the lights went out during the most severe winter for 40 years.


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11 October 2021 07:48:00

wx summary temps for UK as yesterday but the colder weather has increased week 2 in Scandi. Ditto the rainfall pattern


UK (esp the SW) still benefiting from atlantic mildness while most of Europe below seasonal temp; and some proper wintry stuff around Lapland in week 2 though perhaps not out of the way there. Dry for Uk week 1, damp in week 2


GFS- HP over Uk (albeit with some colder N-lies down the N Sea at first) until Mon 18th when declining as LP on Atlantic generates SW-lies and moves past shetland 980 mb as it deepens over scandi Wed 20th . then new ridge of HP NW-SE but not string enough to keep out N=lies from that LP which affect esp E coasts to Weds 27th


GEFS - temps of mean within 2 or 3 C of norm , up around Tue 19th, down around Sat 23rd, (op & control several degrees below) rain continual from about Tue 19th. Scotland has a burst of cold and wet on Fri 15th.


ECM - like GFS at first, but pressure remains low over Atlantic Wed 20th so more of a W-ly than a N-ly at that time


 


Snow row figures in occasional 1's and 2's in the E and N in week 2, but Inverness showing 5-9 on several days


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Taylor1740
11 October 2021 15:05:34
The GEFS are definitely on the cool side of average now for the final third of the month but of course still a long way out, plenty of time for that to change.
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12 October 2021 06:58:00

Wx temp patterns remain consistent from day to day with the UK on the mild Atlantic fringe of a below-average pool of cold weather in Europe. Northern Scandi & Russia in week 2 developing some seasonably cold weather. Rainfall pattern more variable - currently damp for UK both weeks with increasing amounts of rain blowing in from the NW and across to N Europe in week 2


Jet - current loop to N of UK breaking up and being replaced by strong jet from W or SW from Mon 18th; brief break Mon 25th as it forms a loop to the S but soon resuming


GFS - current HP weakening and moving SE allowing Atlantic troughs to approach from Mon 18th - zonal flow with deeper disturbances from time to time e.g.  975mb Wed 20th  985mb Sat 23rd, 975mb Thu 28th all centred  Hebrides, while pressure still fairly high over the SE


GEFS - temps up (esp 19th) and down (esp 15th)but reverting to norm later. Rain generally from about Mon 18th, a bit earlier in the N, a bit later in the S


ECM - Similar pattern to GFS but LP Wed 20th positioned over Ireland and trailing a trough much further S (Which didn't show on yesterday's ECM 12z) which slowly progresses across England


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Taylor1740
12 October 2021 09:56:53
Charts starting to look a bit boring and zonal now in the longer range. Still far too early anyway for any wintry weather.
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Russwirral
12 October 2021 15:40:51

Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 

Charts starting to look a bit boring and zonal now in the longer range. Still far too early anyway for any wintry weather.


 


Yeh I thought that too when i checked this morning, but then the odd run after it seems HP and blocking comes back in to the picture.


 


Not sure if this is just a default setting after the summer, but its usually about now that all hope is dashed and replaced with the atlantic firing up...


 


 


Chunky Pea
12 October 2021 17:08:54

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


We love power cuts here. It would be an amazing result if the lights went out during the most severe winter for 40 years.



Love power cuts during winter storms too, not that we have had any winter storms in about 20 + years. 


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12 October 2021 17:58:02
I have to say that I don’t like how the PV is getting organised. But I suppose better to get the guff out the way.
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White Meadows
12 October 2021 21:00:22

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


 


Love power cuts during winter storms too, not that we have had any winter storms in about 20 + years. 


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13 October 2021 06:30:11

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


 


Love power cuts during winter storms too, not that we have had any winter storms in about 20 + years. 



And more recently storm Ciara demolished several hundred yards of sea wall just down the road from us at Littlehampton in 2020


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13 October 2021 07:00:57

wx summaries show most of Europe returning to seasonal temps or even a little above while the cold pool moves down to the Balkans. Some cold stuff in the far N, too. Lots of rain on the Atlantic, affecting NW fringes of Europe incl UK week 1 and then more generally extending a tongue across Europe week 2.


Jet - Not much action around the UK at first but a meandering stream across the British Isles from Tue 19th for most of that week dispersing somewhat around Sun 24th then a quick blast before dispersing again Fri 29th


GFS - current HP drifting SE and centred Switzerland Mon 18th while large area of LP sets up a zonal flow as it moves across to Scandi by Fri 22nd (v. windy everywhere at closest approach on the Thu). The following week has HP to the S and LP to the N competing for dominance with W-ly or SW-ly winds sandwiched between


GEFS - a bump of warmth around Tue 19th (preceded by a brief dip in the N) but otherwise mostly close to norm. Rain starts about that date and continues, persistent but not too heavy in the S,  rather more in the NW


ECM - resembles GFS but less windy on Thu 21st, gales replaced by a trailing trough extending as far S as the Channel


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idj20
13 October 2021 08:08:01

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


 


Love power cuts during winter storms too, not that we have had any winter storms in about 20 + years. 



You either live in a storm-free shield or have a short memory, or you don't think the Winter of 2013-2014 was stormy enough. That was the most active winter in terms of storminess with widespread flooding and the sea wall at Dawlish being smashed apart, it was relentless with cyclogenesis occurring over the UK one after the other for weeks on end. Never want to see anything like that again in this lifetime.


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doctormog
13 October 2021 08:26:51

Originally Posted by: idj20 


 


You either live in a storm-free shield or have a short memory, or you don't think the Winter of 2013-2014 was stormy enough. That was the most active winter in terms of storminess with widespread flooding and the sea wall at Dawlish being smashed apart, it was relentless with cyclogenesis occurring over the UK one after the other for weeks on end. Never want to see anything like that again in this lifetime.



Winter 2015-16 was also another horribly stormy and damaging season.


ozone_aurora
13 October 2021 08:51:03

If I was to make a wild guess, I suspect this winter will most likely to be a wet & stormy one, just as would like a cold, snowy one.

Hate wet & stormy winters.

Hungry Tiger
13 October 2021 10:03:43

Without meaning to go OT - I've heard fwiw that winter this year will be a cold December followed by a mild and wet January and February.


 


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Chunky Pea
13 October 2021 13:42:27

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


Pull the other one! Trees down on our road Jan 2013



I'm talking about storms, not bog standard winter gales. Slapping a name on them does not make them more than what they are. 


2013-2014 was a relatively boisterous season (when it eventually did get going) but I've seen better. Certainly here in the W/NW region of Ireland at least.  I do think southern regions of the UK bore the brunt that year, which is an oddity in itself. 


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Saint Snow
13 October 2021 13:47:08

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Without meaning to go OT - I've heard fwiw that winter this year will be a cold December followed by a mild and wet January and February.


 



 


 


You been reading the Express again? 



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Hungry Tiger
13 October 2021 13:52:20

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


 


You been reading the Express again? 



God forbid no. It was a facebook weather forecast site. In fact usually quite a good one.


 


 


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