Bertwhistle
02 August 2020 12:16:48

Could more date records fall on 7th and 8th August?


The latest televised Beeb forecast offered a general 35 in the SE at the end of the week.


The Met) suggests 36 Friday and 35 Saturday.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcpsvg3nc#?date=2020-08-02


The current records I think are 34.0 and 34.2, both from 1975 (unless this Torro record has been updated since).


http://www.torro.org.uk/hightempsyear.php


Interesting week ahead.


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Bertwhistle
02 August 2020 12:21:58

Just noticed Kew is given 36, 35 and Northolt 35 both days, so not just Heathrow.


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Hungry Tiger
02 August 2020 13:33:38

Just pop these on for you. Some rrecord maxes in neighbouring European Continent. Notice most of them are recent as well.


 








Some weather factoids for you. πŸ™‚ Whilst we're in the midst of a hot spell. Worth listing the highest temps recorded here and in the neighbouring European Continent.

Highest temps.



UK. 38.7C July 25th. 2019. Cambridge University Botanical Gardens.



France. 45.9C June 28th. 2019. Gallargues-le-Montueux.



Portugal. 47.4C August 1st. 2003. Amaraleja, Beja.



Spain. 47.3C July 13th. 2017. Montor, Cordoba.



Belgium. 41.8C July 25th. 2019. Begijnendijk, Flemish Brabant.



Holland. 40.7C July 25th. 2019. Gilze en Rijen.



Germany. 42.6C July 25th. 2019. Lingen, Lower Saxony.



Italy. 47.0C June 25th. 2007. Foggia, Apulia.



Cyprus. 45.6C August 1st 2010. Nicosia.







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Bertwhistle
02 August 2020 15:09:49

MetO now showing 36°C for Heathrow and Kew both Friday and Saturday.


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TimS
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02 August 2020 15:32:05
Here are the successive daily maxes from August 2003, for comparison purposes. From the 3rd:

30.5, 32.5, 33.9, 35.7, 31.6, 32.3, 36.0, 38.5, 34.7, 32.0.

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Bertwhistle
02 August 2020 16:03:04

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Here are the successive daily maxes from August 2003, for comparison purposes. From the 3rd:

30.5, 32.5, 33.9, 35.7, 31.6, 32.3, 36.0, 38.5, 34.7, 32.0.


The 'dip' (if it could ever be called such) just happens to coincide with our two predicted hottest days. Most fortuitous. But at 5 and 6 days out, not by any means a sure thing.


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Hungry Tiger
02 August 2020 18:51:06

Look East have downgraded it - Forecast 29C for Friday and 27C for Saturday. Not sure what to make of that.


 


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Rob K
02 August 2020 19:16:57

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Look East have downgraded it - Forecast 29C for Friday and 27C for Saturday. Not sure what to make of that.


 



The models seem to have moderated the heat somewhat, 850s only around 15-16C rather than the 20C+ of yesterday. 


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Bertwhistle
02 August 2020 20:06:33

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


The models seem to have moderated the heat somewhat, 850s only around 15-16C rather than the 20C+ of yesterday. 



And yet, MetO and Beeb still standing squarely by earlier predictions.


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Ally Pally Snowman
02 August 2020 20:49:56

Arpege latest has 33c in SE on Thursday.


 


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Brian Gaze
02 August 2020 21:03:59

GFSP looks potentially record breaking on Friday and Saturday.



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Rob K
02 August 2020 22:55:51

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Arpege latest has 33c in SE on Thursday.


 



Arpege seems to do pretty well with max temps so will be interesting to watch what it has once Friday and Saturday come into range. 


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Bertwhistle
03 August 2020 07:39:59

MetO holding on to a 36,35 this morning for both Kew and Heathrow.


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Ally Pally Snowman
03 August 2020 14:55:59

Met office going for 37c on Friday. Info on their Twitter feed.


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Ally Pally Snowman
03 August 2020 16:44:17

Latest Arpege now has 29c Thursday and 35c Friday


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Rob K
03 August 2020 17:17:09

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Met office going for 37c on Friday. Info on their Twitter feed.



37C two Fridays in a row? I'll believe that when I see it. I think the Met have gone the other way, usually they are too overcautious with max temps ahead of the event but the models only seem to be going one way and that's reducing the intensity of the heat this week. I reckon 34-35C will be the limit. But still a date record quite likely!


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briggsy6
03 August 2020 17:50:15

Are the temps likely to be slightly lower this time due to the fact that the heat is concentrated in a smaller geographical area eg South East?


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Ally Pally Snowman
03 August 2020 18:17:38

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


37C two Fridays in a row? I'll believe that when I see it. I think the Met have gone the other way, usually they are too overcautious with max temps ahead of the event but the models only seem to be going one way and that's reducing the intensity of the heat this week. I reckon 34-35C will be the limit. But still a date record quite likely!



 


Seems a bit high at the moment but we'll see.


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Rob K
04 August 2020 06:38:09
Arpege only going for 34C on Friday. Expect those Met Office numbers to start falling soon if they haven’t already.
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Bertwhistle
04 August 2020 07:52:45

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Arpege only going for 34C on Friday. Expect those Met Office numbers to start falling soon if they haven’t already.


 


48 hours on and MetO still going for 36 and 35 at Heathrow and Kew, but what you say wouldn't surprise me Rob.


Even so, a 34+ could still give a DR, particularly on Friday where it's only 34.0 to beat. Arpege is interesting, modelling those 34s briefly but over the Weald rather than W London. 


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