snow 2004
29 June 2020 21:24:54
https://www.lancs.live/news/local-news/record-rainfall-june-cumbrian-mountain-18507259 

Today could easily have been a November day. Temp has been between 11.6C and 12.1C throughout.

Yet another breakdown that brings 2 or 3 days of unseasonably strong winds and cool temperatures.
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Saint Snow
29 June 2020 21:45:03

It's the wind that's getting right on my tits - we've had some intense spells and what felt like squall lines. The pop-up gazebo has taken a right battering. Had to screw one leg to the house wall as it's buckled.


Won't get more than this year out of it. 



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KevBrads1
30 June 2020 05:04:40

Any similiarities between this June and that of 1982?


Both warmer, wetter than average and thundery in nature.


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johncs2016
30 June 2020 13:10:03

June Sunshine Totals at Edinburgh Gogarbank


Shown above is a graph which I made up in Microsoft Excel of the number of hours of Sunshine during June of each of the last 15 years at Edinburgh Gogarbank, right up until 1pm this afternoon. The dashed line represents the 1981-2010 June average for that particular station and from that, you will see that I have coloured all of the sunnier than average months yellow and all of the duller than average months grey (which tends to have been our most common colour of the sky in this part of the world during this month).


From that chart, you will see that the dullest month was June 2007 with a total of just 64.6 hours of sunshine whilst the sunniest month was June 2018 with a total of 194.1 hours of sunshine. You will also see from that, that there were only 5 sunnier than average months during that time period with every other month being duller than average.


This adds up to just a third of all Junes during that 15 year period being sunnier than average, which just shows how poor a month the month of June tends to be these days in terms of sunshine amounts. Indeed, this month has been the fourth dullest June in that 15 year period and if we don't get at least another 2.6 hours of sunshine between now and the end of today, this month will go down as our dullest June since 2012 which shows just poor this month has been in that regard.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
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30 June 2020 16:55:44

Here's an interesting set of stats for you: the last 5 summer months, dating back to August 2018, have all been statistically mediocre, and every single one has been wetter than average (assuming this June continues the trend). Yes, every single summer month since the beautiful July of 2018 has been wetter than average.


Yet each contained a hot spell that either broke records or at least hit the 33C mark which until recently was comparatively rare.


[data below are all from Hadley England and Wales series]


Stats:


August 2018: temp 16.5C (+0.8C); rain 72mm (103%); sunshine 166.3hrs (91%). Summer index score 134, which is almost exactly average for 1971-00


June 2019: temp 14.1 (+0.6C); rain 116.3mm (180%); sunshine 162hrs (91%). Summer index 111, well below average and 4th lowest since the millennium


July 2019: temp 17.3C (+1.45C); rain 66mm (120%); sunshine 199.3hrs (104%). Summer index 148, the best of these 5 months and a little above average (mid-table: 16th best since 1971)


August 2019: temp 16.9C (+1.2C); rain 89.8mm (129%); sunshine 199.7hrs (110%); summer index 143, again a little above average and about a third down the table since 1971


June 2020: temp probably around 15.0, but let's see; expected to be wetter and duller than average


Hot spells:


August 2018: 33.2C on the 3rd


June 2019: 34.0C on the 29th, but with record high 850s touching 25C and a record shattering French heatwave


July 2019: 38.7C on the 25th, the all time record


August 2019: 33.4C on the 27th, following the hottest late August bank holiday on record


June 2020: 33.4C on the 25th


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severnside
01 July 2020 08:16:02

The putrid disgusting weather continues, low hanging lead coloured clouds, drizzle , minuscule flashes of sunlight, blink and you will miss it, and feeling very cool. On my way to work along the route, looking down to the Seven beyond the Forest of Dean, the low lying cloudy garbage looked like winter in the outer Hebrides.


Looks like Gloucestershire's weather is turning very much to Aberdeen's, gut wrenching diabolical 

TimS
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01 July 2020 09:37:56

This summer weather is definitely harder to take after 3 months of wall to wall sunshine and drought. The way the Atlantic storm train just appears as if on schedule for the real summer.


Today would be a nice bright, breezy and unusually warm day for April or October. It's not July weather. And it's windy, yet windy in the wrong places as we are generating very little wind power (or solar, because it's bleakly cloudy in most placed) on the grid today.


Definitely merits a richardabdn style


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
richardabdn
01 July 2020 21:27:00

Yet again June was so bad it’s been the worst month of the year. Even compared to the rock-bottom standards set since 2007 it was a dismal month.


I said at the time of the record sunny February that it would turn out sunnier than at least one summer month, possibly all three. Yet another toxic June has proved the first part correct. The sunshine was boosted by last Wednesday to Friday but still ended up with another abysmal total.



Yet again we reach summer and the sunshine levels fall off a cliff:


Jan: 96.3hrs (143%)
Feb: 144.6hrs (167%)
March: 149.9hrs (117%)
April: 215.6hrs (140%)
May: 236.0hrs (117%)
June: 134.6hrs (79%)



Absolutely sick of this crap almost every year since 2007. Who the hell wants loads of sunshine during the cold months only to end up with this endless gloom come summer? Especially when the excess sun in winter is only due to nasty cold windy westerlies that prevent there from being any snow


June is an utter car crash year in year out pretty much. The stats are horrifying. The 1991-2020 average will be just 167 hours – down from a peak of 201 hours for 1911-40. Since 1997 only 2003, 2018 and 2019 have managed 200 hours. Absolutely staggering. No other month has changed so much. The fact that November, Winter and Spring have become so much sunnier just accentuates the depressing dullness of June.


Since 2007 the average has been just 155 hours – 13 hours less than April. Half of the Junes since 2007 have recorded less than 140 hours sunshine whereas between 1880 and 1970, which is the last time we had a really sunny June, only 12 Junes failed to beat this wretchedly poor total. June 1942 had similar sunshine to this month and was the dullest for 26 years yet three Junes since 2007 have been duller (2007, 2012, 2014) with a further two (2016, 2017) only fractionally sunnier.


What used to be exceptionally bad is now the norm in this rotten stinking awful era for weather. Even the notoriously bad summers of the 50s and 60s weren’t a patch on the utter dross endured since 2007. The Junes of 1953, 1954, 1958 and 1966 were the only ones in those two decades poor enough to come in under 140 hours.


Furthermore, as if these dismal sunshine totals aren’t bad enough, they’re made to feel even worse thanks to the loathsome and irrational ‘Weekend Curse’. Only two months out of 15 now in which the weekends have been sunnier than the weekdays. This horror June one of the very worst at just 63% of the weekday average matching last July’s execrable performance.


Is this ever going to end?


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severnside
03 July 2020 17:52:27

A true nasty Autumnal day today, strong cold winds, bouts of rain , overcast lead coloured skies that you can bang your head on.


Trying to remain positive with the latest GFS 12z looking good further out, as usual touching wood & fingers crossed.

TimS
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03 July 2020 17:56:22

Weeks like this one, and forecasts like this evening’s runs, remind me why I really shouldn’t be living in this godforsaken dump of a country. That’s before we get on to our current government.


So at this nearly half way point in the season we can start to rule out certain labels. It’s too late to be a legendary summer. Bordering on too late to be a “pretty good” summer - we’d need to see a big turnaround in the output as of right now to keep that alive.


Still enough time for 2020 to be a “decent summer, that got better as it went along” but we need to get a move on. 1990 managed that by the end despite an awful start to July. 


Still plenty of opportunity for this to be a “washout”. Probably too late to be a “cold” summer, because of June. 


My money is on “yet another disappointing summer after a promising late spring”.


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Brian Gaze
03 July 2020 19:37:01

Feels like we're back in the land of eternal October this evening. Wet and windy. Vile and a generally poor week even down here in the south.  


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Tim A
04 July 2020 06:52:50
Can't believe there are winds up to 60mph forecast for here tomorrow. As if it hasn't been autumnal enough.
Tomato plants are already looking stressed after all the rain and suppressed temps and I fear this will finish them off.
Raining again now . Seems like the Pennines has had constant rain for days, western slopes must have had some crazy totals.

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TimS
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04 July 2020 10:30:42
Still windy, but it’s the darkness the last few days that’s really getting at me. Such low light levels, zero sun, positively Aberdonian.
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severnside
04 July 2020 10:55:06

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Still windy, but it’s the darkness the last few days that’s really getting at me. Such low light levels, zero sun, positively Aberdonian.


Yes more cloudy dull muck, with that damp slightly drizzly feel here. Sun has in gone in deep hiding


 

Saint Snow
04 July 2020 21:26:29

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Still windy, but it’s the darkness the last few days that’s really getting at me. Such low light levels, zero sun, positively Aberdonian.


 


The strong wind remains my nemesis. Had to do an extensive 'bodge job' on the pop-up gazebo over the hot tub today. The wind's proper knackered it, allowing rain to pool on the roof, dragging the structure down


I hate this country's climate - crap summers, crap winters. 



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KevBrads1
05 July 2020 05:43:55

Gusty winds.


Summer index down to 182


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howham
05 July 2020 08:29:03
Forecast has maxima no higher than 15C right out to Saturday...
TimS
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05 July 2020 08:36:04

We actually have 15C 850s over us right now. From what I can tell the minimum last night didn't get below 17C in London. So a diurnal range of about 3C. And the wind last night, truly Novemberesque. At least it's a bit brighter this morning.


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Saint Snow
05 July 2020 10:30:24

More damaging winds



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Ulric
05 July 2020 12:47:27
Yes, windy again. We've hardly had a week go by this year without strong winds. I guess it's due to jetstream behaviour?
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