Phil G
09 May 2020 19:28:43

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I know I'm a hypocrite etc and I do find Phil G's posts quite amusing but can we keep these purely Brexit posts out of this thread? It's not always easy and HMG's Covid-19 response and Brexit are linked but let us try to stay on topic



Quite Justin. I have been defending my vote for nearly four years now. Very tiresome!


On topic, let's hope the PM keeps things tight until they fathom out what's causing our high infection rate.

Whether Idle
09 May 2020 19:28:48

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


 


 


 


 The BBC tried to influence the public telling them what they should be thinking. As far as I am concerned the quicker they get rid of as many of the unaccepting hard left wing remainers there the better. Being centre right I can acknowledge both sides, but when it comes to the Guardian they are so extreme left wing and unaccepting of the other side, you can never make them see your point of view.



Oh   my   God.  Would you listen to yourself.


 Go volunteer to help out a food bank or the NHS Scheme and do us all a favour by posting less crap less often.


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Maunder Minimum
09 May 2020 19:47:40

Anybody wondering why Kent is a COVID-19 hotspot?


Look no further than this abject disgrace:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-52599696


 


New world order coming.
RobN
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09 May 2020 20:01:53

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


 


This isn't biased. From the referendum to the December election, every day the BBC website published anti Brexit stories which always contained the words could, might, perhaps etc and followed these up on TV. It was every day, well over a thousand days of propoganda. When these stories were found to be untrue, there was nothing, no apology, but these stories had served a purpose because the strategy was if you tell a story enough times, it must be true. When it came to interviews, the BBC could not help themselves argueueing with leavers.


John Humphrey's on his leaving the BBC:


"John Humphrys has lifted the lid on the BBC's "institutional liberal bias" and accused the corporation of being out of touch with the nation in his memoir.


The veteran broadcaster, who retired from Radio 4's Today show two days ago, says bosses "badly failed" to read the public's mood on Brexit and "simply could not grasp" why anybody voted Leave.


In an extract published in The Daily Mail on Saturday, he recalled the morning after the referendum, writing: "Leave had won – and this was not what the BBC had expected. Nor what it wanted.


"No nods and smiles when the big bosses appeared. No attempt to pretend that this was anything other than a disaster."


 


There you go, from a horses mouth. It was funny to see the BBC presenters faces post December election. Smacked arses, restrained, muted, personality transplants. The BBC tried to influence the public telling them what they should be thinking. As far as I am concerned the quicker they get rid of as many of the unaccepting hard left wing remainers there the better. Being centre right I can acknowledge both sides, but when it comes to the Guardian they are so extreme left wing and unaccepting of the other side, you can never make them see your point of view.



John Humphrys is a poor choice of judge of impartiality. He was a terrible interviewer. He'd been in the job too long and thought he was a god. His interviews were appalling biased but often it wasn't a simple matter of left or right - it was whether he liked the interviewee or not. If he liked the person he was terribly chummy and never asked a difficult question. However if he took a dislike to the person he was a complete rottweiler. 


I think your political spectrum is so far skewed as to be unrecognisable to most people.


As I mentioned above the extreme left think the Guardian is a Tory stooge.


Those like you claiming the BBC has an extreme left wing bias are so far to the right that the "centre right" is on the left to them.


Perhaps you should have looked in the mirror before you wrote the last sentence.


 


 


Rob
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Maunder Minimum
09 May 2020 20:06:04

The BBC is neither hard left nor right, I grant you - it is rather a Guardian blob and feels comfortable with those opinions which are expressed politically as Blairism and middle class left of centre goody goody yum yum.


I agree with Justin that this thread should not become derailed by Brexit, but on that particular topic, it is clear that most BBC people suffer from brexitderangementsyndrome and simply fail to comprehend it.


New world order coming.
Gavin D
09 May 2020 20:07:42
"The RKI urges caution in the Corona crisis: The researchers currently estimate the infection rate at 1.1. So far, more than 168,000 infections have been detected in Germany.

The Corona pandemic in Germany may be gaining momentum again: the number of reproductions rose to more than one. This was announced by the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) in his daily situation report on the Corona pandemic."

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/rki-corona-reporduktionsrate-101.html 
Chichesterweatherfan2
09 May 2020 20:10:20

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Anybody wondering why Kent is a COVID-19 hotspot?


Look no further than this abject disgrace:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-52599696


 



Evidence? 

Heavy Weather 2013
09 May 2020 20:12:29

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


The BBC is neither hard left nor right, I grant you - it is rather a Guardian blob and feels comfortable with those opinions which are expressed politically as Blairism and middle class left of centre goody goody yum yum.


I agree with Justin that this thread should not become derailed by Brexit, but on that particular topic, it is clear that most BBC people suffer from brexitderangementsyndrome and simply fail to comprehend it.



Oh let’s blame them instead of the government who are responsible for so many more deaths.


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Brian Gaze
09 May 2020 20:12:40
Things could be hotting up in Germany. It's not clear yet. The UK should sit tight and see what happens.

https://www.bloomberg.com/europe 


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Brian Gaze
09 May 2020 20:13:46

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


Oh let’s blame them instead of the government who are responsible for so many more deaths.



I'm so fed up with the so called Tory Party that I would consider voting for Starmer. 


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Maunder Minimum
09 May 2020 20:16:32

Originally Posted by: Chichesterweatherfan2 


 


Evidence? 



It says in the BBC article that there is increased urgency to head for the UK because of COVID-19 in the migrants camps in northern France.


The French authorities need to round up all the migrants in those camps, test them, quarantine them and give them the choice of either claiming asylum in France or returning to their home countries. The French won't do that of course, because they don't want them either.


P.S. just had a look at Priti's Twitter feed - she is getting hammered over the illegal migrant invasion from France - hopefully, she will be emboldened to do something proactive to stop it.


 


New world order coming.
RobN
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09 May 2020 20:23:51

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Things could be hotting up in Germany. It's not clear yet. The UK should sit tight and see what happens.

https://www.bloomberg.com/europe


Yes this is very alarming. According to RKI the current estimate is R= 1.10 (95% prediction interval: 0.90- 1,34)


The daily situation reports are available in English on the RKI website.


Rob
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Brian Gaze
09 May 2020 20:31:54
It appears the problem with the Roche and Abbott tests is they need a phlebotomist to take the blood sample. The UK doesn't have the infrastructure to roll out on mass. Another fiasco beckons.
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JHutch
09 May 2020 20:35:27

That must be a sudden rise in Germany, was 0.7 the other day. Guess we will have to wait and see if it was a statistical blip or not.

Maunder Minimum
09 May 2020 20:36:08

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

It appears the problem with the Roche and Abbott tests is they need a phlebotomist to take the blood sample. The UK doesn't have the infrastructure to roll out on mass. Another fiasco beckons.


I doubt whether any country has the infrastructure for that - so we have gone from a prick in the thumb, to requiring a trained nurse to take a blood sample - it is an ever disappearing story.



New world order coming.
bledur
09 May 2020 20:39:53

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I know I'm a hypocrite etc and I do find Phil G's posts quite amusing but can we keep these purely Brexit posts out of this thread? It's not always easy and HMG's Covid-19 response and Brexit are linked but let us try to stay on topic


Yeah right , pots, Kettles , Black, You are having a laugh.

four
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09 May 2020 20:40:35

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

"The RKI urges caution in the Corona crisis: The researchers currently estimate the infection rate at 1.1. So far, more than 168,000 infections have been detected in Germany.

The Corona pandemic in Germany may be gaining momentum again: the number of reproductions rose to more than one. This was announced by the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) in his daily situation report on the Corona pandemic."

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/rki-corona-reporduktionsrate-101.html



To be expected, we probably have far more here already exposed so no reason to assume what happens there will be repeated here.
Eventually all countries will have to encounter enough CV-19 exposure to create herd immunity, you can only delay it a bit.
The death rates will be similar everywhere too but centred on various groups.
If you miraculously more or less keep this year's version out (e.g. NZ) you will probably have less immunity to CV-20 and 21


Gavin D
09 May 2020 20:40:42

The Governments message from tomorrow is changing to Stay Alert Control the virus Save Lives


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/09/stay-alert-boris-johnsons-new-message-nation/

Brian Gaze
09 May 2020 20:50:10
Two members of Dynamo Dresden test positive. Football is a no no IMO.
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Polar Low
09 May 2020 20:50:57

I must say I took my partner to hospital last week for urgent eye surgery I was very impressed with how cautious and safe it was.


I was allowed in see her the lift as my partner is partially sighted in both eyes then to be greeted with 2 nurses with masks and also a set of important questions about covid


I was not allowed in and asked to returned to the car park I waited about 4 hours in the car as the hospital is about 30 miles away (Colchester)


I was then phoned by a nurse to say my partner was ok and would be sent downstairs in a lift in a wheelchair I waited and picked her up wheeled her to the car and returned the wheelchair in a certain area with wipes to clean.


The nurse had cleaned everything before hand before collecting.


I felt safe for my partner and pleased it went ahead as it’s a good chance it has saved her sight in that eye.


We are hoping for further surgery in the other eye soon if we can.


 


 


 


 


 


 



Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


I would support all healthcare provision, including dentistry, opticians, mental heath etc to open as normal. But if people are scared to go into hospital or see their GP, there isn't much you can do other than public messaging


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