IanM
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16 August 2019 09:29:09

After a few local conversations here I wonder if anybody has any early thoughts as to what to expect this coming winter?

johncs2016
16 August 2019 09:52:00

Could be interesting given that it is likely to be the solar minimum winter with solar cycle 25 starting fairly soon after that (I have read that a very small handful of the tiny amount of sunspots which have occurred most recently, are likely to be from that new solar cycle 25 rather than the old solar cycle which we are now leaving, and which is solar cycle 24). If that doesn't favour a cold winter this time, then I think that it almost certainly will by the time that we get to the following winter of 2020/21.

I also think that with a weak La Nina signature becoming increasingly visible in the eastern half of the Equatorial Pacific in particular, that could also favour a cold winter here. Furthermore, it is interesting as well that Gavin P. in his annual NAO forecast has gone for a slightly negative NAO during the coming winter. We have however, had a negative NAO throughout this summer which has resulted in the Azores High being posted missing for much of the time, and which is probably at least partly responsible as a result of that for the wet summer which we have had in this part of the world (although it has still been warm at times to the point where we even had our hottest day on record during July) due to low pressure forming underneath that northern blocking and sitting over the UK for much of the time.

I would imagine that it is only a matter of time before that goes positive again with a strengthening Azores High being the result of that. However, if Gavin P.'s forecast of a slightly negative NAO comes off, that will favour a cold winter here, especially if the NAO ends up being more negative than expected at that time.

A lot will of course, depend on the transition from the current westerly QBO to an easterly QBO and if that happens fairly quickly, that could favour a colder winter especially later on. My main concern though is those warm SSTs over the NE Pacific which has ruined so many recent winters in this part of the world and I think that this is something which needs to go away if we are have any chance of getting a cold winter this winter.

Apart from that though, it is still very early days as regards to what the coming winter has in store, especially since that is also likely to depend quite a lot on other factors which won't actually come into play until further down the line, such as the onset of any Siberian/Scandinavian snow cover during the coming autumn.


 


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Gusty
16 August 2019 11:10:04

Originally Posted by: IanM 


After a few local conversations here I wonder if anybody has any early thoughts as to what to expect this coming winter?



More garden paths, mirages and chasing rainbows. Infact I intend to take a 4 month break from TWO at the end of October, returning in early March when eternal autumn starts to resemble spring again.


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Whether Idle
16 August 2019 11:14:42

To contain the mildest ever winter month?  Will make December 2015 look chilly. 


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ARTzeman
16 August 2019 11:16:48

Snow on Christmas Cards.  Also an early winter fall for November. 






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Gusty
16 August 2019 11:17:05

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


To contain the mildest ever winter month?  Will make December 2015 look chilly. 



Hopefully. 


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Brian Gaze
16 August 2019 11:42:30

If we're being honest all we can really say is: a) it will come and it will go b) it will almost certainly fall short of the expectations and predictions of snow rampers 


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ktaylor
16 August 2019 15:16:34

Would love to have a long hard cold winter with lots of snow. Freezing temps. Get snowed in for a few weeks which wouldn't take alot here. Build an igloo or two 


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Col
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16 August 2019 15:50:44

Originally Posted by: ktaylor 


Would love to have a long hard cold winter with lots of snow. Freezing temps. Get snowed in for a few weeks which wouldn't take alot here. Build an igloo or two 



Ha ha, next you'll be saying Spurs can win the Premier League!


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westv
16 August 2019 17:00:48
It'll be on a knife edge but the +240 GFS will hold the faith.
At least it will be mild!
richardabdn
16 August 2019 18:04:47

Winter is incredibly grim and tedious these days. There is just nothing to look forward to -just dark nights and a toxic mix of unpleasant cold westerlies and even more vile cyclonic south easterlies. 


Snowy arctic northerlies just don't exist any more.


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Gusty
16 August 2019 18:18:26

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


Winter is incredibly grim and tedious these days. There is just nothing to look forward to -just dark nights and a toxic mix of unpleasant cold westerlies and even more vile cyclonic south easterlies. 


Snowy arctic northerlies just don't exist any more.



I agree. I've grown to detest the season. 


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16 August 2019 18:19:38

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


If we're being honest all we can really say is: a) it will come and it will go b) it will almost certainly fall short of the expectations and predictions of snow rampers 


I’d put money on both a) and b)!  


I’m quite happy to see summer and autumn through first.   


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ARTzeman
16 August 2019 20:48:11

I'd be happy enough just to have snow this winter and maybe a couple of hard frosts thrown in.






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DEW
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17 August 2019 05:35:03

I'd be quite happy with a firm and agreed forecast for next weekend. Next winter can be no more than wishcasting


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beanoir
17 August 2019 20:26:18
Winter starts in March these days does it not?? 🤣
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ktaylor
17 August 2019 20:28:21

Originally Posted by: Col 


 


Ha ha, next you'll be saying Spurs can win the Premier League!



Anything is possible after draw at City. Even snow


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Roger Parsons
17 August 2019 20:46:23

Originally Posted by: DEW 


I'd be quite happy with a firm and agreed forecast for next weekend. Next winter can be no more than wishcasting



You are right of course, DEW, but many folk have commented to me about the autumn-ish feel to recent days - cold mornings, condensation on windows etc. Gets people thinking, and now September 1st is showing on the TWO 16 day forecast. [15C and 6+ mm rain.]


I have a log shed full of seasoned firewood that should see us through the winter months, whatever they bring, and am currently sawing up my old beehive frames for kindling. [I gave up the bees after my spell in hospital earlier in the year.] The comb goes into a solar extractor and melts down into blocks of wax. ["Keep the wax, and melt it down." Frank Zappa]


Roger


 


 


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Saint Snow
17 August 2019 21:15:27

Winter?


Summer's not started yet!!



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scillydave
18 August 2019 06:58:35

Originally Posted by: IanM 


After a few local conversations here I wonder if anybody has any early thoughts as to what to expect this coming winter?



My bus driver told me that it's going to be the worst winter ever on record with months of blizzards and snow.


It turns out he drives the Express bus.


Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.
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