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Originally Posted by: Retron  After two utterly awful, useless for doing anything outsifde* days, let's see if today's MetO forecast is as cruddy as the last few.
IMBY, it says:
Today 25° 19° Sunny.
That's actually warmer than at this time on Saturday and Sunday, both of which ended up being revised, during the day, to 29C. I'd bet the same happens today.
All I can say is thank God today's the last day of this insufferable heatwave... it took my little portable aircon all night to get the temperature down to 23C, such is the amount of heat stored up in this house. I can't even have the windows open this morning as I'll be at work... it's going to be an absolute inferno in here tonight!
* - unless you do it at 7 AM, as I did, but there's only so much chopping and pruning you can do without making a racket. Even the wolf centre had to abort their wolf walk on Sunday as the wolves refused to go any further! I was on Sheppey yesterday. Arrived midday at Warden Bay. Pleasant walk assisted by a breeze to the fossil beach, where many fossils including a fossil shark's tooth was found. After that, to the arcades at Leysdown (very busy), we headed to Shellness (not the nudist bit!) and then kayaked around the corners towards the Isle of Harty and back. This was the first time Ive ever not felt I needed at least a t shirt on top, so lovely and warm it was on the Swale! |
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Originally Posted by: Whether Idle  I was on Sheppey yesterday. Arrived midday at Warden Bay. Pleasant walk assisted by a breeze to the fossil beach, where many fossils including a fossil shark's tooth was found. After that, to the arcades at Leysdown (very busy), we headed to Shellness (not the nudist bit!) and then kayaked around the corners towards the Isle of Harty and back. This was the first time Ive ever not felt I needed at least a t shirt on top, so lovely and warm it was on the Swale! Yup, as I said - too hot to be outdoors [unless you're a lizard/tourist/a bit mad/sun-addled/one of those people who can't stand aircon at 21C as it's "cold" - forgot that part]. I, meanwhile, was in the garden to start with and then retreated indoors. First to the games room / posh shed (which being in the shade stays cooler for longer), then in the house (where it stayed below 25C until, oh, midday or so). There was the unusual sight, though, of cars in a traffic jam crawling past the end of my road... I was glad I didn't go anywhere. Incidentally, for me at least, the areas you mention are at their best on a cold, sunny winter's day. They're also pretty much deserted, which is much more pleasurable than doing the "penguin walk" because there are so many people! Edited by user 27 August 2019 06:22:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Retron  After two utterly awful, useless for doing anything outsifde* days, let's see if today's MetO forecast is as cruddy as the last few.
IMBY, it says:
Today 25° 19° Sunny.
That's actually warmer than at this time on Saturday and Sunday, both of which ended up being revised, during the day, to 29C. I'd bet the same happens today.
All I can say is thank God today's the last day of this insufferable heatwave... it took my little portable aircon all night to get the temperature down to 23C, such is the amount of heat stored up in this house. I can't even have the windows open this morning as I'll be at work... it's going to be an absolute inferno in here tonight!
* - unless you do it at 7 AM, as I did, but there's only so much chopping and pruning you can do without making a racket. Even the wolf centre had to abort their wolf walk on Sunday as the wolves refused to go any further! The irony is of course that the very aircon you use in order to keep cool will contribute to global warming and make it even hotter in the future, so you'll need even more aircon which will make it hotter still........ But I'll stop right there :) |
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Manchester Summer Indices
1954 143 1907 147 1956 155 1912 156 1924 158 2012 164 2008 168 1987 169 1946 170 1909 171 1931 173 1978 173 1980 173 1920 174 1923 174 2007 174 1927 175 1948 176 1938 177 1922 178 2011 179 1985 180 1958 184 1972 185 1916 188 1986 189 1965 189 2016 189 1910 190 1936 190 1988 191 2010 191 1966 192 1998 192 2017 192 1953 193 1963 194 1993 194 2009 194 1902 195 1915 196 1981 196 1928 197 1962 197 1964 197 2004 197 1952 198 2000 198 1930 199 1974 199 1979 199 2019 199 (up to 26th August) |
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Right now I would give my molten left nipple for a sub 10 c night. Last night I found myself sleeping on the foot end of my bed so that I can be nearer to the window and was on top of the blanket as overnight temps didn't fall any lower than 19.3 c at 6.30 am.
The good news is that tonight should be the last truly sticky night for a while - possibly for this year but I still won't be breaking out the high tog duvet just yet.
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Originally Posted by: Col  The irony is of course that the very aircon you use in order to keep cool will contribute to global warming and make it even hotter in the future, so you'll need even more aircon which will make it hotter still........ But I'll stop right there :) I do, at least, have a 100% renewable electricty tariff - every little helps! For every unit I use, they gaurantee a renewable unit is put into the grid (as of course at any given time the electricity on the grid is from a mixture of sources). And by gum I need that aircon - it was 31.7C upstairs half an hour ago and not much cooler outside. It's fascinating, though, as back in the 80s a day reaching 30 would have been headline news (and being near the coast here, it seldom got close to it). These days 30 is commonplace and 35 seems to be the new 30! At least today should be the end of it, for this year at least. A steamy night to come, and not due to anything dodgy! Originally Posted by: idj20  Right now I would give my molten left nipple for a sub 10 c night Ohhh... sub 10C, with that slight "nip in the air" feeling... leading to wrapping oneself in a snuggly duvet. Gorgeous and a million times better than the crud we're enduring at the moment. The only good thing of this is that the heat fans at work were moaning today about it being too hot to sleep properly! I could barely surpress my grin as I uttered the time-honoured words, "but I thought you liked the heat?" (And a note to those "up north", who rarely get this sort of sustained heat: no matter how good you think it sounds, it really isn't. I daresay the same would be true of endless snow in winter, but I guess if you rarely get something you crave it. Snow in my case, heat for others - albeit down here there's always plenty every year!) EDIT: And my thought this morning turned out correct - yet again a ninja-increase in the max, reflecting a pretty woeful performance by UKV. Today 29° 19° (That's the Met Office forecast for today for here). Edited by user 27 August 2019 17:33:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Retron  The only good thing of this is that the heat fans at work were moaning today about it being too hot to sleep properly! I could barely surpress my grin as I uttered the time-honoured words, "but I thought you liked the heat?" It has been particularly oppressive today IMO as I mentioned in another thread. Therefore I am close to agreeing with you even though I enjoy hot weather. |
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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze  It has been particularly oppressive today IMO as I mentioned in another thread. Therefore I am close to agreeing with you even though I enjoy hot weather. Today was more humid and very still so it felt more oppressive. |
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Manchester Summer Indices
1954 143 1907 147 1956 155 1912 156 1924 158 2012 164 2008 168 1987 169 1946 170 1909 171 1931 173 1978 173 1980 173 1920 174 1923 174 2007 174 1927 175 1948 176 1938 177 1922 178 2011 179 1985 180 1958 184 1972 185 1916 188 1986 189 1965 189 2016 189 1910 190 1936 190 1988 191 2010 191 1966 192 1998 192 2017 192 1953 193 1963 194 1993 194 2009 194 1902 195 1915 196 1981 196 1928 197 1962 197 1964 197 2004 197 1952 198 2000 198 1930 199 1974 199 1979 199 1918 200 1944 200 2002 200 2019 200 (up to 27th August) 1951 201 |
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Despite the recent warm and sunny weather , haven't seen as many wasps as I would expect at this time of year
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Looking at Kev's summer index, I don't remember 2002 being a good summer. Perhaps it was better up north? |
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Originally Posted by: Frank H  Despite the recent warm and sunny weather , haven't seen as many wasps as I would expect at this time of year I'm the opposite. I've seen loads this August!
In terms of weather, normal service for this summer is resumed today. Dull, wet and miserable Edited by user 28 August 2019 14:43:42(UTC)
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As the temperature & humidity drop away with a freshening breeze and the sun gone behind cloud . . .
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Originally Posted by: GezM  Looking at Kev's summer index, I don't remember 2002 being a good summer. Perhaps it was better up north? The Met Office (CEDA) now have daily rainfall data going back to 1891 (was 1961) in 1km grid squares along with monthly and seasonal sunshine totals and average maximum temperatures going back to 1929 and 1884 respectively. Sunshine data for London after 1900 is available elsewhere so it is possible to use the exact same formula that Kevin uses to get a London version of the Manchester Index going back to 1900 (including the rain days for a 0.2mm or more threshold) Year London_Index 1912 195 1956 203 1954 204 1927 207 1922 211 1910 211 1968 213 1946 216 1916 216 1920 217 1965 218 1909 218 1902 218 1931 219 1907 220 1958 221 1987 222 1977 223 1948 226 1963 226 1985 227 1988 227 1936 229 1944 229 1924 230 1903 231 1978 232 2012 233 1980 233 2007 234 1960 235 1913 236 1982 239 1971 240 1945 240 1939 241 1953 241 1979 242 2008 242 1974 243 1915 244 1992 246 1972 247 1918 247 1917 247 2011 248 1966 248 1926 248 1962 249 1919 250 1998 251 1943 251 1905 251 1981 252 1986 252 1942 255 1930 255 1941 256 1914 256 1991 256 1938 256 1957 257 2019 258 ===> up to 27 Aug 2019 1964 259 2009 259 2002 262 2000 263 1997 263 2016 265 1950 266 1908 267 1961 268 1951 269 1932 269 1925 269 2015 269 1928 270 1923 270 1937 270 1993 271 1970 272 2010 273 1969 275 2017 276 1929 277 1900 278 1952 279 1967 281 1999 282 2004 283 1947 285 1973 288 2014 289 1935 290 1940 290 1934 290 2005 293 1955 293 1904 293 2001 295 1901 296 1984 300 2013 301 1990 301 1994 304 1906 305 1996 306 1921 308 2006 312 1959 314 2003 314 1933 314 1983 316 1975 316 1949 316 1989 330 2018 333 1911 335 1995 336 1976 362 The generally higher maxima down here mean the "average" values are a fair bit higher than for Manchester |
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Originally Posted by: andy-manc  I'm the opposite. I've seen loads this August!
In terms of weather, normal service for this summer is resumed today. Dull, wet and miserable Normal service has returned here in Edinburgh as well, but not because we're getting any rain. In fact, part of the reason why normal service has been resumed here is because we're not getting any rain here even though the vast majority of the UK has been getting some rain during today at some point in time. In other words, Edinburgh has returned to its more typical status of being the most boring part of the UK when it comes to our weather with all of the more interesting weather occurring elsewhere. For here, we're getting very little rain, but lots of cloud and very little sunshine and it can't really get any more boring than that.  |
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh. |
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I know summer is nearing its end because the birch trees are now dropping those horrible little seeds that get stuck in your socks and all in the carpets. I hate having to hoover up every 2 days! |
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Originally Posted by: johncs2016  Normal service has returned here in Edinburgh as well, but not because we're getting any rain. In fact, part of the reason why normal service has been resumed here is because we're not getting any rain here even though the vast majority of the UK has been getting some rain during today at some point in time. In other words, Edinburgh has returned to its more typical status of being the most boring part of the UK when it comes to our weather with all of the more interesting weather occurring elsewhere. For here, we're getting very little rain, but lots of cloud and very little sunshine and it can't really get any more boring than that.  I'm glad it didn't rain in Edinburgh yesterday as I was there with work and just as I had finished the sun came out and I was able to enjoy a good walk before I had to head back on the train. Aberdeen missed out on the rain as well and was also mostly cloudy with 4.9 hours sun. Edinburgh has had plenty of thunderstorms this summer and exceeded 31C. A sharp contrast to the utter tedium endured here. I can never remember anything so relentlessly unsettled yet added up to so little. Just dire drizzle and light rain showers almost every day. About the only part of the country not to record a single noteworthy high temperature the entire year when even Baltasound managed an exceptional (for their location) 23.4C in July. I doubt there has been anywhere else in the country that has had to suffer the relentless bland and unextreme tripe that we've been served up for the last six years. Constantly missing out on anything exciting or interesting even the snow that we always used to get. Life in a weather vaccuum is what it feels like  Edited by user 29 August 2019 22:30:28(UTC)
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Aberdeen: The only place that misses out on everything
Horror Wet Summers Year in Year Out and an Unprecedented Snow Drought
Last 5cm Snow Depth: 4th March 2018 Last 10cm Snow Depth: 14th March 2013
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Originally Posted by: GezM  Looking at Kev's summer index, I don't remember 2002 being a good summer. Perhaps it was better up north? Utter garbage up here like nearly all summers in the last 20 years. Spent a few days in SE England either side of a holiday in Slovenia and the weather was crap there as well. Friday 5th July 2002 was a real miserable washout day in London. |
Aberdeen: The only place that misses out on everything
Horror Wet Summers Year in Year Out and an Unprecedented Snow Drought
Last 5cm Snow Depth: 4th March 2018 Last 10cm Snow Depth: 14th March 2013
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Summer 2002 was pretty average here temperature-wise, but wet. August was the best month and it reached 30.2C on the 17th. |
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Originally Posted by: richardabdn  I'm glad it didn't rain in Edinburgh yesterday as I was there with work and just as I had finished the sun came out and I was able to enjoy a good walk before I had to head back on the train. Aberdeen missed out on the rain as well and was also mostly cloudy with 4.9 hours sun. Edinburgh has had plenty of thunderstorms this summer and exceeded 31C. A sharp contrast to the utter tedium endured here. I can never remember anything so relentlessly unsettled yet added up to so little. Just dire drizzle and light rain showers almost every day. About the only part of the country not to record a single noteworthy high temperature the entire year when even Baltasound managed an exceptional (for their location) 23.4C in July. I doubt there has been anywhere else in the country that has had to suffer the relentless bland and unextreme tripe that we've been served up for the last six years. Constantly missing out on anything exciting or interesting even the snow that we always used to get. Life in a weather vaccuum is what it feels like  That was a spell of unusually "interesting" weather for here though. Normally, our weather here in Edinburgh isn't all that interesting and the last few days in particular, have really showed us that. I will also add that when 31°C was exceeded here in Edinburgh, that wasn't actually the case right across Edinburgh. It is true that the temperature at Edinburgh Gogarbank reached 31.6°C on that day and it is that reading which confirmed that Edinburgh had its hottest day on record on that day. Where I live here in the north of Edinburgh, that was also quite a hot day. However, there was also a slight breeze from off the North Sea which meant that it wasn't as hot here in the north of Edinburgh as it was slightly further inland at locations such as Edinburgh Gogarbank. That was shown by the fact that the temperature on that day, only reached 26.6°C at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh (as confirmed as the true maximum temperature on that day on that station's website, whereas the highest hourly reading on that day was only 26.1°C at that same station) which although still quite hot for here, was a whole 5.0°C cooler than what it was at Edinburgh Gogarbank on that same day. That is quite a significant temperature difference for within what is more or less, the same local area which was enough to ensure that I myself, never actually got to experience those really high temperatures where I live here in the north of Edinburgh. This is just the opposite thing from what happened quite a lot during the winter of 2012/13 when under an easterly wind, there was quite a lot of deep snow just a little bit further inland from here whilst there was very little in the way of lying snow here in the north of Edinburgh due to our close proximity to the east coast and the fact that those easterly winds from off the North Sea were that bit milder here as a result, than what they were further inland. Edited by user 30 August 2019 04:14:24(UTC)
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The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh. |
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