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Online Lionel Hutz  
#21 Posted : 19 March 2019 09:24:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons Go to Quoted Post

 

Thanks Nick. In the 70s we used to drive to Wales from Cambridgeshire and we knew we had reached the border when we started to see buzzards. Over subsequent years buzzard distribution moved eastwards and by the 80s we had buzzards over our garden in Lincolnshire. It is interesting to reflect on the factors which affected this spectacular recovery. It did of course have an impact on the prey species. One of the more intriguing comments is that Brown Hares changed their breeding habits locally, moving forms closer to human dwellings where predation was less likely.

It is worth recalling that a predator can be their prey species' greatest friend and ally, mopping up diseased and vulnerable individuals and achieving a balanced population. An effective predator does not destroy its food supply.

Roger

I've seen buzzards locally to me quite a bit over the past couple of weeks. Interesting that you say that they widened their distribution in the UK in the 80's. That process has been mirrored on this side of the Irish Sea. Buzzards were extinct in Ireland until(I think)1940 when they moved into Co. Antrim from Scotland but were confined to East Ulster for a long time. They now breed in most counties in Ireland, having spread from Ulster really only within the last two decades. I recall first seeing them near me in the early 00's and I didn't even know what kind of birds they were. I recall their characteristic "mewing" call and having looked up a bird book, thought that they looked like buzzards. However, the same bird book told me that buzzards only bred in a few North-Eastern counties, so I thought that I must be making a mistake. I didn't see any buzzards again for a good few years but in the last 2/3 years, they are now a common enough sight where I live.

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#22 Posted : 19 March 2019 11:02:27(UTC)
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Being close to an active shooting Moor I try and keep tabs on our raptors and any young that might accompany them later in the season.

My last view of the buzzard was it being mobbed and it was only its mew and the tumble of Jackdaws/crows mobbing it that gave it away. Its plumage up against the hillside render it near invisible!

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#23 Posted : 19 March 2019 11:33:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NMA Go to Quoted Post

I have only seen red kites in Wales (Tregaron Bog) and that was at the time when they were on the verge of extinction. Otters and polecats were what we were there for though.

Roger I think I see more brown hares than rabbits in this part of Dorset.

I caught a programme on TV the other night about the role of scavengers in ecosystems and how poisoning has to all intents eliminated them in India. The result more humans deaths.Very easy to understand but with consequences that are tragic for humans as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_vulture_crisis

In Africa too.

https://www.birdlife.org/worldwide/news/100-vulture-deaths-prevented-rapid-response-poisoning

But back to the red kites in Northern Skys back yard. It must be great for you to hear them as much as I love to hear the mewing of buzzards soaring on an April day above our house.

An oldie but still a good read.

https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/shakespeares-red-kite-returns-to-london-after-an-absence-of-150-years-6111922.html

Nick

The re-introduction programme carried out around nearby Harewood House has been incredibly successful. I see kites everyday but when they call and swoop low over the house it's a magical sound. I know a place nearby where you can often see groups of kites (most I've counted was 12 a few weeks ago). One of my interests is making field recordings and I keep meaning to go and record them. Hopefully I'll get round to it this Spring.

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#24 Posted : 19 March 2019 12:26:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Northern Sky Go to Quoted Post

 

The re-introduction programme carried out around nearby Harewood House has been incredibly successful. I see kites everyday but when they call and swoop low over the house it's a magical sound. I know a place nearby where you can often see groups of kites (most I've counted was 12 a few weeks ago). One of my interests is making field recordings and I keep meaning to go and record them. Hopefully I'll get round to it this Spring.

I've been expecting their range to have pushed out our way following major country roads as their food source ( road kill) ?

One flew over the house last late spring ( no mistaking that tail!) but nothing since ( but then I've been near housebound since Oct?)

Let's see what this summer brings?

Still waiting for my courting Buzzards over the Ripponden/Blackstone side of my Valley!

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#25 Posted : 19 March 2019 13:38:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gray-Wolf Go to Quoted Post

 

I've been expecting their range to have pushed out our way following major country roads as their food source ( road kill) ?

One flew over the house last late spring ( no mistaking that tail!) but nothing since ( but then I've been near housebound since Oct?)

Let's see what this summer brings?

Still waiting for my courting Buzzards over the Ripponden/Blackstone side of my Valley!

I spotted a pair of buzzards IMBY the other week, I’m not far from a shooting estate myself but the gamekeepers around here don’t seem to mind raptors. I think on the whole most gamekeepers are lovers of nature like myself and like most things in life you’ll always get one or two bad eggs.

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#26 Posted : 19 March 2019 14:10:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post

I spotted a pair of buzzards IMBY the other week, I’m not far from a shooting estate myself but the gamekeepers around here don’t seem to mind raptors. I think on the whole most gamekeepers are lovers of nature like myself and like most things in life you’ll always get one or two bad eggs.

I have to suspect that some estate manager have a 'word of mouth' policy with their gamekeepers? If they use poisson then it is hard to track down and easy to monitor and remove 'corpses' so the public are not aware.

Only tagged birds are left for discovery.

Still, Golden Eagles to be re released on Snowdonia soon!

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#27 Posted : 19 March 2019 16:28:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NMA Go to Quoted Post

I have only seen red kites in Wales (Tregaron Bog) and that was at the time when they were on the verge of extinction. Otters and polecats were what we were there for though.

Roger I think I see more brown hares than rabbits in this part of Dorset.

I caught a programme on TV the other night about the role of scavengers in ecosystems and how poisoning has to all intents eliminated them in India. The result more humans deaths.Very easy to understand but with consequences that are tragic for humans as well.

But back to the red kites in Northern Skys back yard. It must be great for you to hear them as much as I love to hear the mewing of buzzards soaring on an April day above our house.

Nick

A most interesting post, Nick. We watched Red Kites at Tregaron in the late 60s and much more recently at Gigrin Farm in Mid-Wales where we could really appreciate the size difference between Buzzards and Kites. Because they are fed you can see them close together.

Well worth a visit.

https://www.gigrin.co.uk/

http://www.rhayader.com/redkite.html

We often see individual Red Kites in Lincolnshire - but to see them in numbers is something else.

Also see Fineshade Wood info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S3LR7eOgsc

Roger

Edited by user 19 March 2019 18:10:52(UTC)  | Reason: ficed link

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No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

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#28 Posted : 19 March 2019 19:05:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Northern Sky Go to Quoted Post

I've not seen a buzzard for ages. We have so many Red Kites here I wonder if there is competition between them? 

It absolutely makes my day when I step out of the house and hear the call of Red Kites, it really is a beautiful, wild sound. It's just wonderful hearing that sound on a council estate in Leeds 

I agree- I still get excited now after they've been present much more widely from their 70s Wales stronghold for quite a time. And yet, my first ever sighting was near Stockbridge, N Hampshire in October 2008. I couldn't believe I was actually seeing the angle-back wings and forked tail of NOT a buzzard. Have seen many now, even close down near Romsey and S of Winchester. Every one a treat.

Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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#29 Posted : 19 March 2019 21:32:56(UTC)
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I've only ever seen a red kite, at a distance, from the M4 near London. We do however have reasonable number of buzzards about.

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#30 Posted : 20 March 2019 01:25:21(UTC)
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Red kites are indeed very common in and around Leeds. They’re no longer a bird you stop to look at, but a given to see soaring in the sky on a more or less daily basis. I never see any other bird of prey with such regularity. Sparrowhawks would be the next contender, followed by tawny owls (but really heard and not so often seen). I did actually see a buzzard soaring a few days back but that’s the first in a good while.

In other news, various birds are preparing for nesting season. The groups of crows and magpies are now fracturing into pairs. Two magpies are building their nest nearby, and two carrion crows are reaffirming their bond with various clicking sounds and grooming of one another’s feathers. Wood pigeons are courting, with one highly territorial bird having chosen my garden as its territory, chasing away all other wood pigeons (and occasionally stock doves & collared doves). The dawn chorus is growing louder with more birds joining. Blackbirds, robins and song thrushes currently dominate but the wrens and dunnocks are pretty loud too. Shouldn’t be too long until the first migrants arrive.

Originally Posted by: Gray-Wolf Go to Quoted Post

Hi Bertie!

We have numerous 'clans' of jackdaw around the valley but , at twilight, all the clans muster into some kind of 'super gathering' with 'flights' of one clan or other joining the meet/leaving the meet over the period of the gathering.

Ours tend to act like they're riding an updraft ( reeling around together ) but then will 'tumble' and swoop to a lower level before beginning the ascent again?

Watch closely and you'll see that they are nearly all flying as a pair ( I wonder if some crafty 1st world war German pilot noted this behaviour and rolled it out into their airforce!) as they fly around.

We have lots of jackdaws flying around too, occasionally landing in the garden, but the magpies and carrion crows don’t like them one bit. They get chased away often. I see them occasionally flocking at dusk, looking for trees to roost in, a remarkable sight and sound with all those ‘jacks’.

Rooks are also common, very often on the playing fields looking for grub. There are rookeries in the nearby woods and it’s a deafening sound when you’re right under them, especially on a very quiet summers morning..

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#31 Posted : 20 March 2019 07:44:53(UTC)
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I thought I might have spotted a Cuckoo this week, overhead in Woodhall Spa. A quick glance of a bird with the right JIZZ. Not impossible.
https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/wildlife-guides/bird-a-z/cuckoo/


Cuckoos and the ITCZ.
Cuckoo migration to and from Africa is apparently linked to the movement of the Inter Tropical Convergence Zone.
https://www.bto.org/science/migration/tracking-studies/cuckoo-tracking


You can follow the BTO's satellite-tracked cuckoos as they make their way towards Europe over the next few weeks.
Fascinating.

Roger 

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No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

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#32 Posted : 20 March 2019 08:29:47(UTC)
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Thank you Roger for those interesting links. 

Nick

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#33 Posted : 20 March 2019 13:01:18(UTC)
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After all I said yesterday there were a pair of Buzzards on the 'mount Skip' side of the Valley this a.m. !

Rather given away by the cloud of Jackdaws mobbing the lower of the two as they wheeled about the updraft/thermals.

I'm hoping they'll be back later on in their travels.

Again the sheer size of them compared to the Jackdaws and their lumbering around compared to the quick winged Jackdaws.

I'd love to have a comparison with the Canada Geese in flight just to see how big they are compared to a Goose in flight!

 

 

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#34 Posted : 21 March 2019 13:09:55(UTC)
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Swallows/Martins.

Anyone any sightings yet?

I've seen plea for 'tesco' to remove their 'nets' (that are stopping Swallows nesting) as our first returnees are now being reported?

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#35 Posted : 21 March 2019 13:12:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gray-Wolf Go to Quoted Post

Swallows/Martins.

Anyone any sightings yet?

I've seen plea for 'tesco' to remove their 'nets' (that are stopping Swallows nesting) as our first returnees are now being reported?

 

Sand Martins have been spotted relatively locally (they are always the first) but no sign of swallows or house martins yet

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#36 Posted : 21 March 2019 17:19:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gray-Wolf Go to Quoted Post

Swallows/Martins.

Anyone any sightings yet?

I've seen plea for 'tesco' to remove their 'nets' (that are stopping Swallows nesting) as our first returnees are now being reported?

Still waiting for a first chiffchaff call here, Gray. Mid March is the usual time.

Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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#37 Posted : 08 April 2019 12:26:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle Go to Quoted Post

 

Still waiting for a first chiffchaff call here, Gray. Mid March is the usual time.

Chiffchaffs in residence about a week and a half now AND I saw my first swallow yesterday, on a telegraph wire, presumably resting after its 8000km voyage.

Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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#38 Posted : 08 April 2019 14:13:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle Go to Quoted Post

 

Chiffchaffs in residence about a week and a half now AND I saw my first swallow yesterday, on a telegraph wire, presumably resting after its 8000km voyage.

Saw two birds in flight yesterday that looked very 'swallow' like but it was too far away for a positive I.D. and my bino's weren't to hand.

Maybe , like the weather ,we are going back to the 80's norm of mid april here this year.

Chiffchaff been around for over a week now and plenty of L.B..J.'s ( warbler of some description) in the hedges/on the dry stone walls.

Saw a tree creeper yesterday in a headlong dash down the bole of a sycamore.

My Buzzards are staying together a lot it appears with 2 sightings of them both , at height, over us yesterday.Again Jacky D. giving them hell and looking like spitfires attacking a B52!

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#39 Posted : 08 April 2019 15:51:46(UTC)
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Tracking Cuckoos to Africa... and back again
Cuckoos are on their way. See the BTO Cuckoo movements website.
https://www.bto.org/science/migration/tracking-studies/cuckoo-tracking


Selborne and Larry are nearly here.
Roger

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No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

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#40 Posted : 08 April 2019 16:59:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gray-Wolf Go to Quoted Post

 

Saw two birds in flight yesterday that looked very 'swallow' like but it was too far away for a positive I.D. and my bino's weren't to hand.

Maybe , like the weather ,we are going back to the 80's norm of mid april here this year.

Chiffchaff been around for over a week now and plenty of L.B..J.'s ( warbler of some description) in the hedges/on the dry stone walls.

Saw a tree creeper yesterday in a headlong dash down the bole of a sycamore.

My Buzzards are staying together a lot it appears with 2 sightings of them both , at height, over us yesterday.Again Jacky D. giving them hell and looking like spitfires attacking a B52!

Our first swallow arrived two days ago, now we have at least two - surprisingly I've read of only a scattering of other reported arrival. By contrast lots of sand martins about, as there are blackcaps.

Chiff chaffs arrived on time in mid march and I just heard our first willow warbler earlier today. Redstart still to see and, you never know, maybe I'll even get time to find a nightingale.

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