We live just South of St Andrews.  Of late, available forecasts have been way off beam.  The national forecasts rarely mention our area and often give a broad brush for all of Scotland whilst mentioning detail for the South and South East of England.

Does any professional produce a reasonable Scotcentric weather forecast.

Is there a Scots equiviant of the CET available?

The hourly TWO forecasts are currently using Arpege data and are better than the GFS ones IMO. You can select location using the auto suggest or directly from the map: 

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoforecasts/uk-forecast-map.aspx

 

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At least you know that you're 'in the north'.

I hear forecasters talking about it being fine in the south and wet in the north, and assuming I'm in the wet bit, only to find they mean the far north and in fact I sit in the south.

But then the next forecaster will refer to 'the north' as northern England (Cheshire/South Yorks upwards) northwards

 

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At least you know that you're 'in the north'.

I hear forecasters talking about it being fine in the south and wet in the north, and assuming I'm in the wet bit, only to find they mean the far north and in fact I sit in the south.

But then the next forecaster will refer to 'the north' as northern England (Cheshire/South Yorks upwards) northwards

 

Seems everyone is guilty of this and it's really not helpful at all.

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Seems everyone is guilty of this and it's really not helpful at all.

 

I'm sure there never used to be such a level of bland generalisation. Forecasters would refer to smaller areas/regions - like 'Western Scotland' or 'Devon & Cornwall' or 'the far south east of England'

 

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We live just South of St Andrews.  Of late, available forecasts have been way off beam.  The national forecasts rarely mention our area and often give a broad brush for all of Scotland whilst mentioning detail for the South and South East of England.

Does any professional produce a reasonable Scotcentric weather forecast.

Is there a Scots equiviant of the CET available?

I think the only place I have seen such a thing is on Philip Eden's website, sadly he is no longer with us. Googling the term doesn't bring anything up so I suspect the Scottish CET was simply Philips own personal construction, rather than any official series.

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FORECAST FOR SCOTLAND

WEDNESDAY 

Grim and wet with midges.

FURTHER OUTLOOK.

 Worse..

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/ and enter your location?

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Thank you, but it is easy to find forecasts, but not to find forecasts that are accurate. Does anyone publish their hit rate?

E.g. as a perfect example:

"WEDNESDAY
Grim and wet with midges."

That is about par for the course, we don't get midges in this part of Scotland and the rainfall here was 645mm over the last 12 months, one of the lowest in the country and somewhat less than Hampshire!

Ian I think the best you will get would be the written Met Office forecasts online. While not perfect they are about as good as you will get.

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Ian, I find the BBC Scotland TV regional forecast quite good just before 7pm. It's sometimes very rushed but with zoomed in graphics you get more of an idea of what's going to happen. They show Edinburgh and Aberdeen temperatures. You are in between these cities and often 2 degrees warmer than Edinburgh in SW or W winds.
Perhaps not as local as you would like. It's a shame the Met Office don't produce a Scotland only broadcast.

As for the national BBC forecast....forget it! London comes first, then the Midlands and lastly Northern England, perhaps Northern Ireland. Even Carol Kirkwood largely ignores Scotland, her native country!

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Ian, I find the BBC Scotland TV regional forecast quite good just before 7pm. It's sometimes very rushed but with zoomed in graphics you get more of an idea of what's going to happen. They show Edinburgh and Aberdeen temperatures. You are in between these cities and often 2 degrees warmer than Edinburgh in SW or W winds.
Perhaps not as local as you would like. It's a shame the Met Office don't produce a Scotland only broadcast.

As for the national BBC forecast....forget it! London comes first, then the Midlands and lastly Northern England, perhaps Northern Ireland. Even Carol Kirkwood largely ignores Scotland, her native country!

True, and she wasn't even here for the last Hogmanay celebrations as she had been for at least the previous couple of years that I could remember.

One thing I will say about the BBC Scotland forecast though is that just like its national UK counterpart, it is coming from Meteogroup rather than the Met Office which makes the reliability of the model output which is used for those forecsts, just as question.

If you are looking for a Scottish forecast which is coming from the Met Office, I would probably look no further than STV's forecast with Sean Batty as its anchor man.

As the Met Office is technically a UK Government department, I would imagine that the only way in which we could ever have a separate Scottish Met Office would be if Scotland itself, was to become independent or if that responsibility was somehow devolved to the Scottish Government but since this isn't a political forum, I won't go into that one here.

 

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We live just South of St Andrews.  Of late, available forecasts have been way off beam.  The national forecasts rarely mention our area and often give a broad brush for all of Scotland whilst mentioning detail for the South and South East of England.

Does any professional produce a reasonable Scotcentric weather forecast.

Is there a Scots equiviant of the CET available?

Are you talking about forecasts that are 24-48 hours ahead or longer ? I must admit on 90% + of occasions I find the Met Office App very helpful and on some occasions deadly accurate in the short range. Longer term of course as synoptic uncertainties increase so does the reliability of the forecast.   

In a showery situation, a shower can occur 1 mile up the road from you and you stay dry making a shower forecast 100% wrong - but you cant really legislate for that sort of thing. 

St Andrews, like so many spots in eastern Scotland and indeed sheltered parts of England, East Wales and SE of NI has its own micro climate. It'll depend on what resolution of an app or automated forecast you're referring to when you say the forecasts are poor. Data from high resolution automated forecasts should be best at taking account of local factors but its still a fact that some micro climates are so notable they cant yet be adequately modelled or resolved. it might even be that your local micro-climate is sensitive to a specific wind direction down to just  10 degrees or less on the compass. 

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I find the forecasts useless for here as well. 

Same goes for all the Scottish temperature/rainfall/sunshine series that the Met Office produce. Totally irrelevant as they are skewed by the wet and sunless high ground where nobody lives. Even the Eastern Scotland series are too cool, cloudy and wet to be representative of the parts where people actually live. 

A simple average of Inverness, Aberdeen, Dundee, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Ayr and Dumfries would make a more useful and representative series.

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FORECAST FOR SCOTLAND

WEDNESDAY 

Grim and wet with midges.

FURTHER OUTLOOK.

 Worse..

Don't forget the wind 😁