JACKO4EVER
26 January 2019 13:36:19

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


I saw one of those in Pennsylvania last year and I can assure you it looked nothing like that forecast. 




🤣


let’s hope for once their bullish update comes to some fruition 👍

tallyho_83
26 January 2019 13:36:52

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 


 


I wish they would tbh even the new website they're working on isn't any better with regard to the timestamp



 


So how often do the Met Office update their text forecast? I always thought that whenever the time stamp changes is when they update the text!?


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tallyho_83
26 January 2019 14:02:12

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 



Next week


Cold start
Some sunshine
Some rain and snow
Milder to end the week


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/47009899




That was yesterdays - i was watching that and like what? it's Friday!?


This is way more accurate with the precipitation charts too. The BBC shows the South and SW mostly dry tomorrow in comparison with the Met OFFICE which show frequent showers:


 


https://youtu.be/SF-fntmpm3o


 


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Brian Gaze
26 January 2019 14:24:33

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


 


So how often do the Met Office update their text forecast? I always thought that whenever the time stamp changes is when they update the text!?



I've asked the same question several times before. Unfortunately no one here seems to know. 


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doctormog
26 January 2019 14:53:06

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


I've asked the same question several times before. Unfortunately no one here seems to know. 



I am sure I answered that before. As far as I know the 5-16 day forecasts are updated daily some time between 11:30am and 1:30pm on some versions of the site but admittedly the time stamps really do not help and they seem to update later on my iPad.


No, that is not logical nor does it make sense, so don’t ask me why! 


Gavin D
26 January 2019 18:52:07

Next week


Cold start
Some sunshine
Some rain and snow
Less cold later


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/47009899

Gavin D
26 January 2019 18:53:36

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


 


So how often do the Met Office update their text forecast? I always thought that whenever the time stamp changes is when they update the text!?



 


Local and regional 5-day tends to update 3 to 4 times a day as per the timestamps


 


6 to 30 day updates once per day generally between 11am and 1pm

tallyho_83
26 January 2019 19:48:21

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 


 


Local and regional 5-day tends to update 3 to 4 times a day as per the timestamps


 


6 to 30 day updates once per day generally between 11am and 1pm



So what I am getting at was today's update for instance was at 14:45 - that doesn't mean the text was updated then does it? Or judging by what you and DOC have said is that the text forecast was updated between 11am and 1pm? It's so confusing as it shows Updated 14:45 on Sat 26th Jan 2019 - when what it really means is published at that time - as 14:45  is not between 11am and 1pm. Sorryr I a being pedantic but it's relevant esp re the models I.E IF they are updated after the 00z runs or 06z etc...!? 


UK Outlook for Sunday 10 Feb 2019 to Sunday 24 Feb 2019:


Cold or very cold conditions are likely to dominate the weather throughout this period, with a greater than average chance of easterly or northeasterly winds dominating. This would bring an enhanced risk of snow, as well as widespread and occasionally severe frosts, although the exact details remain very uncertain. In this setup, the driest and brightest weather is likely in the north and northwest. Despite the prevalence of cold weather, occasional milder interludes remain possible, most likely in the south, although the incursion of these introduce a significant risk of snow should very cold conditions become established.


Updated: 14:45 on Sat 26 Jan 2019 GMT


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xioni2
26 January 2019 21:16:23

Some interesting footage from Turkey


 



Gavin D
26 January 2019 21:39:22

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


So what I am getting at was today's update for instance was at 14:45 - that doesn't mean the text was updated then does it? Or judging by what you and DOC have said is that the text forecast was updated between 11am and 1pm? It's so confusing as it shows Updated 14:45 on Sat 26th Jan 2019 - when what it really means is published at that time - as 14:45  is not between 11am and 1pm. Sorryr I a being pedantic but it's relevant esp re the models I.E IF they are updated after the 00z runs or 06z etc...!? 


UK Outlook for Sunday 10 Feb 2019 to Sunday 24 Feb 2019:


Cold or very cold conditions are likely to dominate the weather throughout this period, with a greater than average chance of easterly or northeasterly winds dominating. This would bring an enhanced risk of snow, as well as widespread and occasionally severe frosts, although the exact details remain very uncertain. In this setup, the driest and brightest weather is likely in the north and northwest. Despite the prevalence of cold weather, occasional milder interludes remain possible, most likely in the south, although the incursion of these introduce a significant risk of snow should very cold conditions become established.


Updated: 14:45 on Sat 26 Jan 2019 GMT



 


The 14:45 update only updated the UK & regional 5-day forecast the 6 to 30 day is only once a day between 11am and 1pm. I personally just wish they'd get shot of the timestamp as it does nothing but confuse folk

Gavin D
26 January 2019 21:41:26

Latest 3 monthly forecast from the weather company


IBM Seasonal Outlook: Cold, Dry Weather to Persist Through February in Northern/Western Europe



Active Storm Track to Keep Southern Europe Wet and Windy


Andover, MA


For the aggregate February-April period, The Weather Company, an IBM Business, is forecasting below-normal temperatures across the northwestern half of Europe, with above-normal temperatures confined to Southeast Europe.


“The long-anticipated pattern change towards more sustained colder weather has finally occurred as we head towards the end of January,” said Dr. Todd Crawford, chief meteorologist with The Weather Company. “The obliteration of the polar vortex that occurred via the sudden stratospheric warming event that began on 1 January has resulted in an atmospheric adjustment that will allow a sustained “blocking” pattern over the North Atlantic. This blocking will allow for a long period of colder and drier weather across northwestern Europe as high pressure pushes in from the north and east. This will suppress the storm track to southern Europe, where a wet and windy month is expected in February.”

For the February-April 2019 period, The Weather Company is forecasting the following temperatures.

February


Nordic region – Colder than normal


U.K. – Colder than normal


Northern Mainland – Colder than normal


Southern Mainland – Warmer than normal east, colder than normal west


Nordic region – Colder than normal


March


U.K. – Warmer than normal


Northern Mainland – Warmer than normal


Southern Mainland – Warmer than normal


April


Nordic region – Warmer than normal


U.K. – Warmer than normal


Northern Mainland – Warmer than normal


Southern Mainland – Warmer than normal east, cooler than normal west



https://business.weather.com/news/ibm-seasonal-outlook-cold-dry-weather-northern-western-europe

tallyho_83
26 January 2019 21:47:29

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 


 


The 14:45 update only updated the UK & regional 5-day forecast the 6 to 30 day is only once a day between 11am and 1pm. I personally just wish they'd get shot of the timestamp as it does nothing but confuse folk



 


Thanks well then - it may be an idea for them to put the time stamp beneath the 5 day forecast instead of beneath the 6-30 forecast to solve confusion! - Or else we will all think that both 5 day and 6 to 30 day forecast have been updated at the same time!


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tallyho_83
26 January 2019 21:49:08

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Latest 3 monthly forecast from the weather company


IBM Seasonal Outlook: Cold, Dry Weather to Persist Through February in Northern/Western Europe



Active Storm Track to Keep Southern Europe Wet and Windy


Andover, MA


For the aggregate February-April period, The Weather Company, an IBM Business, is forecasting below-normal temperatures across the northwestern half of Europe, with above-normal temperatures confined to Southeast Europe.


“The long-anticipated pattern change towards more sustained colder weather has finally occurred as we head towards the end of January,” said Dr. Todd Crawford, chief meteorologist with The Weather Company. “The obliteration of the polar vortex that occurred via the sudden stratospheric warming event that began on 1 January has resulted in an atmospheric adjustment that will allow a sustained “blocking” pattern over the North Atlantic. This blocking will allow for a long period of colder and drier weather across northwestern Europe as high pressure pushes in from the north and east. This will suppress the storm track to southern Europe, where a wet and windy month is expected in February.”

For the February-April 2019 period, The Weather Company is forecasting the following temperatures.

February


Nordic region – Colder than normal


U.K. – Colder than normal


Northern Mainland – Colder than normal


Southern Mainland – Warmer than normal east, colder than normal west


Nordic region – Colder than normal




Well we really do need to start seeing this in the model outputs and soon because February is less than a week away and we have been here before and there is very little northern blocking on the model output at this stage - not to mention many ensembles are trending milder or less cold as we head into FEB. 


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Gavin D
26 January 2019 21:54:11

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


 


Thanks well then - it may be an idea for them to put the time stamp beneath the 5 day forecast instead of beneath the 6-30 forecast to solve confusion! - Or else we will all think that both 5 day and 6 to 30 day forecast have been updated at the same time!



 


Sadly the new website they're working on is no better they say the 6 to 30 day was updated at 16:00 when it wasn't


 


As I say for the 6 to 30 day just following the dates it covers then you know they've updated it


 


ie today is 31st to 9th whereas tomorrow it'll be 1st to 10th on the 6 to 15 day once they've issued the update and so on

tallyho_83
27 January 2019 00:23:21

I don't know why but I just love this photo I took and her so called 'JAZZ Hands!' 


What's the name of this forecaster?


Back to weather she forecast - sleety/ snow showers crossing many parts on Wednesday:



 


 


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nsrobins
27 January 2019 08:17:15
The deepening wave to low modelled for Tues pm obviously the cause of significant uncertainty. Likely a RACY candidate, deepening at over 1mb/hr from Mon am to Tues pm. It’s all about track this one as the air in place is really marginal with regards rain/snow ppn type. And with all the discussion about will it or wont it produce snow, a shift North brings with it the risk of damaging winds on it’s southern flank.
Fascinating 48hrs of forecasting for all concerned.
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