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We have an amazing display of hollyhocks this year, and until a couple of days ago all were still upright. Now I've had to go round with the twine. A couple of observations on bees and hollyhocks (a) bees prefer those closest in colour to red (b) there are fewer bees visiting this year than usual and although the flowers were always more popular with bumbles, honey bees are all but absent this year. (This may be a function of where hives are being kept, of course) But the fennel is proving very popular with hoverflies, though not bees. |
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Originally Posted by: DEW  We have an amazing display of hollyhocks this year, and until a couple of days ago all were still upright. Now I've had to go round with the twine. A couple of observations on bees and hollyhocks (a) bees prefer those closest in colour to red (b) there are fewer bees visiting this year than usual and although the flowers were always more popular with bumbles, honey bees are all but absent this year. (This may be a function of where hives are being kept, of course) But the fennel is proving very popular with hoverflies, though not bees. My borage is late this year from self sown stock but bees love the blue flowers. Fennel is a popular plant with hoverflies of which there are many this year as indeed bumble bees in various kinds. But honeybees are noticeable by their absence this year. A plus of the damp weather is the general verdant/odoriferousness of the garden which encourages me to give this summer an 8/10 up to now for gardening. Not gardening but sea related. Whitebait (young herring or sprats), a staple part of bass and mackerel diets are completely absent this year off Dorset. Whether that's a result of the long cold spring or a worrying crash in herring/sprat stocks, or even something else I have no idea. It's noticeable off the South Coast in general from other anecdotal reports.
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Originally Posted by: NMA  My borage is late this year from self sown stock but bees love the blue flowers. Fennel is a popular plant with hoverflies of which there are many this year as indeed bumble bees in various kinds. But honeybees are noticeable by their absence this year. A plus of the damp weather is the general verdant/odoriferousness of the garden which encourages me to give this summer an 8/10 up to now for gardening. Not gardening but sea related. Whitebait (young herring or sprats), a staple part of bass and mackerel diets are completely absent this year off Dorset. Whether that's a result of the long cold spring or a worrying crash in herring/sprat stocks, or even something else I have no idea. It's noticeable off the South Coast in general from other anecdotal reports. Colour [as perceived by bee eyes] is a significant attractant, but bees are totally red-blind. Also, bees make informed decisions. They can tell when flowers are secreting nectar. Scout bees are constantly monitoring this and reporting the information back to their colony. Foraging workers will act on this information and go to the specified location. Periodicity of nectar production varies between species and conditions. What garden flowers look like in bee vision [left] compared to humans [right]: https://www.jolyon.co.uk/2020/07/garden-flowers-in-bee-vision/ Roger |
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I knew that bee colours were different to human ones, but not the detail. It would be interesting to see my hollyhocks in bee vision, but what I saw was a definite order of preference [Red, pink, maroon] > white > [cream, pinkish-yellow]. It is of course possible that the red group were producing more nectar; pollen amounts appear similar. |
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Originally Posted by: DEW  I knew that bee colours were different to human ones, but not the detail. It would be interesting to see my hollyhocks in bee vision, but what I saw was a definite order of preference [Red, pink, maroon] > white > [cream, pinkish-yellow]. It is of course possible that the red group were producing more nectar; pollen amounts appear similar. Exactly, David - only the Bees can't appreciate red!  You may also have noticed in the bee vision pictures that the "this way" nectar guide markings on petals show up more obviously. Roger |
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French beans and Japanese raspberries in full flow |
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After a couple of years on the waiting list we've managed to get an allotment! It was completely overgrown so I've strimmed it and covered with black membrane to leave over Winter. One section had been covered so I'm just starting to work on that and the soil looks very nice indeed. There's one or two things I can plant now and I'm starting with some potatoes which I hope will be ready for Christmas.
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I was pleased to note 12 colonies of black garden ants having a "Flying Ant Day" today. Tuesday, 10th August. The nests were glistening with a torrent of alates off on their nuptial flight at 17.00hrs. https://www.nhm.ac.uk/di...warm-nuptial-flight.html Roger |
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Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons  I was pleased to note 12 colonies of black garden ants having a "Flying Ant Day" today. Tuesday, 10th August. The nests were glistening with a torrent of alates off on their nuptial flight at 17.00hrs. https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/when-why-winged-ants-swarm-nuptial-flight.html Roger Hello Roger. Our daschund has been busy licking the odd ant off of the patio slabs but when the fly day came he was overwhelmed and wouldn't go out, shaking on the doormat (pathetic) leaving them to the mercy of the customary dozens of gulls. On a bee note, the weather conditions have been ideal for perpetuating our flowering plants this year and we have many different bees and hoverflies busy in the petals. It's no doubt thanks to both these groups that our flowering veg is doing so well. As yet, barely any wasps though. |
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Here's a green idea.... "Cannabis plants with a street value of £1m have been found at a flooded property in Bury town centre. About 1,000 plants have been destroyed after they were discovered on Silver Street, Greater Manchester Police said."
Cannabis farm worth £1m found in Bury town centre https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-58267564 
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I usually grow a row of runner beans that get unruly, difficult to pick and produce far too many. So this year I set just nine climbing French beans up three wigwams, to make them easy to pick. We’ve been harvesting them for a couple of weeks but today, I’ve supplied my sister with a bag full to freeze, have frozen some myself and supplied my neighbour, who pegs a bag on the fence, labelled ‘Wendy’s bean bag’.  I’m actually getting a much better crop, possibly because I can see them all!  |
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Originally Posted by: Northern Sky  After a couple of years on the waiting list we've managed to get an allotment! It was completely overgrown so I've strimmed it and covered with black membrane to leave over Winter. One section had been covered so I'm just starting to work on that and the soil looks very nice indeed. There's one or two things I can plant now and I'm starting with some potatoes which I hope will be ready for Christmas. Are you going to grow them under cover? Even if you are, it's not at all easy to produce potatoes in the autumn. Apart from falling temperatures, the days are shortening and by late September, day length will be equivalent to late March. Even if you have them under cover, a severe frost could still do for them. I have heard of people doing it successfully but I would have thought it possible only in favoured areas. If you do make a go of it, please let me know how you did it as I would like to do it myself and have new potatoes for Christmas dinner some year! |
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Originally Posted by: Caz  I usually grow a row of runner beans that get unruly, difficult to pick and produce far too many. So this year I set just nine climbing French beans up three wigwams, to make them easy to pick. We’ve been harvesting them for a couple of weeks but today, I’ve supplied my sister with a bag full to freeze, have frozen some myself and supplied my neighbour, who pegs a bag on the fence, labelled ‘Wendy’s bean bag’.  I’m actually getting a much better crop, possibly because I can see them all!  I think it's really great that there's wider benefit from your growing skills. Runners have caused us grief for some years, mostly due to blackfly and drought, but this year they are doing well. But we too have had the issue of nearly-none, then too many, then none again. But I'm hoping the crop will spread across the season this year. Fingers crossed! |
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Did not use the garden due to bad summer and many days was unusable. My neigbboour flowers look very poor quality and not fully thick bloom as you expect in August peak. Only few bloom well that grown next to the house wall as it warmer and sheltered.
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Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle  I think it's really great that there's wider benefit from your growing skills. Runners have caused us grief for some years, mostly due to blackfly and drought, but this year they are doing well. But we too have had the issue of nearly-none, then too many, then none again. But I'm hoping the crop will spread across the season this year. Fingers crossed! Try French climbers for a change. The variety I bought are Cobra and they produce lots of long tender beans quite quickly. I thought I’d left them too long as they were so big but I got a thumbs up from the neighbours. They freeze well too. Good luck with the runners.  |
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Originally Posted by: Caz  Try French climbers for a change. The variety I bought are Cobra and they produce lots of long tender beans quite quickly. I thought I’d left them too long as they were so big but I got a thumbs up from the neighbours. They freeze well too. Good luck with the runners.  Thanks Caz. Actually I'm so excited to see clean green beans this year I'm harvesting them and cooking them straight away, but it is good to know the French beans freeze well, as I've wasted bumper crops in the past. |
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5 packs of Runner Beans sliced and parboiled. Cooled, then placed in Freezer. Scarlet Runner has now been taken down. |
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Tomatoes are being harvested this week before the wind blows them from the plants. |
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Originally Posted by: ARTzeman  Tomatoes are being harvested this week before the wind blows them from the plants. Are they growing well inside the green house I assumed? Tomatoes hate cold and wet weather which I want to grow some when i get a green house.
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