David M Porter
21 January 2018 19:43:38

Originally Posted by: marting 

ECM pretty cold from day 8 with the north easterly in place and it looks like trough to drop through afterwards. Plus GEFS again full of promise and numbers growing each day as 5th feb onwards could be interesting.
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I wonder if the GFS 12z op run was something of a mild outlier? It is certainly vastly different to the ECM 12z by 240hrs.


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Gavin D
21 January 2018 19:49:58

UKMO extended



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Polar Low
21 January 2018 19:50:20

FWIW its not hard to find out why






 


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


 


Ecm snow totals have over a foot for parts of the South on this run. 


Hungry Tiger
21 January 2018 19:58:56

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Massive snow event at day 9 from the ECM,  who's up for another chase then?


http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.html


 




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Ally Pally Snowman
21 January 2018 20:08:57

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


FWIW its not hard to find out why






 


 


 


 


 



 


A thing of beauty. 


 


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Hippydave
21 January 2018 20:50:19

ECM has cool and damp written all over it for my neck of the woods - not sure I can get that excited about another rain with maybe a little back edge snow event whilst somewhere North of me gets buried


Given the rather different GFS at the same time frame I'd want to see it carry on with the same theme tomorrow + Tuesday AM and PM before I start to magnanimously look forward to other people getting excited about their snow


It would though be interesting if ECM had the general pattern right - GFS has seemed to be generally flatter this year and often has to correct back to a more amplified pattern so it's not to say the ECM is wrong <shrug>


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ballamar
21 January 2018 23:00:12
Latter stages of gfs look interesting for one snow and cold
tallyho_83
21 January 2018 23:07:17

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

Latter stages of gfs look interesting for one snow and cold


 


Yes potentially a good set up but in a few hours time the 00z run of the GFS will come out and this eye candy Scandi HP could vanish! Either way we are looking at some settled weather as we head toward the end of Jan into Feb and about bloody time too!! I'd be keen to see what the BBC MOnthly outlook will have to say tomorrow.



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Rob K
21 January 2018 23:08:09
Yes another little tease from the 18Z. Models still all over the place it seems.
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Stolen Snowman
21 January 2018 23:33:26

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


 


Ecm snow totals have over a foot for parts of the South on this run. 



I’m finding this winter so far in my neck of the woods very reminiscent of 1985. Nothing of note until mid January when there was a transient temporary wet snow event much like today. A few weeks later and into February and we were buried in drifting powder snow! 


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NickR
21 January 2018 23:50:51

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


 


Ecm snow totals have over a foot for parts of the South on this run. 



Where is that from?


It's not what this is showing:


https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/2018012112/great-britain/acc-precipitation-snow-total/20180131-1200z.html 


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picturesareme
22 January 2018 00:21:54

Originally Posted by: NickR 


 


Where is that from?


It's not what this is showing:


https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/2018012112/great-britain/acc-precipitation-snow-total/20180131-1200z.html 



 


https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/2018012112/great-britain/snow-depth-in/20180131-1200z.html


 


Though not really southern England as its more Midlands 

Gooner
22 January 2018 06:07:46

Some really cold runs on the ENS 


I don't mind getting HP over us in the hope it will drift into a favourable position 


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marting
22 January 2018 07:07:55
Yes, a dip starting to form. The Berlin temps are creeping down as well over last few days, so trend in place.
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Brian Gaze
22 January 2018 07:20:30

The big question this week is will Georgina arrive? After last week's debacle I think the odds are tipped in favour.



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22 January 2018 07:42:28

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


 https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/2018012112/great-britain/snow-depth-in/20180131-1200z.html


 


Though not really southern England as its more Midlands 



Still very much FI - the snow doesn't appear until approx T+216 - and for every optimistic FI forecast there's a pessimistic one. GFS 0z synoptics suggest dry and average temps at about that time with HP to the west of us. Keep watching but don't hold your breath!


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doctormog
22 January 2018 07:45:08
Based on the above chart I would doubt any amber wind warning would be likely?
Nordic Snowman
22 January 2018 08:17:15

By next weekend, signs of HP settling close to the UK and perhaps more settled in the S. Perhaps a little colder too.


That leaves February as the last hope for any real E'ly outbreak.


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idj20
22 January 2018 08:55:53

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The big question this week is will Georgina arrive? After last week's debacle I think the odds are tipped in favour.





Urgh, yet more wind - the only weather type we seem to be so good at having. However, at least it looks like being a daytime event at this end, rather than at night time when it seem to sound more threatening and stronger so I won't be losing much sleep over this one.

Beyond that, not  a lot to get excited about but nor isn't there that much to get worked up over.


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Gavin D
22 January 2018 09:18:54

UKMO extended pretty much the same as the past few days with high pressure extending up from the south leaving the UK in a milder set-up


 


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