ARTzeman
25 October 2017 10:29:57

Originally Posted by: roger63 


 


What figure are we shooting for to get anew record?Is it the 13.3 achieved in 2001?


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ARTzeman
25 October 2017 10:33:56

Met Office Hadley           13.3c.         Anomaly        2.3c. Provisional to 24th.


Metcheck                        13.12c.       Anomaly        2.61c.


Netweather                     13.57c,       Anomaly        3.18c.


Peasedown st john         13.6c.          Anomaly       3.00c.    






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Bertwhistle
25 October 2017 12:13:24

Back up for a couple of days- if we can get to 27th with the same CET, even a CET as low as 10C over the last 4 days will give a CET of 12.9C so there's still a chance of a 13- putting October amongst the top rankings.


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25 October 2017 18:51:54

What a tipsy turvy couple of months we’ve had. I wasn’t doing too badly up to August but took a slide last month due to over predicting and this month I’ve gone way too low. 


Still, I’m not complaining. At least the heating bills will benefit. 


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ARTzeman
25 October 2017 20:39:36

Don't forget to message GW with your CET for November and December..... 






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roger63
26 October 2017 06:45:44

Originally Posted by: Caz 


What a tipsy turvy couple of months we’ve had. I wasn’t doing too badly up to August but took a slide last month due to over predicting and this month I’ve gone way too low. 


Still, I’m not complaining. At least the heating bills will benefit. 



Likewise CAZ-a rapid fall from top ten expected for me courtesy of being way too low in October!

ARTzeman
26 October 2017 10:07:08

Met Office Hadley         13.3c.           Anomaly        2.3c.


Metcheck                      13.06c.         Anomaly        2.55c.


Netweather                   13.56c.         Anomaly        3.17c.


Peasedown  St John     13.5c.           Anomaly        3.1c.   






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roger63
27 October 2017 09:25:00

Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 


Met Office Hadley         13.3c.           Anomaly        2.3c.


Metcheck                      13.06c.         Anomaly        2.55c.


Netweather                   13.56c.         Anomaly        3.17c.


Peasedown  St John     13.5c.           Anomaly        3.1c.   



Could the race for warmest come down to end of month adjustment.Any thoughts on whether an up or down adjustment is likely?

Bertwhistle
27 October 2017 10:36:39

Originally Posted by: roger63 


 


Could the race for warmest come down to end of month adjustment.Any thoughts on whether an up or down adjustment is likely?



GW could say for sure, but where high temps are concerned I seem to feel that they're more often adjusted down than up.


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ARTzeman
27 October 2017 11:27:36

Met Office Hadley              13.2c.          Anomaly         2.3c.   Provisional to 26th.


Metcheck                           12.97c.        Anomaly         2.46c.


Netweather                        13.54c.        Anomaly         3.11c.


Peasedown St John         13.5c.        Anomaly           3.1c.






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ARTzeman
28 October 2017 11:13:28

Met Office Hadley             13.1c.            Anomaly       2.2c.   Provisional to 27th.


Metcheck                          12.81c.            Anomaly       2.30c.


Netweather                       13.35c.            Anomaly       2.96c.


Peasedown St John          13.4c.             Anomaly          3.2c.






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ARTzeman
28 October 2017 15:13:05

Just looked back to the October CET Prediction chart.  Highest Prediction  is  12.20c.    






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Bertwhistle
28 October 2017 15:15:05

Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 


Just looked back to the October CET Prediction chart.  Highest Prediction  is  12.20c.    



I think we'd all been stung by August and September, Art, a dizzy honeymoon from June!


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ARTzeman
29 October 2017 12:12:18

Met Office Hadley            13.0c.          Anomaly          2.2c.  Provisional to 28th.


Metcheck                          12.82c.        Anomaly            2.31c.


Netweather                       13.27c.        Anomaly            2.88c.


Peasedown St John           13.4c.          Anomaly           3.2c.        






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Bolty
29 October 2017 18:08:28
Well I've totally cocked up my guess for October. I went for quite a cool 9.9C as I thought that was the way the month may have been heading right at the beginning, but in fact quite the opposite has happened.
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Stormchaser
29 October 2017 18:58:33

Well at least nobody need feel foolish; if there's one thing this competition proves it's that it's not a reasonable expectation to be able to reliably predict a whole month in advance with an error of less than 1.5*C, although with a good bit of luck you might manage most of the months in one of the years.


Think of it this way for example; the change to chillier weather that we're now seeing could easily have taken place a week ago, in which case the CET movement would have been down instead of up, and we'd probably have finished somewhere in the 11s. 


Long-range guidance had it occurring around that time, but without it having been quite so balmy mid-month. Extremes like that are tough as nails to spot coming in advance although I'll admit that some experimental ways of looking at the MJO and Kelvin Waves do on reflection appear to give some suggestion of anomalously TM-orientated air flows across the UK. Even after more than a decade of increasingly intense involvement in meteorology, I'm still learning!


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Caz
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29 October 2017 19:23:06

Looks like a month where every one of us went too high and I think we all went too high in September.  I wouldn’t be surprised if this year’s final table will be the one we all had the greatest prediction error. 


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Gusty
29 October 2017 19:27:48

Originally Posted by: Caz 


Looks like a month where every one of us went too high and I think we all went too high in September.  I wouldn’t be surprised if this year’s final table will be the one we all had the greatest prediction error. 



Its been a tricky year 


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ARTzeman
29 October 2017 22:13:04

What will the cool days of the last TWO days show..... How much alteration will it be to the end figure....  






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30 October 2017 06:47:49

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


 


Its been a tricky year 


It has indeed. I think the late Spring early Summer months were quite a bit above average and lulled me into a false sense of security.


I meant to say we all went too low in September of course. 


It makes it all the more difficult to anticipate the remaining two months. 


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