Charmhills
07 February 2014 19:04:10

ECM 12z gererally unsettled from start to finish.


Mild though in fi.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1682.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.gif


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Nick Gilly
07 February 2014 19:06:59

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Yes that will have messed up the JP2 link as that uses the old png files.


 


Thanks for that. I see that they seem to work fine on Netweather although the presentation is different.

doctormog
07 February 2014 19:08:50
Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/royaume-uni/accumulation-precipitations/192h.htm 
Another run , another 2 inches plus of unwelcome rain in the south and west of the British Isles.

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Notable again are the continuing rain shadow effects of Britain's New California - The North East.
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You are joking aren't you WI? This part of the UK has just had one of the wettest, if not the wettest, periods of weather on record! 😕

The short to midterm outlook is more of the same for many places and especially unpleasant looking in the SW of England.
LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
07 February 2014 19:14:04
The ECMWF Model and the UKMO look quite Cold for Tiesday and Wednesday 11th and 12th Feb. 2014, Rain mixed in with Sleet and snow as well is associated with Strong winds and dominated by Two Active Lows.

We get another Wet and Windy low for Thursday and then that moves nE allowing yet another one bring more of the same Windy with rain and heavy showers.

FI has potential for many more North Atlantic Low's and they are in the 144- 240hr time frame but it looks drier for Sunday with a low close by to our SW, even on Sat. 15th, Pressure low with blustery scattered rain showers in the possiblilities.
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
07 February 2014 19:27:23
Originally Posted by: roger63 

Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


It does seem that some Pacific troughing will make a move for California in the near future, all starting with an 'atmospheric river' (as they call it) this weekend that brings a string of warm and moist air from the tropics. This ties in with signs of the longwave ridge/trough shifting a little, although progress looks very slow. At least it will slightly reduce the severity of the drought over there.
The 12z GFS op gets a little further than previous runs pre-192 hours, and it turns out to be just far enough to change the downstream pattern i.e. what affects the UK from day 8.

That NE Pacific/western-U.S. ridge has been incredibly persistent this winter - but if I'm remembering things correctly, it seems to have shifted east overall during the past month... just not very far!


Stormchaser is the persistence of this NE pacific/W estern USA ridge the key to the arrctic outbraks and then knocking on to our stormy winter?



Upon looking at this USA and Pacific Pattern and the effects on N Atlantic and the UK, yes you are exactly right this has been supporting NW to SE tracking PV Low Pressure, Central N Pacific high in charge of then and large high NW Corner Canada and Alaska seen a milder Winter dry and warm I believe.

PV Low pressure tracking from S USA link up to Cld NW flow from Central n Canada with High Pressure spread to Central and NW parts of N and NE USA for the most part, Cold Polar Arctic front advancing South regularly as well, especially Late December last year and inj January and So far this Feb. 2014...
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Whether Idle
07 February 2014 19:36:48

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/royaume-uni/accumulation-precipitations/192h.htm  Another run , another 2 inches plus of unwelcome rain in the south and west of the British Isles.

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You are joking aren't you WI? This part of the UK has just had one of the wettest, if not the wettest, periods of weather on record! 😕 The short to midterm outlook is more of the same for many places and especially unpleasant looking in the SW of England.


I was thinking more of North east England and Fife,  Michael.


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doctormog
07 February 2014 19:42:11
Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/royaume-uni/accumulation-precipitations/192h.htm  Another run , another 2 inches plus of unwelcome rain in the south and west of the British Isles.

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You are joking aren't you WI? This part of the UK has just had one of the wettest, if not the wettest, periods of weather on record! 😕 The short to midterm outlook is more of the same for many places and especially unpleasant looking in the SW of England.


I was thinking more of North east England and Fife, Michael.



Ah righteo. It certainly has not been dry in this area of the northeast. With more southerly tracking lows and consequentially SE winds I doubt we have seen the last of it. Thankfully we have escaped much of the flooding that parts of the south have seen but the wind and rain have taken their toll in places. There's little strong consistent sign of an imminent pattern change in the current output but I guess it is bound to happen, some time.
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07 February 2014 19:59:22

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/royaume-uni/accumulation-precipitations/192h.htm  Another run , another 2 inches plus of unwelcome rain in the south and west of the British Isles.

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You are joking aren't you WI? This part of the UK has just had one of the wettest, if not the wettest, periods of weather on record! 😕 The short to midterm outlook is more of the same for many places and especially unpleasant looking in the SW of England.

I was thinking more of North east England and Fife, Michael.

Ah righteo. It certainly has not been dry in this area of the northeast. With more southerly tracking lows and consequentially SE winds I doubt we have seen the last of it. Thankfully we have escaped much of the flooding that parts of the south have seen but the wind and rain have taken their toll in places. There's little strong consistent sign of an imminent pattern change in the current output but I guess it is bound to happen, some time.


We have been very lucky here in the NE of England - 76mm recorded in my back garden since the start of the year, so nothing at all worrying or that unusual. We get a lot ot stick, primarily because our summers our relatively cool, but the climate here is excellent - dry generally, shielded by the Pennines from the sort of Westerly onslaught of recent weeks, and (usually) a good amount of snow.


Sorry, OT. 


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cultman1
07 February 2014 20:05:20
I really begin to wonder whether this locked pattern may not contine for weeks, maybe even months? Something is oddly wrong with this incessant Atlantic driven weather pattern . Has there EVER been such a LONG sustained period of weather of this type in the last 50 years or so?
John p
07 February 2014 20:07:36
Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Yes that will have messed up the JP2 link as that uses the old png files.


Yes, sorry to all that use that. The web domain has expired now, and I have no need for it anymore so won't be renewing and thus aren't able to amend the links.

If anyone wants to set up something similar, I'd be very happy to use it!

Shame wz had to change their image files!

I am shocked how many people have been using it - it was just something I set up for myself as a way of getting a quick snap shot of the charts.
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Gooner
07 February 2014 20:22:30

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020712/gfsnh-0-288.png?12


19th - 22nd without a doubt on the mild side , notice some colder runs creeping in


 


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Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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tallyho_83
07 February 2014 20:28:53
Still no update!??

http://www.weathercharts.org/wetterzentraleGFSforecast.htm 

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Gooner
07 February 2014 20:30:36

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Still no update!??

http://www.weathercharts.org/wetterzentraleGFSforecast.htm


This must be the 120th post on this matter


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn421.gif


Go to Wetter where it all works very well


 


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


GIBBY
07 February 2014 20:32:04

Good evening. Here is the report on the midday outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Friday February 7th 2014.


All models show a very deep depression approaching Ireland from the West tonight and carrying a set of fronts East across the UK with attendant heavy rain and increasingly strong winds. the rain will scoot through quite quickly so despite the rain being heavy it shouldn't last too long before clearer and showery weather follows well before dawn. Tomorrow shows a deep Low across Northern Ireland with severe gales and squally showers, perhaps with hail and thunder and snow on Northern hills. Through Sunday the storm system will move North and fill slowly with less windy but still showery weather which may well last into Monday too.  By Tuesday a new storm system will be rattling in from the SW with further gales and heavy rain by midweek.


GFS tonight then shows the rest of next week and weekend as further deep Low pressure areas spread wind and rain across the weekend on regular occasions, heavy at times and with strong winds too. In the low resolution part of the run though improvements do manifest themselves in the shape of a rare visitor to our shores of late known as High pressure which would bring a long awaited dry spells with the emphasis shifting from wind and rain to frost and fog with some sunshine by day.


The GFS Ensembles still show a good deal of unsettled and windy weather to come but the best indication yet of some relief late in the run to something drier and brighter with less rainfall and wind.


UKMO tonight shows another deep Low nearing NW Ireland next Thursday with yet more wind and rain spreading steadily North and East across the UK next Thursday with the likelihood of showers and blustery West winds soon after.


GEM tonight shows further wet and windy spells in association with further Low pressure later next week and the weekend with winds slowly becoming lighter with time.


NAVGEM closes next Friday with deep Low pressure over the UK with further rain at times, heavy and prolonged in places though probably with winds less strong.


ECM does show some changes tonight as it moderates the depth of depressions next week and eventually rises pressure over Europe. The question is will it bring better weather for those areas that most need it and I think the answer is probably No. The rise in pressure to the SE eventually brings the prospect of warm moist air travelling North towards SW Britain and with Low pressure close by to the West heavy rain is still likely towards these areas.


The ECM 9 and 10 Day Mean Charts indicate little overall change to the basic pattern of Low pressure being up to the Nprth and NW with a SW flow likely over the UK with further rain at times in temperatures close to the seasonal average.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.gif


The GFS Jet Stream Summary shows some signs of moving through Week 2 as it buckles and ridges Northwards at times disrupting the pattern of successive Low pressure areas moving East with fine interludes in between.


In Summary tonight although the prospects are still well biased towards unsettled conditions continuing the very worst of the conditions may begin to ease as time passes over the second half of the output tonight. So after some more heavy rain and strong winds further rain at times is likely too later on though with time longer drier periods may begin to develop with rainfall less persistent than of late. Temperatures still do not look like straying far from the seasonal average with no more than hill snow possibilities in the North.


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Maunder Minimum
07 February 2014 21:05:31

I know this is of scant consolation, but I have just been catching up on the weather across the Alps, northern Italy, Slovenia and Serbia - much of western Europe is experiencing extreme weather of one form or another - floods at low lying levels and massive snowfall in the hills and mountains - just look at the rain pushing into Iberia on this forecast:


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn544.gif


 Leading to a direct hit on northern Italy:


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Rtavn724.gif


 


New world order coming.
Medlock Vale Weather
07 February 2014 21:16:29

Good heavens that is nasty deep pressure system http://www.xcweather.co.uk/6h/GB/p1392238800.gif


Places like Aberystwyth will get hammered again, and not to forget the rain in areas that really don't need any more.


Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
tallyho_83
07 February 2014 21:19:08

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Still no update!??

http://www.weathercharts.org/wetterzentraleGFSforecast.htm


This must be the 120th post on this matter


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn421.gif


Go to Wetter where it all works very well


 



 


Yes posted this yesterday as did two other members but why??? Wouild be nice to know rather than to go to Wetter? Is it a glitch?


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tallyho_83
07 February 2014 21:20:39

Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Good heavens that is nasty deep pressure system http://www.xcweather.co.uk/6h/GB/p1392238800.gif


Places like Aberystwyth will get hammered again, and not to forget the rain in areas that really don't need any more.



 


I can't view it!?? :-(


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Gooner
07 February 2014 21:27:33

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Good heavens that is nasty deep pressure system http://www.xcweather.co.uk/6h/GB/p1392238800.gif


Places like Aberystwyth will get hammered again, and not to forget the rain in areas that really don't need any more.



 


I can't view it!?? :-(



Ditto


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


doctormog
07 February 2014 21:28:23
Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Still no update!??

http://www.weathercharts.org/wetterzentraleGFSforecast.htm


This must be the 120th post on this matter


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn421.gif


Go to Wetter where it all works very well


 



 


Yes posted this yesterday as did two other members but why??? Wouild be nice to know rather than to go to Wetter? Is it a glitch?



If you read the rest of this thread the "why" has already been answered (on page 10)😕

The file type extension has been changed in the image URLs (to .gif from .png) on Wetterzentrale therefore unless the other web sites have updated their links the images will not update. Why not just go to WZ to view WZ charts?
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