To be honest a very mild winter is overdue and thats where my money is, nothing scientific to back this up but when you consider 4 out of the last 5 has been cold something has to give.
Here in East Cumbria nothing could be as frustrating as last winter so the thought of a 3 month Bartlett doesnt worry me, yes a 2010 or 2011 winter would be nice but this is the UK and I think we have used up our quota of cold winters for a while.
Andy
Can't figure out where people are getting that from given that 2011/12 was so mild, plus the fact we had so many mild winters during the 90's and early 2000's so, if anything, we are due a long run of very cold winters.
Completely agree. It's ridiculous to suggest a mild winter is overdue. 3 of the last 7 winters here (06/07, 07/08 and 11/12) have been very mild and virtually snowless compared to only one between 1999 and 2006 (99/00).
2009/10 and 2010/11 have been the only properly cold winters in the past decade here and in the case of the latter was entirely due to the extreme December. 2008/09 was average and last winter wasn't all that cold and certainly not snowy.
In any case I'm only interested in seeing decent snowfalls which the likes of 1998/99, 2001/02, 2003/04 all managed despite being milder than average and which last winter didn't despite being colder than average.
No point in being cold if you don't get decent hard frosts or good snowfalls. 3 months of March 2013 weather would be a nightmare come true.
Are you kidding me?! Last winter was insane, it came very late (march instead of december) but the snow was 50ft+ deep in the pennine drifts in Early april!!! I think that march was the cloest I have ever seen the -15C 850 isotherm come. For March it certainly rivalled Dec 2010 in extremity. What we really all secretly want, is for us to have another Dec 2010 or March 2012, but in JANUARY!
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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.