Maunder Minimum
25 January 2013 13:39:00

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Originally Posted by: Surrey John 

Looking back at the predictions on page 5 there are a huge number of people in with a good shout

CET now at 3.0c but expected to bounce back with the last few days of the month lilely to be 3 or 4c above average, based on the latest forecasts probably end up around 4.2c but its difficult to call with these large daily deviations from the mean


With 3.0C to the 24th and another cold minimum last night, I don't think it will rise to anything like 4.2C by the end of the month. If the CET to the 25th stays unchanged at 3.0C then the last 6 days of the month would have to average 9.2C to get up that high!


 


I think it will stay comfortably under 4C, maybe around 3.7C?



Looking at the weather forecasts and the Meto website, it appears to me that the cold will hang on for much of the country until at least tomorrow afternoon.


So the window for January warming is shortening - originally, I expected the mild air to be over us 24 hours sooner than it now appears it will be.


New world order coming.
Ally Pally Snowman
26 January 2013 12:30:53

2.9c how much lower will it go?


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html


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roger63
26 January 2013 13:11:36

Whilst of course the interest of the thread is CET I would hazard aguess that we are heading for one of the dullest Januaries on record.


Here in Winchester including today there have been only 4 days that had  significant sunshine-Jan 1st,11th ,13th and today.Anyone got a feeling of figures to date?

beaufort
26 January 2013 13:18:02

18.9 hours to date against an average of 46.1 hours. 

Global Warming
26 January 2013 13:37:08

Originally Posted by: roger63 


Whilst of course the interest of the thread is CET I would hazard aguess that we are heading for one of the dullest Januaries on record.


Here in Winchester including today there have been only 4 days that had  significant sunshine-Jan 1st,11th ,13th and today.Anyone got a feeling of figures to date?



It varies quite a bit across the country but up to yesterday Odiham and Heathrow had recorded 27% of the normal sunshine for the whole of January with 17.1 and 15.9 hours respectively. Many other parts of England are between 40-50% of normal.


Northern Scotland has done quite well this month. Kinloss has recorded 82% of its normal sunshine although that only amounts to 35.8hours.

Hungry Tiger
26 January 2013 21:42:32

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


Originally Posted by: roger63 


Whilst of course the interest of the thread is CET I would hazard aguess that we are heading for one of the dullest Januaries on record.


Here in Winchester including today there have been only 4 days that had  significant sunshine-Jan 1st,11th ,13th and today.Anyone got a feeling of figures to date?



It varies quite a bit across the country but up to yesterday Odiham and Heathrow had recorded 27% of the normal sunshine for the whole of January with 17.1 and 15.9 hours respectively. Many other parts of England are between 40-50% of normal.


Northern Scotland has done quite well this month. Kinloss has recorded 82% of its normal sunshine although that only amounts to 35.8hours.




I thought it had been dull - but I didn't know it was that bad.


I reckon - now you mention it - that 27% of normal sunshine is close to what I have had round my area.


One reason why the snow lasted so long - no sun to melt it.


 


 


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Rob K
27 January 2013 07:03:55
Philip Eden has 70% for England and Wales up to Jan 21, which will drop quite a bit I imagine.
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Maunder Minimum
28 January 2013 09:00:27
Unexpected frost here last night, with -2 minima.
I suggest that a January CET lower than 4 degrees is now a certainty.

New world order coming.
Frost Hollow
28 January 2013 10:51:29

2.42c here,down 1.48c on Jan 2012


Mean max 4.46c


Mean min 0.38c


Mean min is close to that of 2012,but the mean max is 2.66c lower


I do not record sunshine hours but i know for a fact it has been exceptionally dull with 23/28 days seeing no sunshine at all.

roger63
28 January 2013 12:36:45
roger63
29 January 2013 14:14:13

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html


Latest Had CET is 3.2, -0.6C  ( to 28th) .There are 3 days left of January, which look to be on the mild side.Assuming an average CET of 8c for these three  days then there would be an increase of 0.46C on the monthly CET leaving it around 3.7  or -0.1 versus mean. 


 


The average  for winter Dec Jan combined would be 4.25 bang on the 1961-90 mean.

Rob K
29 January 2013 21:19:13

Originally Posted by: roger63 


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html


Latest Had CET is 3.2, -0.6C  ( to 28th) .There are 3 days left of January, which look to be on the mild side.Assuming an average CET of 8c for these three  days then there would be an increase of 0.46C on the monthly CET leaving it around 3.7  or -0.1 versus mean. 


 


The average  for winter Dec Jan combined would be 4.25 bang on the 1961-90 mean.



Yes a very average winter so far, if you go by the stats, which conceal some pretty wild swings in temperature: two cold weeks, three mild weeks, two cold weeks, one mild week, roughly.


 


But I suppose most "average" winters also contain such contrasts.


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roger63
Ally Pally Snowman
31 January 2013 14:18:12

3.6c to the 30th. That could be the final figure?


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html


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Caz
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31 January 2013 18:53:25

It's going to end close to average.


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Gavin P
01 February 2013 13:15:40

The CET came out at 3.5;


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cetml1659on.dat


The coldest January since 2010.


Congrats to Taylor1740 who got the CET exactly right.


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Darren S
01 February 2013 13:27:33

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


 


I now expect the final figure at the end of the month to come in at 3.45C



That was a damn good punt from a week out. It actually came out at 3.46C:


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_mean_2013


This was exactly 0.25C below the estimated values mean, which came out at 3.71C.


Darren
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South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
ChrisHell
02 February 2013 11:32:27

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


The CET came out at 3.5;



Interesting that the Manley CET came out slightly higher at 3.7


http://www.climate-uk.com/

Hungry Tiger
02 February 2013 16:05:39

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


The CET came out at 3.5;


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cetml1659on.dat


The coldest January since 2010.


Congrats to Taylor1740 who got the CET exactly right.



I didn't get many points for this one - I went for 4.5C as I recall.


No I didn't - just ckecked. I went for 6C.



 


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Global Warming
03 February 2013 00:03:13

Congratulations to Taylor1740 who correctly predicted a figure of 3.5C for January.


Not surprisingly the minimum temperature was only just below average due to the large amount of cloud around during the month. The maximum temperature was more than 1C below average.


The rolling 12 month CET mean now stands at 9.54C. This is the lowest figure since August 2011. It could go lower yet because we still have March 2012 in the rolling mean which was a very warm month. The mean could get down to around 9.3C if we have a cool February and March. Only Nov 2010 - Jan 2011 were cooler than this in recent times. You then have to go back to Nov 1996 to Jan 1997 to find a figure lower than 9.3C.





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