ARTzeman
Wednesday, July 20, 2022 2:05:20 PM

Met Office Hadley Center CET

18.2c      Anomaly     2,2c provisional to  19th.




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Rob K
Wednesday, July 20, 2022 2:10:30 PM

Originally Posted by: Chidog 

Minimum yesterday: 18.9

Maximum: 37.3 (!!!)

No mean released, but my maths says 28.1. Hottest day ever by 2.8C!

I am not sure how they got 37.3 because the mean of the stations was 37.2C and then it is supposed to be revised downwards by 0.2C isn't it?

Mean has also been updated on the website to 28.1C, as you calculated.

 

Is that a record for all three then?


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Bertwhistle
Wednesday, July 20, 2022 2:21:15 PM

Originally Posted by: Chidog 

Minimum yesterday: 18.9

Maximum: 37.3 (!!!)

No mean released, but my maths says 28.1. Hottest day ever by 2.8C!

That minimum, if it is retained, beats the highest 2 I can see in the series by 0.1C: 29/7/1948 and 11/8/1997 - 

unless anyone is aware of other higher values- I checked 2018,2006,2003, 1995, 1983, 1976, 1975 (3rd I think with 18.5 on 5th)


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Rob K
Wednesday, July 20, 2022 2:43:41 PM

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

 

That minimum, if it is retained, beats the highest 2 I can see in the series by 0.1C: 29/7/1948 and 11/8/1997 - 

unless anyone is aware of other higher values- I checked 2018,2006,2003, 1995, 1983, 1976, 1975 (3rd I think with 18.5 on 5th)

 

A search of https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/data/mintemp_daily_totals.txt gives the follow 18.x figures:

1948-07-29   18.7

1949-09-05   18.4

1975-08-05   18.5

1997-08-11   18.8

2001-07-29   18.3

2004-08-09   18.5

2006-07-26   18.0

2020-08-12   18.5

2020-08-13   18.0

2022-07-19   18.9

but also....

2016-07-20   19.5

 

 

So July 20 2016 seems to be the record minimum, if that is accurate.


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Bertwhistle
Wednesday, July 20, 2022 7:03:50 PM

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

 

 

A search of https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/data/mintemp_daily_totals.txt gives the follow 18.x figures:

1948-07-29   18.7

1949-09-05   18.4

1975-08-05   18.5

1997-08-11   18.8

2001-07-29   18.3

2004-08-09   18.5

2006-07-26   18.0

2020-08-12   18.5

2020-08-13   18.0

2022-07-19   18.9

but also....

2016-07-20   19.5

 

 

So July 20 2016 seems to be the record minimum, if that is accurate.

Another great analysis Rob; thanks. Didn't think of 2016 but I remember now that was our Sports Day- absolutely blistering evening.


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Spring Sun Winter Dread
Wednesday, July 20, 2022 7:12:19 PM
That was a very hot day as well so surprised the CET wasn't a record breaker
lanky
Wednesday, July 20, 2022 7:13:04 PM

Yestrday's provisional CET max was 37.3C and (apart from yesterday's 34.8) beat the previous record max of 34.2 by over 3C

In stats terms that is just about 1 sigma (1 standard deviation) more than the previous outlier (from about 4 to 5)

In terms of return periods that is a huge difference and despite the dire forecasts of climate change I doubt there will be anything to match this CET max for a very long time to come (probably not in many of our lifetimes)

There may well be more regional records broken but the CET covers such a broad swathe of the country


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Rob K
Wednesday, July 20, 2022 8:10:33 PM

Originally Posted by: Spring Sun Winter Dread 

That was a very hot day as well so surprised the CET wasn't a record breaker

July 19 2016 was a 30.9 CET max - the real heat was confined to the SE with Wisley hitting 36.4C.


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ARTzeman
Thursday, July 21, 2022 10:53:07 AM

Metcheck           18.71c       Anomaly      2.24c

Netweather        19.4c         Anomaly      2.91c

Peasedown St John   10.01c   Anomaly    1.71c.  




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Spring Sun Winter Dread
Thursday, July 21, 2022 10:55:14 AM
2016 was also notable for hitting 34C in mid September

Arguably just as remarkable as this week's 40C being that late in the year

Rob K
Thursday, July 21, 2022 11:47:14 AM

Originally Posted by: lanky 

Yestrday's provisional CET max was 37.3C and (apart from yesterday's 34.8) beat the previous record max of 34.2 by over 3C

In stats terms that is just about 1 sigma (1 standard deviation) more than the previous outlier (from about 4 to 5)

In terms of return periods that is a huge difference and despite the dire forecasts of climate change I doubt there will be anything to match this CET max for a very long time to come (probably not in many of our lifetimes)

There may well be more regional records broken but the CET covers such a broad swathe of the country

Yes as I just noted in another thread, that CET max would have been a new UK temperature record on its own before 2003!


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Bertwhistle
Thursday, July 21, 2022 2:01:25 PM

18.3 CET to 20th.

 

Edit: also interesting that 19th July was the heat peak in 2006 as well.


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Bertwhistle
Friday, July 22, 2022 2:29:35 PM

CET prov (hopefully not too prov now they've changed the system) 18.2°C so back a pip.


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Bertwhistle
Saturday, July 23, 2022 9:29:43 AM

This month has been quite remarkable locally.

I have not recorded a maximum temperature below 21°C and that temperature was on the first. It was 22.9°C on 5th and every other day has been >23°C. Yesterday was the first day < 25°C since the 7th. There have been 8 days of 27°C or more.The first week had fairly cool nights but the rest have been above average. Highest max however was a (comparatively) modest 33.1°C.

 


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Gavin D
Saturday, July 23, 2022 2:14:38 PM

Hadley

18.2c to the 22nd

2.2c above the 61 to 90 average
1.7c above the 81 to 10 average

Hungry Tiger
Monday, July 25, 2022 11:04:36 AM

I wonder where we are now.


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Monday, July 25, 2022 11:19:32 AM

I wonder where Art is?  


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Hungry Tiger
Monday, July 25, 2022 11:28:48 AM

Originally Posted by: Caz 

I wonder where Art is?  

I was thinking the same.


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johncs2016
Monday, July 25, 2022 11:31:37 AM

Originally Posted by: Caz 

I wonder where Art is?  

I always look out for Arty on the daily CC and monthly rainfall threads, but I have also just noticed he has posted anything on either or those two threads either in recent days that I know of.

Hopefully, he will just be enjoying a well deserved break and is perfectly OK.

If that is the case, I'm sure that he will be back before too long, all nice and refreshed from that (albeit, with him making fewer of his famous typos as a result).

 


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Rob K
Monday, July 25, 2022 1:35:49 PM

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

I wonder where we are now.

Only up one notch, 18.3C to the 24th.

Another 0.1C would put us in the top 10 Julys, joint 10th with 1757 and 1808. A 0.2C increase would tie us with 1976 (don't tell GB News!)

I see that since the Hadley figures were revised, July 2006 has gone up to 19.8C. It used to be 19.7C.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/data/meantemp_ranked_monthly.txt

 


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