bledur
17 July 2022 18:21:02

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Idiots in my local FB group out in force. “It was hotter in 1976!”

No it wasn’t.


 Up till now it was so atm they are correct. Also depends where in the country you are. In 76 we were in the hottest area of the heatwave. looking at chart predictions for this area for the next 2 days we are not, possibly not even reaching the highs set in 76 at Southampton.

Rob K
23 July 2022 18:52:32

Originally Posted by: bledur 


 


 Up till now it was so atm they are correct. Also depends where in the country you are. In 76 we were in the hottest area of the heatwave. looking at chart predictions for this area for the next 2 days we are not, possibly not even reaching the highs set in 76 at Southampton.



 


Anyone still bleating about 1976 needs to be shown the maps on this page! https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/weather-and-climate/2022/july-heat-review


 


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Rob K
25 July 2022 18:34:29
I heard on the radio news this evening that the Met Office are warning of a potential heatwave early next week. First I have heard of it although the long-ranger does say "there is the potential for some locally hot weather in the southeast".
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Jiries
29 July 2022 06:41:34

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62323048


Feel sorry for them as we had not this problem back in August 2003 heatwave which was forecasted by beautiful Helen Willets and that day she put was celebrated and support when we reached 100F scale.


This time the opposite and no cheer for 40C which is a milestone.   July had been extremely horrible month for them.

GezM
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29 July 2022 08:45:22

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62323048


Feel sorry for them as we had not this problem back in August 2003 heatwave which was forecasted by beautiful Helen Willets and that day she put was celebrated and support when we reached 100F scale.


This time the opposite and no cheer for 40C which is a milestone.   July had been extremely horrible month for them.



That is a sad reflection on today’s society. Unfortunately people can get away with spiteful and even threatening behaviour on social media. Platforms like Twitter just allow opinions to be polarised and for conspiracy theories to spread like a heatwave wildfire. There is a reason why most people who believe in a lot of these theories have a low IQ! 


I did notice that as the heatwave was building and even on the ‘big day’ itself, the BBC online reports always had a paragraph at the end implying that this extreme heat was as a result of climate change. I felt this was inappropriate because it was an unnecessary part of the story at the time and could have been seen as being provocative to the AGW brigade.  I’d have much preferred them to stick to the facts and leave the Met Office and other expert scientists to do the analysis and draw conclusions after the event.


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Brian Gaze
29 July 2022 09:05:40

Originally Posted by: GezM 


 


That is a sad reflection on today’s society. Unfortunately people can get away with spiteful and even threatening behaviour on social media. Platforms like Twitter just allow opinions to be polarised and for conspiracy theories to spread like a heatwave wildfire. There is a reason why most people who believe in a lot of these theories have a low IQ! 


I did notice that as the heatwave was building and even on the ‘big day’ itself, the BBC online reports always had a paragraph at the end implying that this extreme heat was as a result of climate change. I felt this was inappropriate because it was an unnecessary part of the story at the time and could have been seen as being provocative to the AGW brigade.  I’d have much preferred them to stick to the facts and leave the Met Office and other expert scientists to do the analysis and draw conclusions after the event.



Discussion about it here:


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23077&p=4


 


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Roger Parsons
30 July 2022 15:09:33

Just read this on Yahoo. Hope this is the right place to park it - if not Mods please move it.
Ted Hennessey, PA
Sat, 30 July 2022 at 3:00 pm

"Met Office forecaster Tom Morgan told the PA news agency: “The main theme over the coming days will be wet weather, in stark contrast to the rest of July.
“Many areas will be very warm and humid with plenty of cloud around, even overnight, with temperatures as high as 20C in the early hours, meaning uncomfortable evenings for sleeping are in store.
“The odd rumble of thunder may be heard in isolated areas, and it’s going to be pretty muggy and humid, typical of conditions seen in tropical countries.
“Temperatures could climb as high as 29C during the day in southern areas, but it’s going to feel uncomfortable and clammy.”

Tropical weather to hit UK with ‘muggy’ mixture of 29C heat and rain
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/tropical-weather-hit-uk-muggy-140058059.html



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Jim-55
12 August 2022 10:52:41

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Idiots in my local FB group out in force. “It was hotter in 1976!”

No it wasn’t.


I have no idea how hot it was in 1976 but I do know it was hot for some time. Most of the summer I spent at the Royal Agricultural Show at Stoneleigh, Coventry erecting the stands and farm buildings for a company for the show, most of what I remember was the heat and thunderstorms. At the latter stages of our stay I sign wrote the stand signs and the one next to us thus spending a few days in Warwickshire hospital with severe sunburn to my back. Yes it was hot and prolonged so much so our local river (Frome) dried up, it's still flowing ok at the moment so I'm not sure this summer is as bad, yet.


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TimS
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12 August 2022 10:55:23

Originally Posted by: Jim-55 


 


I have no idea how hot it was in 1976 but I do know it was hot for some time. Most of the summer I spent at the Royal Agricultural Show at Stoneleigh, Coventry erecting the stands and farm buildings for a company for the show, most of what I remember was the heat and thunderstorms. At the latter stages of our stay I sign wrote the stand signs and the one next to us thus spending a few days in Warwickshire hospital with severe sunburn to my back. Yes it was hot and prolonged so much so our local river (Frome) dried up, it's still flowing ok at the moment so I'm not sure this summer is as bad, yet.



1976 was the culmination of a historical two year drought starting in summer 1975. Quite hard to compare the two. Our 2022 drought started this winter. 


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RobR
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12 August 2022 14:04:03

Originally Posted by: GezM 


 


That is a sad reflection on today’s society. Unfortunately people can get away with spiteful and even threatening behaviour on social media. Platforms like Twitter just allow opinions to be polarised and for conspiracy theories to spread like a heatwave wildfire. There is a reason why most people who believe in a lot of these theories have a low IQ! 


I did notice that as the heatwave was building and even on the ‘big day’ itself, the BBC online reports always had a paragraph at the end implying that this extreme heat was as a result of climate change. I felt this was inappropriate because it was an unnecessary part of the story at the time and could have been seen as being provocative to the AGW brigade.  I’d have much preferred them to stick to the facts and leave the Met Office and other expert scientists to do the analysis and draw conclusions after the event.



 


They did a piece of BBC News at 10 on climate change again yesterday which was largely similar to the stuff back when we hit 40C. I'm not some conspiracy nut by any means but I have noticed them starting to drop in stuff like that in written articles without a quote from a scientist or the Met Office which really fuels the nutters on social media and doesn't help the BBCs reputation either in the long run from those who hate paying the licence fee.


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13 August 2022 22:32:38

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

https://twitter.com/NoContextBrits/status/1557662017795887105?s=20&t=eyt77pLHRMbAoDuO4fVWMw

Lol


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Rob K
14 August 2022 10:46:47
The Met Office long rangers seem to contradict each other.

The first one which runs until the 27th says “Unsettled conditions will dominate in most areas towards the end of the period.”

But the second one says “The conditions are likely to become generally more settled towards the end of August.”
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moomin75
14 August 2022 10:49:10

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

The Met Office long rangers seem to contradict each other.

The first one which runs until the 27th says “Unsettled conditions will dominate in most areas towards the end of the period.”

But the second one says “The conditions are likely to become generally more settled towards the end of August.”


Hedging their bets so they can't be wrong.


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Ally Pally Snowman
14 August 2022 11:20:14

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

The Met Office long rangers seem to contradict each other.

The first one which runs until the 27th says “Unsettled conditions will dominate in most areas towards the end of the period.”

But the second one says “The conditions are likely to become generally more settled towards the end of August.”


As I've said before their online stuff is just shite sometimes.  


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23 August 2022 11:30:35

Astonishing Update:


Metoffice have just confirmed that the highest min ever recorded has been upgraded from 25.8C to 26.8C at Shirburn Model Farm, Oxfordshire. Kenley Airfield loses its record.


I will update with a link when I have it.


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David M Porter
23 August 2022 11:34:30

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Hungary's weather chief sacked over wrong forecast


 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62640051?xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D&at_custom3=%40BBCNews&at_medium=custom7&at_custom2=twitter&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_campaign=64&at_custom4=12F9CEA2-2253-11ED-99C0-AEB84744363C



Oooops!


Seems a bit harsh IMO.


 


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tierradelfuego
23 August 2022 12:16:38

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Astonishing Update:


Metoffice have just confirmed that the highest min ever recorded has been upgraded from 25.8C to 26.8C at Shirburn Model Farm, Oxfordshire. Kenley Airfield loses its record.


I will update with a link when I have it.



 


That is crazy, not sure I will ever get my head around min temps and all the factors involved.


20 or so miles away from that rural location in our rural location, our highest min was 16.xc in the hot weather recently. We haven't had a night not drop below 19c in the last 8 years of living here.


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tallyho_83
30 August 2022 00:44:01
Thought this is an interesting read I'd like to share:

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/cold-anomaly-stratosphere-polar-vortex-volcanic-cooling-winter-influence-fa/ 
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