Global Warming
01 May 2022 20:46:23

This thread is for all comments, discussion, and analysis of temperatures in the UK during May, with particular emphasis on the Central England Temperature (CET), for the simple reason that it is the longest-running temperature series in the world with over 360 years of data. But you can comment on any interesting temperature statistics or data from across the UK, including your own backyard.  


For those taking part in the competition, all CET predictions for May should be sent directly to me via the forum private message system. Please do not post them directly into the thread.      


Historic CET summary for May


1981-2010 (30 years) 11.66C


1991-2020 (30 years) 11.90C


2001-2020 (20 years) 12.02C


Last May was fairly chilly with a CET of just 10.1C. Prior to that 4 of the previous 5 years saw a CET above 12C with the highest being 13.3C in 2018.   


Here is a chart of the May CET for all years since 1961  


Direct link to a larger version of the chart


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Current model output     


GEFS - the extended run from 0z on 30 April shows the GEFS mean above average every day from the 4th. That is very unusual and suggests a good chance of a fairly warm month.


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49069&model=gfs&var=2&run=99&lid=ENS&bw= 


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49069&model=gfs&var=5&run=99&lid=ENS&bw=


ECM (for de Bilt) shows a rather cool first week with something potentially warmer after that. Lots of scatter by the middle of the month but one or two runs do reach 30C surface temperature. The control run stays average / cool though.   


https://www.weerplaza.nl/gdata/eps/eps_pluim_tt_06260.png


Met Office contingency planners outlook    


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/metofficegovuk/pdf/business/public-sector/civil-contingency/3moutlook-mjj-v2.pdf


No one month summary this time. Really strange that Met O sometimes has a one month and 3 month summary in the contingency planners outlook and sometimes just has a 3 month summary. The 3 month outlook suggests only a 10% chance of cool weather. Rainfall shows little deviation from average in terms of probability. Very little narrative commentary this month.

ARTzeman
02 May 2022 09:46:46

Met Office Hadley       10.9c       Anomaly       1.5c provisional to 1st


Metcheck                    10.39c     Anomaly        -1.02c


Netweather                 11.03c     Anomaly        -0.28c


Peasedown St John     9.6c     Anomaly     -2.0c.






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ARTzeman
03 May 2022 09:42:57

Met Office Hadley     11.4c     Anomaly    2.0c provisional to 2nd


Metcheck                  10.81c   Anomaly    -0.60c


Netweather               11.47c   Anomaly    0.18c


Peasedown St John   10.2c   Anomaly   -1.4c.






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springsunshine
03 May 2022 11:24:52

It will be interesting to see the predictions for this month. I have gone for a warm/hot May at over 13c


Ive a feeling this month and June are going to be the best months of the summer season.

Saint Snow
03 May 2022 13:20:12

Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


It will be interesting to see the predictions for this month. I have gone for a warm/hot May at over 13c


Ive a feeling this month and June are going to be the best months of the summer season.



 


I've gone for 'warmish', but am already thinking it's going to be too low (and I'm sure I'll be near the bottom of the prediction pile)


 



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Hungry Tiger
03 May 2022 14:22:24

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


I've gone for 'warmish', but am already thinking it's going to be too low (and I'm sure I'll be near the bottom of the prediction pile)


 



I've gone for 12.0C reckon I might have gone too low now.


Just looked up - The all time record for May is 15.1C in 1833.


In some ways I reckon that's ripe for picking.


 


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GezM
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03 May 2022 17:03:33

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


I've gone for 'warmish', but am already thinking it's going to be too low (and I'm sure I'll be near the bottom of the prediction pile)


 



Me too and I already have the same worry as you. Even chilly Stonyhurst is looking quite warm with mild nights - which is often the crucial factor. Of course, model output and forecasts can change quite quickly so still very early days


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Spring Sun Winter Dread
03 May 2022 19:07:38
The May and June record are both ripe for picking.
Both pre 20th century artefacts now and with modern background warming and the same kind of synoptics they would surely be blown out of the water
Ally Pally Snowman
04 May 2022 09:11:14

The outlook can change quickly of course but atm it looks very warm.  Wonder if anyone went for 14c+?


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
ARTzeman
04 May 2022 09:55:54

Met Office Hadley       11.4c      Anomaly       1.9c provisional to 3rd


Metcheck                    10.73c    Anomaly       -0.67c


Netweather                 11.37c    Anomaly       0.08c


Peasedown St John    10.97c     Anomaly     -0.63c.           






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ARTzeman
05 May 2022 09:38:35

Mey Office Hadley       11.7c      Anomaly     2.0c provisional to 4th


Metcheck                     10.77c   Anomaly      -0.64c


Netweather                  11.51c   Anomaly      0.21c


Peasedown St john     10.74c    Anomaly     -0.86c.


  






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Hungry Tiger
05 May 2022 14:13:25

Originally Posted by: Spring Sun Winter Dread 

The May and June record are both ripe for picking.
Both pre 20th century artefacts now and with modern background warming and the same kind of synoptics they would surely be blown out of the water



18.2C For June - which was in 1846. That's quite a nut to crack. But these days almost anything is possible.


 


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Spring Sun Winter Dread
06 May 2022 09:46:11
17C in 1976 is really quite a long way off that and it remains our benchmark for hot Junes. September 2006 at 16.8C was hotter than any June since
The mega June which starts hot and stays hot, perhaps with a few thundery interludes and muggy nights to inflate the minima, is surely coming at some point....
ARTzeman
06 May 2022 09:55:19

Met Office Hadley       11.9c     Anomaly     2.1c provisional to 5th


Metcheck                    11.26c   Anomaly     -0.14c


Netweather                 11.81c   Anomaly     0.52c


Peasewdown  St John   11.72c    Anomaly     1.12c.        






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ARTzeman
07 May 2022 09:44:30

Met Office Hadley        12.1c     Anomaly      2.2c provisional to 6th


Metcheck                     11.62c   Anomaly      0.22c


Netweather                  12.13c   Anomaly      0.84c


Peasedown St John      11.95c     Anomaly     0.35c.        






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Bolty
07 May 2022 18:50:31

Originally Posted by: Spring Sun Winter Dread 

17C in 1976 is really quite a long way off that and it remains our benchmark for hot Junes. September 2006 at 16.8C was hotter than any June since
The mega June which starts hot and stays hot, perhaps with a few thundery interludes and muggy nights to inflate the minima, is surely coming at some point....


After December 2015 and the ease of which we are recording above average CETs, there's a few months that I think are bound to smash their records at some point.


March is one... the record is 9.2, and considering we had a December of 9.7, I think a double figure March is well within the realm of possibilty.


May is another. The record is 15.1 (I think), yet recently we seem to stall in the low 13s. It's only a matter of time before that is smashed.


October as well...


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Spring Sun Winter Dread
07 May 2022 23:13:35
Yep
Oct 2001 was a really lacklustre record breaker aswell being mostly dull and wet with some flooding in places. I remember being surprised to hear on the news that it had beaten the CET record (this competition not being a thing then )... It was mainly the minima that pushed it past the much more pleasant month in 1995 .
Would be good to see a sunny and dry one take its place
ARTzeman
08 May 2022 09:42:32

Met Office Hadley      12.3c       Anomaly      2.3c provisional to 7th


Metcheck                   11.69c     Anomaly      0.28c


Netweather                 12.33c    Anomaly      1.04c


Peasedown St John     12.2c     Anomaly     0.6c.






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Bertwhistle
08 May 2022 10:43:54

Originally Posted by: Bolty 


 


After December 2015 and the ease of which we are recording above average CETs, there's a few months that I think are bound to smash their records at some point.


March is one... the record is 9.2, and considering we had a December of 9.7, I think a double figure March is well within the realm of possibilty.


May is another. The record is 15.1 (I think), yet recently we seem to stall in the low 13s. It's only a matter of time before that is smashed.


October as well...



I agree- though not necessarily with the same months. With a 9.7C December,November should surely be able to manage 2 degrees up on that- the feeble 10.1 in 1994 is only a tad up on the December record. But 15 in May and 18 in June will be very hard nuts to crack, I reckon. A July 20+ is more likely.


That said, only 1994's November was warmer than Dec15, reflecting how totally exceptional that month was.


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Hungry Tiger
08 May 2022 14:10:42

I can see a 14.0C coming out of the likes of the next two weeks.


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