backtobasics
10 February 2021 22:59:16
One thing seems certain is for HP to be close by so the ground can dry out a bit I don't think we can rule out a fairly quick return to more cold just yet or even no real warm up at all. My snow needs have been fulfilled now though so aside from more rain I'll take what comes.
Tim A
10 February 2021 23:03:19
We can dream but that would potentially be chart of the winter for many, especially eastern slopes.
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11 February 2021 05:33:23
Think someone broke GFSp been stuck on 96hrs since 5am. Frozen?😉
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Ally Pally Snowman
11 February 2021 06:13:13

Lovely Springlike run from the GFS this morning. 


 


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Justin W
11 February 2021 06:21:53

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Lovely Springlike run from the GFS this morning. 


 



Yes. Perfect gardening weather down here by the looks of it. If the ground can dry out


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Ally Pally Snowman
11 February 2021 06:24:00

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


Yes. Perfect gardening weather down here by the looks of it. If the ground can dry out



 


Yes not just very mild but dry . In these Covid times the UK needs this as much as us weather nerds love our snow.


 


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Brian Gaze
11 February 2021 06:50:30

Significant warm up beginning to surface on the GEFS. With the blocking patterns around it still looks like an early taste of spring or last bit of winter are both more likely than a standard Atlantic flow. 



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Gusty
11 February 2021 07:30:52

A warm up to something close to average here after the 15th but nothing that can be classed as mild. This is probably due to the fact that for here, at least, its likely we'll still be tugging in relatively continental air at times.


All the time that breeze is due south or slightly east of south we need to accept the risk that we could just as easily be thrown back into the freezer as that of an Atlantic return.


There are still a number of GEFS suggesting the cold could soon return.


Caution is the buzz word this morning for those expecting a swift warm up next week.


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49909&model=gfs&var=5&run=0&lid=ENS&bw=1


 


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Whether Idle
11 February 2021 08:00:30

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


A warm up to something close to average here after the 15th but nothing that can be classed as mild. This is probably due to the fact that for here, at least, its likely we'll still be tugging in relatively continental air at times.


All the time that breeze is due south or slightly east of south we need to accept the risk that we could just as easily be thrown back into the freezer as that of an Atlantic return.


There are still a number of GEFS suggesting the cold could soon return.


Caution is the buzz word this morning for those expecting a swift warm up next week.


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49909&model=gfs&var=5&run=0&lid=ENS&bw=1


 



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doctormog
11 February 2021 08:09:44
I can see a coolish southerly influenced anticyclonic setup of sorts in a week or so (post breakdown) but not really anything like the current and recent conditions.

As long as it is not too wet (or too much easterly muck) I would be happy enough.
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11 February 2021 08:19:17

Jetstream to Thu 18th running across the Atlantic quite strongly but running out of steam as it reaches the UK then a big loop developing around the UK with the flow (for the first time in a while) around the N of the UK.


GFS - as previous forecast, LP on Atlantic up against HP over Scandia with quite a strong mostly S-ly flow between (SE -ly tendency at first, SW-ly later i.e. around Wed 17th) then HP moves out of Europe and slowly moves W-wards over UK through to Fri 26th with a teaser N-ly on the following day. 


GEFS - see Brian's chart above. Similar in the N. The few cold outliers presumably because the S-ly flow could flip to SE rather than SW


ECM - The Hp stays over the near continent/Baltic and the S-ly flow is still in place Sun 21st


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Justin W
11 February 2021 08:22:54

I anticipate a very mild ssw flow and then another blossom killer blast just as spring arrives! Cos that’s generally what happens!


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MRayner
11 February 2021 08:27:18

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Significant warm up beginning to surface on the GEFS. With the blocking patterns around it still looks like an early taste of spring or last bit of winter are both more likely than a standard Atlantic flow. 



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David M Porter
11 February 2021 08:41:55

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Lovely Springlike run from the GFS this morning. 


 



It would certainly be much more settled than recently for many areas, which would be especially good news for areas that have been affected by flooding recently.


In terms of temperatures, a lot will depend upon where exactly the HP sits, should it develop as shown. From what I can see of the GFS 00z, it looks as though it may well be quite mild for a time mid-way through the run but then temperatures then dropping a bit as the high takes up residence over the UK with signs at the end of a possible retrogression northwards.


 


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Gooner
11 February 2021 09:05:26

Looks like game over  , couldn't get snow in this cold set up , I think IMO that's it for the Winter IMBY 


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The Beast from the East
11 February 2021 09:10:15

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Looks like game over  , couldn't get snow in this cold set up , I think IMO that's it for the Winter IMBY 



Probably, but still enough uncertainty in the upstream pattern, GEM control run is still ok. Blocking to east is never going to be far away


Disappointing no doubt considering what the models were showing a few days ago


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Gooner
11 February 2021 09:13:37

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


Probably, but still enough uncertainty in the upstream pattern, GEM control run is still ok. Blocking to east is never going to be far away


Disappointing no doubt considering what the models were showing a few days ago



Can't see it , we have had some cold 850's , I doubt very much we will get a second bite , might get a fleeting blink and you miss it type scenario but any longevity I feel has gone.


Met Office using the word " MILD" more frequently now .


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Saint Snow
11 February 2021 09:44:09

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


Probably, but still enough uncertainty in the upstream pattern, GEM control run is still ok. Blocking to east is never going to be far away


Disappointing no doubt considering what the models were showing a few days ago



 


It's just scrabbling around for scraps, though, like rats in a bin.


At least both GFS and GEM have pulled back from a wet breakdown, both now showing at least some snow for the west as the front moves in. GFS less snowy, but a generally dry breakdown.


GEM, though, is a cracker for breakdown snow. I wouldn't say no to this happening:




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11 February 2021 09:51:54

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


It's just scrabbling around for scraps, though, like rats in a bin.


At least both GFS and GEM have pulled back from a wet breakdown, both now showing at least some snow for the west as the front moves in. GFS less snowy, but a generally dry breakdown.


GEM, though, is a cracker for breakdown snow. I wouldn't say no to this happening:




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Saint Snow
11 February 2021 09:58:16

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


Reminds of NYE 2000....



 



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