The Sahara desert has had snow.

Yes. I know it can snow in deserts. But incredibly rare, but even so.

There has been settling snow in the Sahara desert, and nothing for some parts of lowland Britain so far.

You couldn’t make it up

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I'm starting to wonder if this could be a truly historic winter? Given La Nina, the ideal position in the solar cycle and SSWs appearing like confetti it still seems just about possible this winter will finish above CET. 

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I'm starting to wonder if this could be a truly historic winter? Given La Nina, the ideal position in the solar cycle and SSWs appearing like confetti it still seems just about possible this winter will finish above CET. 

 

It could be and I think you are right Brain.

As I mentioned a while ago - we don't have a strong La Nina, the IOD is negative we are coming out of solar min, have a developing easterly QBO. So far this winter we have had persistent neg-AO/-NAO since beginning of winter we have had two reversals of zonal winds at 10hpa and two SSW's and expecting another one again in the coming weeks. How many SSW's and reversals of zonal winds do we need!? We have had a substantial amount of northern blocking and for a while, when many recent winters we would struggle to get a neg-NAO/AO and a reversal of zonal flow at 10hpa let alone northern blocking yet we still haven't had any proper cold snowy weather like other parts of the world. After the snow in Spain last week there was more snow in s France, Athens, as well as Istanbul yesterday and North Africa/Sahara. A few days ago it was 2c in Nicossia, Cyprus. Last night here in Exeter it never fell below 12c. Today we have more cloud and drizzle. YUCK Anyway my point is thus. - There is cold air and snow around but not for the south of the UK. Really upsets me. I know Jiries feels the same too. 

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More stations (>30) in WMO block 24 went below -50C last night than for a long time. Verkhoyansk (famous for its record 38C last June) set the pace with -57.8C.......old man winter still seems alive and well in various parts of the northern hemisphere.....

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The Express just won't give it a break and back down..

11 inches of snow" - downgrade by the Express standards - a few days ago they went for 20" of snow.

 

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The Express just won't give it a break and back down..

11 inches of snow" - downgrade by the Express standards - a few days ago they went for 20" of snow.

 

Fine if they were reporting the Japs snow storms. When the Met office will take legal action against Express who make fake news about this?

More stations (>30) in WMO block 24 went below -50C last night than for a long time. Verkhoyansk (famous for its record 38C last June) set the pace with -57.8C.......old man winter still seems alive and well in various parts of the northern hemisphere.....

Yes  -posted in the media thread - there is cold and snow around, beit Spain, Greece, Turkey or Japan.

Yesterday temperatures in Moscow never rose much above -20c - Coldest daytime max for many winters and here with article re the cold over Siberia (which was of course forecast to have a much milder winter by many long range seasonal model outputs).

https://www.accuweather.com/en/winter-weather/extreme-cold-sends-temperatures-plummeting-to-73-below-zero-in-siberia/883874?utm_medium=push&utm_source=pushly&utm_content=777125&utm_campaign=pushly_manual

 

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Snowing again in Edinburgh for about the sixth time this winter and I'm halfway through the big bag of grit I got in December, that's £6.20 this winter has cost me 😞

Snowing again in Edinburgh for about the sixth time this winter and I'm halfway through the big bag of grit I got in December, that's £6.20 this winter has cost me :-(

I’ve got plenty of salt on my windows, car and anywhere else the Atlantic cares to spray it.

Looking at the forecast you might have to raid the local yellow grip box😏

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Looking at the forecast you might have to raid the local yellow grip box😏

They disappeared ages ago in my area 😞😖

 

Fine if they were reporting the Japs snow storms. 

 

Aren't you becoming a little... obsessed, George?

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Snowing again in Edinburgh for about the sixth time this winter and I'm halfway through the big bag of grit I got in December, that's £6.20 this winter has cost me :-(

Come on - you're a Scot. Can't you cut the grains in half and make it go twice as far? 

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Almost incessant rain turned to snow yesterday evening as colder undercut the very active front, and 2-3cm soon built up.

Then it turned back to rain, despite the temp not changing.

The vagaries of the British climate 

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The vile cold rain continues here with the added unpleasantness of an increasingly strong wind. The BBC had a "feels like" temperature of -3ºC for here this afternoon to go with the rain.

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The vile cold rain continues here with the added unpleasantness of an increasingly strong wind. The BBC had a "feels like" temperature of -3ºC for here this afternoon to go with the rain.

Do you think there are any niche weather fanatics who like cold rain?  They would be in Nirvana here this winter...

The vilest day yet from this degenerate, utterly repulsive, tiresome and unpleasant filth strewn horror season of unrepentant garbage.

Not only do we have to endure yet more toxic cold rain, when traditionally less snowy parts of the country get snow, but now the added misery of stong winds too.

I wrote this winter off before it started and it's clear now that nothing is going to change. It's just getting ever more hopeless and depressing with each week that passes. Could never have imagined it would be this ridiculously foul and awful. How the hell can Edinburgh get yet another snowfall when even inland Aberdeenshire gets rain? 

It's beyond credulity. The whole of NE Scotland even 30 miles from the coast now has the same dire climate as Rattray Head and Fraserburgh. Absolutely horrific. Aboyne must have averaged 40 days of snow a year. All it had last winter were a few days of maybe 5cm at the end of February and this year it's had no more than 3cm. This is the current dismal scene at the Gliding Club even further inland from Aboyne towards Dinnet almost 30 miles from the coast

https://www.deesideglidingclub.co.uk/web-cams/ 

The unbelievably pathetic run of winters from 2014 to 2018 seem almost decent compared to the even more stupefyingly dreadful dross we've had thrust upon us over the last three years.

I'll write next winter off as well now and the one after and the one after that. Just seems to be stuck in a hopeless rut of never ending misery. Everything good and enjoyable about the climate here in the past (not much admittedly) has been taken away as with life itself at the moment and the nightmare of virtual house arrest that we are currently living under is made a hundred times worse by this putrid weather which is nothing like anything we ever suffered from before.

Doesn't matter what time of year it just feels like all we get is punishment weather that can only be endured not enjoyed and it just keeps getting worse and worse. The last eight months since June has been about the most unrelentingly dire period of weather I've ever endured. Month after month of diabolical, wet, soul destroying rubbish, September excluded.

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Congratulations on the first "next winter is over" post! 

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I’ve got plenty of salt on my windows, car and anywhere else the Atlantic cares to spray it.

Looking at the forecast you might have to raid the local yellow grip box😏

Funny you should mention that, a sloped road at the front of my house used to catch drivers out in snowy weather as they tried to go up it, so shortly after the relatively snowy winter of 2013, the Highway Services installed a grit box at the side of that road.

Not once has it ever seen any use ever since.  

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The vilest day yet from this degenerate, utterly repulsive, tiresome and unpleasant filth strewn horror season of unrepentant garbage.

Not only do we have to endure yet more toxic cold rain, when traditionally less snowy parts of the country get snow, but now the added misery of stong winds too.

I wrote this winter off before it started and it's clear now that nothing is going to change. It's just getting ever more hopeless and depressing with each week that passes. Could never have imagined it would be this ridiculously foul and awful. How the hell can Edinburgh get yet another snowfall when even inland Aberdeenshire gets rain? 

It's beyond credulity. The whole of NE Scotland even 30 miles from the coast now has the same dire climate as Rattray Head and Fraserburgh. Absolutely horrific. Aboyne must have averaged 40 days of snow a year. All it had last winter were a few days of maybe 5cm at the end of February and this year it's had no more than 3cm. This is the current dismal scene at the Gliding Club even further inland from Aboyne towards Dinnet almost 30 miles from the coast

https://www.deesideglidingclub.co.uk/web-cams/ 

The unbelievably pathetic run of winters from 2014 to 2018 seem almost decent compared to the even more stupefyingly dreadful dross we've had thrust upon us over the last three years.

I'll write next winter off as well now and the one after and the one after that. Just seems to be stuck in a hopeless rut of never ending misery. Everything good and enjoyable about the climate here in the past (not much admittedly) has been taken away as with life itself at the moment and the nightmare of virtual house arrest that we are currently living under is made a hundred times worse by this putrid weather which is nothing like anything we ever suffered from before.

Doesn't matter what time of year it just feels like all we get is punishment weather that can only be endured not enjoyed and it just keeps getting worse and worse. The last eight months since June has been about the most unrelentingly dire period of weather I've ever endured. Month after month of diabolical, wet, soul destroying rubbish, September excluded.

It's not all bad news then 

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Congratulations on the first "next winter is over" post! 

 

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