Gavin D
07 August 2020 14:17:43

Tuesday 11 Aug - Thursday 20 Aug


There should be a gradual change in conditions through this period as the warm or very warm weather will most likely be displaced east and southeastwards. It will be replaced by fresher, changeable conditions from the west. There should still be a good deal of fine and dry weather across the UK through the period. However, there is a continued risk of heavy showers and thunderstorms in many areas, particularly across the south earlier on in the period. It will be widely warm or very warm at the start of the period, and it could be hot in the southeast at times. Towards the end of the period, temperatures will trend back to near the average for most areas, with the southeast possibly staying warm.


Friday 21 Aug - Friday 4 Sep


Confidence remains fairly low for this period. The south is most likely to see the best of any fine and dry weather as westerlies and southwesterlies dominate. Elsewhere could see some periods of dry and settled weather interspersed with occasional bouts of wetter and windier weather, primarily from Atlantic frontal systems. The wettest and windiest conditions will most likely be towards the northwest, with the southeast staying driest. Temperatures will be most likely around average or slightly above. There could be some short-lived very warm spells, most likely confined to the south and southeast of the UK.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Chichesterweatherfan2
07 August 2020 16:00:26
A very different outlook from the above...just seen this on the met office site?

Very warm or hot for many in the UK through the end of next week, although fresher and largely drier weather will be seen across western areas. Elsewhere will be fairly cloudy with sunny spells and the chance for some heavy or thundery downpours. From the weekend, the UK should slowly see settled conditions become established more widely, spreading eastwards by the end of the following week, although still potentially rather cloudy and humid with the chance of rain in the northwest at times. Temperatures are likely to be warm for many to start and possibly hot at times in the southeast. The potentially hot weather here gives a risk of thunderstorms across the south. Fog patches are possible overnight for many although these will quickly clear through the morning.

Updated: 16:00 (UTC+1) on Fri 7 Aug 2020
bledur
07 August 2020 16:09:38

Originally Posted by: Chichesterweatherfan2 

A very different outlook from the above...just seen this on the met office site?

Very warm or hot for many in the UK through the end of next week, although fresher and largely drier weather will be seen across western areas. Elsewhere will be fairly cloudy with sunny spells and the chance for some heavy or thundery downpours. From the weekend, the UK should slowly see settled conditions become established more widely, spreading eastwards by the end of the following week, although still potentially rather cloudy and humid with the chance of rain in the northwest at times. Temperatures are likely to be warm for many to start and possibly hot at times in the southeast. The potentially hot weather here gives a risk of thunderstorms across the south. Fog patches are possible overnight for many although these will quickly clear through the morning.

Updated: 16:00 (UTC+1) on Fri 7 Aug 2020


 The Met Office long range. chop and change every few days. They are very badly written and totally contradict themselves at times. How an organisation like that can churn out such rubbish is amazing. Their forecast video last night for today totally failed to see the amount of cloud and instability coming in .  

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07 August 2020 16:47:33

Originally Posted by: bledur 


The Met Office long range. chop and change every few days. They are very badly written and totally contradict themselves at times. How an organisation like that can churn out such rubbish is amazing. Their forecast video last night for today totally failed to see the amount of cloud and instability coming in .  



I agree with the forecast chopping and changing. 


Today's forecast a case in point. As I said a complete Fail for here apart from the temp which was not far off.


 


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Gavin D
08 August 2020 11:17:09

BBC monthly outlook


Summary


Some hot weather at times, but lows threaten


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Monday 10 August – Sunday 16 August


Hot conditions, but thunderstorms likely


This weekend, high pressure will continue to build across the UK, bringing plenty of dry, sunny weather. A northeasterly breeze with take the edge off the heat a little, but highs will be into the 30s Celsius across southeast England. It will rather humid too, making for some rather uncomfortable nights, with temperatures still in the low 20s Celsius overnight for parts of England and Wales. Over the weekend, there is a risk of some showers and thunderstorms developing, but this risk heightens as we head into the new working week.


Monday and Tuesday could see clusters of thunderstorms pushing up from the south, with heavy downpours and frequent lightning a distinct possibility. On Wednesday, further showers and thunderstorms look possible, most likely across southern England, with an additional risk of downpours and frequent lightning. The risk of thunderstorms should then shift away into the near continent into the second half of the working week, as the ridge of high pressure shifts eastwards. This will allow temperatures to moderate heading into the end of the working week as winds shift, but it will still be on the warmer side of average.


For next weekend, high pressure should build in from the southwest, bringing largely dry and fine weather, and temperatures slightly above average.


Monday 17 August – Sunday 23 August


A chance of another hot spell or heatwave


Around this period, high pressure is likely to be near to the British Isles, or out to the northeast over Scandinavia. This should bring plenty of dry and settled weather, perhaps with multiple sunny days for many parts of the UK.


Whilst high pressure is likely to be towards the northeast, there is the potential for low pressure to become situated out to the west of the UK. This set-up can lead to intense warming across the UK, as warm air tends to plume up from the south. As a result, there is the chance of another hot spell or heatwave during the week. After the heatwave conditions earlier in August, further hot weather could see temperatures trending much warmer than average for August as a whole.


However, with low pressure out to the west, fronts may creep into Northern Ireland and Scotland, bringing some wet spells of weather here. There is also the risk that low pressure is instead more influential right over the British Isles, bringing unsettled weather more widely across the UK.


Monday 24 August – Sunday 6 September


Wetter in the north, mostly dry in the south


Through late August and early September, areas of low pressure are expected to track over Iceland and near to the north of the UK, with fronts glancing Scotland and occasionally Northern Ireland at first. Gradually as we head into September, associated fronts will extend across the UK, with wet and breezy spells of weather looking likely for most. Rainy periods will probably be most frequent across Northern Ireland and Scotland, whilst England and Wales may only see fleeting spells of wet weather as fronts come and go. Southeast England will likely be the driest spot, with only the odd patch of rain likely.


In fact, a strong northwest-southeast split in the weather looks probable for this period. High pressure may ridge in from Europe to give lengthier periods of dry and warm weather over the southeast, whilst fronts pushing into the northwest will give frequent wet spells and fluctuating temperatures.


Since the UK is sat on the periphery of the two weather regimes mentioned above, there is considerable uncertainty by this point, as one weather type may dominate over the other for an extended period. There is a risk that low pressure areas track further south than expected, which would bring above-average rain to the south instead. By the same token, high pressure ridging may be more persistent and extensive over the UK, which would bring drier, warmer weather more widely across the country. Another complicating matter is that by late-August the Atlantic hurricane season is forecast to become rather active, and this can lead to large swings in the weather for the UK.


Further ahead


We will examine the complicated pattern for next few weeks and see whether there's a possibility of any further hot spells of weather across the UK.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook

Gavin D
08 August 2020 14:02:23

Thursday 13 Aug - Saturday 22 Aug


Warm or very warm for many through to the end of next week, although cooler and fresher conditions will gradually move in from the west. A mixture of sunny spells and showers is expected, with a risk of some heavy downpours and thunderstorms. Over the weekend and into the following week, more settled, drier conditions will probably become established, although some thundery showers may still affect the southeast at first and there is a chance of thicker cloud bringing outbreaks of rain to the northwest at times. Fog patches are possible overnight for many although these will quickly clear through the mornings. Temperatures are likely to be warm for most parts of the UK well into the middle of August.


Sunday 23 Aug - Sunday 6 Sep


Confidence is low for this period. Northwestern areas of the UK will probably be changeable with periods of cloudy skies, outbreaks of rain and strengthening winds interspersed with drier, brighter spells. Further south and southeast it is likely to be drier and warmer with more in the way of sunshine. Hot conditions may affect the southeast at times, bringing a risk of thunderstorms which may spread further north at times. Towards the end of August and into early September, more changeable and cooler conditions may become more widely established across the UK as a whole.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gavin D
09 August 2020 13:48:10

Friday 14 Aug - Sunday 23 Aug


Warm or very warm for many through to the end of next week, although cooler and fresher conditions will gradually move in from the west. A mixture of sunny spells and showers is expected, with a risk of some heavy downpours and thunderstorms. Over the weekend and into the following week, more settled, drier conditions will probably become established, although some thundery showers may still affect the southeast at first and there is a chance of thicker cloud bringing outbreaks of rain to the northwest at times. Fog patches are possible overnight for many although these will quickly clear through the mornings. Temperatures are likely to be warm for most parts of the UK well into the middle of August.


Monday 24 Aug - Monday 7 Sep


Confidence is low for this period. Northwestern areas of the UK will probably be changeable with periods of cloudy skies, outbreaks of rain and strengthening winds interspersed with drier, brighter spells. Further south and southeast it is likely to be drier and warmer with more in the way of sunshine. Hot conditions may affect the southeast at times, bringing a risk of thunderstorms which may spread further north at times. Towards the end of August and into early September, more changeable and cooler conditions may become more widely established across the UK as a whole.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

tallyho_83
10 August 2020 10:44:50

A slip of the tongue' from Carol Kirwood:


 


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/femailnews/video-2226680/Video-Weve-seen-doggers-BBCs-Carol-makes-gaffe-live-air.html


 


 


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Gavin D
10 August 2020 13:29:09

Saturday 15 Aug - Monday 24 Aug


Warm or very warm for many through to the end of next week, although cooler and fresher conditions will gradually move in from the west. A mixture of sunny spells and showers is expected, with a risk of some heavy downpours and thunderstorms. Over the weekend and into the following week, more settled, drier conditions will probably become established, although some thundery showers may still affect the southeast at first and there is a chance of thicker cloud bringing outbreaks of rain to the northwest at times. Fog patches are possible overnight for many although these will quickly clear through the mornings. Temperatures are likely to be warm for most parts of the UK well into the middle of August.


Tuesday 25 Aug - Tuesday 8 Sep


Confidence is low for this period. Northwestern areas of the UK will probably be changeable with periods of cloudy skies, outbreaks of rain and strengthening winds interspersed with drier, brighter spells. Further south and southeast it is likely to be drier and warmer with more in the way of sunshine. Hot conditions may affect the southeast at times, bringing a risk of thunderstorms which may spread further north at times. Towards the end of August and into early September, more changeable and cooler conditions may become more widely established across the UK as a whole.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gavin D
11 August 2020 14:25:21

Sunday 16 Aug - Tuesday 25 Aug


The beginning of the period should see settled conditions persisting with cloudy and humid conditions interspersed with sunny spells. Some light rain may spread north-westwards at times towards the middle of August. Southern and southeastern areas may see further periods of hot weather and thunderstorms at times throughout the period. Elsewhere it is likely to remain warm or very warm though cooler than last week. Fog patches are possible overnight for many which should readily clear during the mornings. Northwestern areas may see more changeable conditions developing towards the end of the period with a mixture of windier and wetter days mingled with drier days. Eastern and northeastern areas are likely to remain more settled throughout.


Wednesday 26 Aug - Wednesday 9 Sep


Although confidence is low for this period, conditions will likely become more changeable with periods of rain and breezier days at times at the end of August and into September, with temperatures returning to around average for the time of year. However, eastern areas will see the best of more settled weather with lighter winds and drier days. There is a possibility that some southern regions will turn very warm with thunderstorms at times.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gavin D
12 August 2020 13:40:38

Monday 17 Aug - Wednesday 26 Aug


The beginning of the period should see settled conditions persisting with cloudy and humid conditions interspersed with sunny spells. Some light rain may spread north-westwards at times towards the middle of August. Southern and southeastern areas may see further periods of hot weather and thunderstorms at times throughout the period. Elsewhere it is likely to remain warm or very warm though cooler than last week. Fog patches are possible overnight for many which should readily clear during the mornings. Northwestern areas may see more changeable conditions developing towards the end of the period with a mixture of windier and wetter days mingled with drier days. Eastern and northeastern areas are likely to remain more settled throughout.


Thursday 27 Aug - Thursday 10 Sep


Although confidence is low for this period, conditions will likely become more changeable with periods of rain and breezier days at times at the end of August and into September, with temperatures returning to around average for the time of year. However, eastern areas will see the best of more settled weather with lighter winds and drier days. There is a possibility that some southern regions will turn very warm with thunderstorms at times.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Rob K
12 August 2020 18:48:18
Very good forecast video from Aidan, explaining the probabilities and using charts and graphs I hadn’t seen before on a Met forecast.

https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1293585537429889028?s=21 

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12 August 2020 18:53:39

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Very good forecast video from Aidan, explaining the probabilities and using charts and graphs I hadn’t seen before on a Met forecast.

https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1293585537429889028?s=21


Yes, MetOffice videos forecasts are excellent. Their presenters are good as well. 


They are my go to now. BBC just isn’t the same anymore I am afraid.


I used to like Isobelle Lang. Why she went to Sky I don’t know. Their forecasts are just awful. They always seem to only go up to 12:00.


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Rob K
12 August 2020 19:01:30
The video forecasts are excellent but nothing like the text forecasts!
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12 August 2020 19:05:13

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Very good forecast video from Aidan, explaining the probabilities and using charts and graphs I hadn’t seen before on a Met forecast.

https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1293585537429889028?s=21


Yes agreed this was excellent.


A chart of probabilistic pressure trends for next week is very good to see rather than a simplistic deterministic forecast.


Rob
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Gavin D
13 August 2020 14:26:00

Tuesday 18 Aug - Thursday 27 Aug


The beginning of this period is likely to be generally unsettled, with showers and longer spells of rain at times. There is also a low chance that there could be some further thundery weather, although this would most likely be confined towards the southeast of the UK. It is likely to be windier than of late, especially in the west where there is also a risk of gales. Temperatures should start rather warm for many, despite the spells of unsettled weather. However, temperatures may cool slightly by the end of this period as the low pressure system, which was situated over the west of the UK, pushes towards the east and allows for a freshening breeze to develop from the northwest.


Friday 28 Aug - Friday 11 Sep


Although confidence is low for this period, it is likely that conditions will become more changeable with settled days interspersed with periods of rain and strengthening winds, especially in the northwest. However, the east and southeast will perhaps remain slightly more settled throughout with temperatures around or above average. There is also a possibility for southern regions to turn very warm at times, with a potential for thunderstorms to develop.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

tallyho_83
14 August 2020 10:07:50

 


For a laugh - the La Meteo.org seasonal forecast.


https://youtu.be/_3ZZ-BLoq4o


 


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Gavin D
14 August 2020 13:55:34

Wednesday 19 Aug - Friday 28 Aug


The beginning of this period is likely to be generally unsettled with showers and longer spells of rain at times, potentially becoming heavy in places. There is also a chance that there could be some further thundery weather, although this would most likely be confined towards the east and southeast of the UK. It is likely to be windier than of late, especially in the south and west where there is also a risk of gales. Temperatures should start rather warm for many, despite the spells of unsettled weather. However, temperatures may cool slightly by the end of this period with freshening winds from the northwest likely to create a more widespread risk of gales.


Saturday 29 Aug - Saturday 12 Sep


Although confidence is low for this period, it is likely that conditions will become more changeable with drier and brighter days interspersed with periods of rain and strengthening winds. Temperatures should be around the average for this time of year. Towards the end of this period, there are some tentative signs that high pressure could begin to dominate, especially across the south of the UK, with a return to more settled conditions.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gavin D
15 August 2020 17:55:28

Thursday 20 Aug - Saturday 29 Aug


The beginning of this period is likely to be generally unsettled with showers and longer spells of rain at times, potentially becoming heavy in places. There is also a chance that there could be some further thundery weather, although this would most likely be confined towards the east and southeast of the UK. It is likely to be windier than of late, especially in the south and west where there is also a risk of gales. Temperatures should start rather warm for many, despite the spells of unsettled weather. However, temperatures may cool slightly by the end of this period with freshening winds from the northwest likely to create a more widespread risk of gales.


Sunday 30 Aug - Sunday 13 Sep


Although confidence is low for this period, it is likely that conditions will become more changeable with drier and brighter days interspersed with periods of rain and strengthening winds. Temperatures should be around the average for this time of year. Towards the end of this period, there are some tentative signs that high pressure could begin to dominate, especially across the south of the UK, with a return to more settled conditions.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gavin D
15 August 2020 17:56:39

BBC monthly outlook


Summary


Fresher air but an unsettled pattern persisting


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Saturday 15 August – Sunday 23 August


A fresher, cooler pattern with showers at times


Over the weekend, high pressure will sit to the north of the UK bringing a cooler wind for the northern half of the country. However, this will come with some low cloud off the North Sea, making for some dull days in the area. Meanwhile, a weak trough of low pressure in southern areas will bring cloudy skies and outbreaks of rain along with a few isolated thundery showers for some. Sunday and early next week will see high pressure shifting to the north, allowing a low pressure system to move into the UK from the Bay of Biscay. This low will bring heavy showers and a risk of thunderstorms again to much of England and Wales.

But these thunderstorms may not be as numerous or severe as seen in recent days. By midweek, a deeper Atlantic low pressure system will arrive from the west, with a warm front spreading into England and Wales. This warm front will bring one or two days of some slightly warmer than average air to southern areas, especially the Southeast. However, this will not be anything like the magnitude of the heatwave we just experienced. Instead, it will be a few days of temperatures into the mid-20s under mostly cloudy skies. The low pressure system will then spread into the UK by the end of next week and into the following weekend, bringing more wet, windy and generally unsettled weather. Cooler Atlantic air will flow in causing temperatures to move below normal for Scotland and Northern Ireland. Confidence is high for this weather pattern next week with no signals for any prolonged heat.


Monday 24 August – Sunday 30 August


Unsettled and cooler weather to continue


The Atlantic low pressure system towards the end of next week will herald a more permanent pattern shift for the final full week of August. Low pressure tracks are expected to remain over the UK and bring unsettled weather across the country. Therefore, August will later be cooler but wetter contrasting the dry and very hot start. The lows will be more frequent for northern areas making conditions in Scotland and Northern Ireland wetter and windier more often. England and Wales will see some dry spells, but with occasional bands of rain as fronts move through.

High pressure will tend to be well off to the southwest, keeping tropical air far away from the UK. Similar to next week, there are no strong signals for any prolonged heat in the UK. Temperatures are likely to be a tad below normal for northern areas, but nearer to normal in the south. Southern areas will see brief warm spells associated with warm fronts followed by a cooler couple of days as a cold front sweeps through. An already active Atlantic hurricane season is expected to become even more so by late-August. This may have an impact on the weather across the Europe.


Monday 31 August – Monday 14 September


Staying unsettled but turning drier for the South


Low pressure will persist as we continue into September and the start of meteorological autumn. This means that unsettled weather will remain, and it will tend to be wetter and windier than normal. Temperatures will be near normal for northern areas. Meanwhile, southern areas may see some warmer more frequently. This is due to high pressure beginning to build back into southwest and central Europe. As warm fronts move in from low pressure systems, the southwest breeze will be able to drag some of this tropical air into the UK, but likely only for the southern half of the country. By mid-September, high pressure will build more strongly in the Atlantic to the southwest of the UK.

This will help shift the winds to a more northwest direction. Atlantic air will tend to move into northern areas, while tropical air occasionally makes its way into the south. Low pressure will be to the north, bringing frequent wet conditions to northern areas with some lengthy dry spells for the south. September is the peak month for Atlantic hurricane activity historically. The National Hurricane Centre in the United States is forecasting an extremely active year this year, so we can expect several of these storms to develop in the Atlantic. This will likely impact our weather more in September, so confidence is lower still. However, there is some evidence that in active hurricane years, the UK sees more extensive low pressure in September. So at the moment all arrows are pointing away from any dry and settled patterns.


Further ahead


We will see if things continue to look unsettled into the start of meteorological autumn, or if any long sunny or hot spells are lurking ahead?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook




 

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