Global Warming
30 March 2020 21:07:24

This thread is for all comments, discussion and analysis of temperatures in the UK during April, with particular emphasis on the Central England Temperature (CET), for the simple reason that it is the longest running temperature series in the world with over 360 years of data. But you can comment on any interesting temperature statistics or data from across the UK, including your own back yard. 


For those taking part in the competition all CET predictions for April should be sent directly to me via the forum private message system. Do not post them directly into the thread.


Historic CET summary for April


1971-2000 8.1C (30 years)


1981-2010 8.5C (30 years) 


2000-2019 9.0C (last 20 years)


April CET record 11.8C 2011 


Here is a chart of the April CET for all years since 1961:


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Direct link to larger version of the chart


Current model output (at 12z 30 Mar)


Cold start but soon turning milder


GFS 850's -https://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/show_diagrams.php?model=gfs&var=2&geoid=49069&lid=ENS&bw=


GFS T2m - https://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49069&model=gfs&var=202&run=12&lid=ENS&bw=


ECM ENS T2m -http://cdn.knmi.nl/knmi/map/page/weer/waarschuwingen_verwachtingen/ensemble/detail/ensemble-verwachtingen-detail10.png


Met Office contingency planners outlook 


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/metofficegovuk/pdf/business/public-sector/civil-contingency/forecast-temp-amj-v1.pdf


Weak signal for slightly above average conditions.

ARTzeman
31 March 2020 10:12:11

Prediction CET in for unsettled weather.






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scillydave
01 April 2020 06:41:40
Morning GW,

Your inbox is full so I'm not able to deliver my prediction for April at the moment.
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ARTzeman
02 April 2020 09:51:08

Met Office Hadley        6.2c.      Anomaly       -0.3c. Provisional to 1st.


Metcheck                     5.67c     Anomaly       -2.35c


Netweather                  5.91c     Anomaly       -2.2c


Peasedown St John    7.4c        Anomaly      -0.86c.        






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Stormchaser
02 April 2020 21:40:35

GFS 06z was impressive today; rough CET estimate lifted from just 6.2*C as of 4th to 9.0*C as of 10th and then on to 10.0*C as of 15th! 


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Caz
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03 April 2020 03:45:30

Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


GFS 06z was impressive today; rough CET estimate lifted from just 6.2*C as of 4th to 9.0*C as of 10th and then on to 10.0*C as of 15th! 


Crikey!  That is impressive.  A bit high for my CET chances but great for getting in the garden!  


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Stormchaser
03 April 2020 09:07:15

Originally Posted by: Caz 


Crikey!  That is impressive.  A bit high for my CET chances but great for getting in the garden!  



Indeed  - now more than ever, those who have somewhere outside to catch the sun within their own property can appreciate what they have. I feel so sorry for those who have no such place.



CET-wise, I'm interested to see how much the short-term relatively low temps have affected the spread of estimates, versus the warmth being modelled for next week.


April is always one of the trickiest months, due to its capacity to bring anything from cold weather with snow chances to an early 'heatwave' (in the relative to normal sense) with temps reaching the mid-20s widely!


Just look at the all-time UK records according to TORRO:
Lowest -15.0°C (Cumbria 2nd Apr 1917), Highest 29.4°C (London 16th Apr 1949).



It's been surprisingly long since that high record - but the past few years have shown a striking step-up in climate warming signature across the UK & Europe. I wonder if we'll crack 30°C in April some year soon? What a thought! 


 


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ARTzeman
03 April 2020 10:53:08

UP WE GO !!!


Met Office Hadley         7.6c.     Anomaly      1.3c. Provisional to 2 nd. 


Metcheck                      6.77c     Anomaly      -1.25c


Netweather                   7.34c     Anomaly      -0.77c


Peasedown St John      7.08c.    Anomaly     -0.46c.  






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ARTzeman
04 April 2020 09:57:20

Met Office Hadley       7.9c.       Anomaly       1.7c.  Provisional to3rd.


Metcheck                    6.93c      Anomaly       -1.25c


Netweather                 7.65c      Anomaly       -0.77c


Peasedown St John    6.96c     Anomaly        -1.8c.






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Stormchaser
04 April 2020 13:20:37

Astonishing: Using the raw numbers of the 06z GFS run of 1st April, the estimate to 3rd was 6.15°C. The provisional is 1.75°C higher! Even allowing for the non-provisional tending to be lower, that's not going to be much off such an enormous error.


With the provisional to 3rd applied, that run gives an estimate of ~10.3°C to 15th, up by 0.3°C from before.


Yet, it still falls short of today's 06z, which lifts the CET estimate all the way up to ~10.6°C to 15th and then stays warmer afterward, such that at run's end on 19th, the estimate is flying high at ~10.7°C. If the remainder of the month was bang-on average, that'd give a final CET in the low 10s °C.


 


Starting to wonder if I should have been a bit bolder with my estimation this month!


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Hungry Tiger
04 April 2020 15:48:35

Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


Astonishing: Using the raw numbers of the 06z GFS run of 1st April, the estimate to 3rd was 6.15°C. The provisional is 1.75°C higher! Even allowing for the non-provisional tending to be lower, that's not going to be much off such an enormous error.


With the provisional to 3rd applied, that run gives an estimate of ~10.3°C to 15th, up by 0.3°C from before.


Yet, it still falls short of today's 06z, which lifts the CET estimate all the way up to ~10.6°C to 15th and then stays warmer afterward, such that at run's end on 19th, the estimate is flying high at ~10.7°C. If the remainder of the month was bang-on average, that'd give a final CET in the low 10s °C.


 


Starting to wonder if I should have been a bit bolder with my estimation this month!



Same here James.


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Caz
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04 April 2020 18:58:10

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


 


Same here James.


And me!  But I’m happy to be wrong if it’s much higher!  


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Bolty
04 April 2020 21:13:49
Yes, the models are now looking decidedly mild for at least the first half of April now. It's likely that this could be a 10-degree'er, though it's still early days.
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ARTzeman
05 April 2020 09:52:38

Met Office Hadley          8.1c.       Anomaly       1.9c. Provisional to 4th.


Metcheck                       7.43c      Anomaly        -0.58c


Netweather                    8.08c      Anomaly        -0.03c


Peasedown St John      7.84c      Anomaly        -0.42c 






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ARTzeman
06 April 2020 09:48:16

Met Office Hadley          8.9c       Anomaly       2.6c Provisional to 5th.


Metcheck                       8.77c     Anomaly       0.76c


Netweather                    9.14c     Anomaly       1.05c


Peasedown St John      9.3c        Anomaly       1.1c  






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ARTzeman
07 April 2020 10:02:18

Met Office Hadley          9.4c      Anomaly       3.0c.   Provisional to 6th.


Metcheck                       8.83c     Anomaly        0.81c


Netweather                    9.67c     Anomaly        1.58c


Peasedown St John      8.42c     Anomaly        0.16c.






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TimS
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08 April 2020 08:21:42
I never understand why the calcs for the provisional Hadley CET can't be tinkered with so that it doesn't always run higher.

Seems to be most out when we have cold nights and a large diurnal range, which is happening at the moment. Overcooking the night minima I suspect. It's been mild but not that mild. I've seen frost on the lawn a couple of times this month which was a rarity right through the winter.
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ARTzeman
08 April 2020 09:58:58

Met Office Hadley         9.5c        Anomaly        3.0c.  Provisional to 7th.


Metcheck                      9.26c      Anomaly        1.23c


Netweather                   9.82c      Anomaly        1.73c


Peasedown St John     9.32c      Anomaly        1.06c.  






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Saint Snow
08 April 2020 10:23:24

Anyone know if GW's ok? It's showing his last visit here was 1st April. With all that's going on... 



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Caz
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09 April 2020 04:37:01

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Anyone know if GW's ok? It's showing his last visit here was 1st April. With all that's going on... 


I do hope he is!  Perhaps he’s busy working, with all that’s going on!  


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