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Offline Heavy Weather 2013  
#961 Posted : 07 November 2019 16:39:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gooner Go to Quoted Post

 

12z looking blocked indeed 

Agreed Marcus - We often say, lets get the pattern in first and then look for the cold. The 850s are not that exciting. But this pattern really is fascinating. Let us hope its not just Jam tomorrow.

Mark

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Offline Gooner  
#962 Posted : 07 November 2019 16:47:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 Go to Quoted Post

 

Agreed Marcus - We often say, lets get the pattern in first and then look for the cold. The 850s are not that exciting. But this pattern really is fascinating. Let us hope its not just Jam tomorrow.

Totally agree Mark , 850's can sort themselves out later, its looking interesting for sure

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun

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Offline LA2B MeridFlowEuro09  
#963 Posted : 07 November 2019 16:50:47(UTC)
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Hey USA. Cold SW winds from the Arctic over C and E Canada and up West NW Greenland and from up there straight to the North Pole.  

Short wave Lows diving SE from the Newfoundland and SW Greenland - flicked across to the UK from NW to UK with AO and NAO Negative.

Very good cross model suggestions not 100% perfect but GFS, UKMO and ICON have Europe West and Central and UK affected by Cold or below average or near average temperatures and plenty of rain - heavy rain and showers with often overcast and windy weather.

North Sea NW C and NE plus West and SW Norwegian Sea blocked but High Pressure that also affecting Norway and Finland Scandy etc.

Temps above normal for Central and SE USA if this prediction takes control.

We live in a very active part of the North Atlantic indeed. It reduces the size and extent and duration of low temperatures and winter snow, and it reduces the length of very warm and hot sunny weather.

Our weather breaks down often after we get some either cold and wintry weather or get dry and sunny weather. Brief and also longer lasting Unsettled and wet weather with mild winter weather or cool chilly and cloudy conditions in summer's. It used to be colder and snowier and frostier both day and night, but nowadays we often see above average temperatures both day and night as our Planet Earth is entered into a warm human induced Global Warming Phase. Long fetch of warm air SW winds over longer distances- reduce the chances for the UK to be affected by cold plunges and spells, living on the NW Europe part fully exposed to Atlantic mildness.

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Offline idj20  
#964 Posted : 07 November 2019 17:18:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 Go to Quoted Post

 

Agreed Marcus - We often say, lets get the pattern in first and then look for the cold. The 850s are not that exciting. But this pattern really is fascinating. Let us hope its not just Jam tomorrow.



Just a break in the wet weather would do us just fine and the past couple of runs offers a glimmer of hope. After all it is only November and some of us in the UK probably have had double the November average rainfall and this is just the first week of the month! 

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#965 Posted : 07 November 2019 18:21:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gooner Go to Quoted Post

 

Would have been sooner but had a few technical issues 

 

Some decent blocked charts around has to be said 

whats that Marcus, tears over Arsenal blow your keyboard? 🤣

some hints in FI again of northern blocking, interesting output for sure 

Offline Russwirral  
#966 Posted : 07 November 2019 18:31:51(UTC)
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GFS FI showing a real nice Limbo run.

Kinda wants to do a bit of everything, but mostly i think its trying to get its head around the ongoing northern blocking conundrum

Offline Shropshire  
#967 Posted : 07 November 2019 18:45:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Russwirral Go to Quoted Post
GFS FI showing a real nice Limbo run.

Kinda wants to do a bit of everything, but mostly i think its trying to get its head around the ongoing northern blocking conundrum

All too early for anything decent unfortunately.

 

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Offline Heavy Weather 2013  
#968 Posted : 07 November 2019 18:49:58(UTC)
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Another dip and extension of the cold on the 850s

Here are the ensembles. 

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

Gustys reverse psychology could be doing the trick 😉

Mark

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Offline ballamar  
#969 Posted : 07 November 2019 18:53:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Shropshire Go to Quoted Post

 

All too early for anything decent unfortunately.

 

no it isn’t - if the pattern persists will go cold

Offline Bertwhistle  
#970 Posted : 07 November 2019 19:09:54(UTC)
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Check out the GFS 850 ensembles: warm Moscow, snowy Inverness.

Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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Offline Brian Gaze  
#971 Posted : 07 November 2019 19:12:04(UTC)
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Offline Gusty  
#972 Posted : 07 November 2019 21:00:40(UTC)
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For the first half of November this is a fairly notable run of sub 10c maxes for London ! Signs of something less cool later on hopefully. Again it's deep in FI and cannot be taken too seriously yet. 

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Offline Brian Gaze  
#973 Posted : 07 November 2019 21:13:50(UTC)
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GFS was upgraded today.

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#974 Posted : 07 November 2019 21:16:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze Go to Quoted Post

GFS was upgraded today.

 

The phrase "everything is relative" comes to mind.

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Offline White Meadows  
#975 Posted : 07 November 2019 22:50:02(UTC)
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Hello all, looking forward to another fast approaching silly season.

Recent output continues to be interesting with tonight’s pub run repeating a trend for the jet diving very far south with possible north/ north easterly airflow over the UK next week & beyond 🥶

Offline RobN  
#976 Posted : 07 November 2019 23:05:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: White Meadows Go to Quoted Post
Hello all, looking forward to another fast approaching silly season.

I think it's already arrived

Rob

Sometimes a few miles north of Cambridge on a hill in the flatlands of East Anglia 15m ASL

Other times in south east Gloucestershire near the River Thames 75m ASL.

Offline Argyle77  
#977 Posted : 08 November 2019 01:22:54(UTC)
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Very interesting output,the thing is,we have seen this before during the Autumn then once we hit December everything reverts to type again.
Can remember a few years back,we had lots of HLB throughout the Autumn, to only disappear come Dec,never till return untill Spring,can't remember the year,but a common trend to get HLB in any other season accept Winter!

Only recent exception was nov2010 which carried on throughout Dec,can we hit the jackpot again.well the longer this pattern continue ,the greater the chance and it's been going on a fair while already.

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Offline White Meadows  
#978 Posted : 08 November 2019 06:37:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Argyle77 Go to Quoted Post

Very interesting output,the thing is,we have seen this before during the Autumn then once we hit December everything reverts to type again.
Can remember a few years back,we had lots of HLB throughout the Autumn, to only disappear come Dec,never till return untill Spring,can't remember the year,but a common trend to get HLB in any other season accept Winter!

Only recent exception was nov2010 which carried on throughout Dec,can we hit the jackpot again.well the longer this pattern continue ,the greater the chance and it's been going on a fair while already.

i think it was 2016-17 which was expected to deliver the goods with blocking as we approached winter, coupled with a promising met office extended outlook. Still, the hair dryer got stuck in the on position and we ended up milder than average again.

2009 and 2010 were excellent winters here, the best in recent times. 

Offline Shropshire  
#979 Posted : 08 November 2019 06:43:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Argyle77 Go to Quoted Post

Very interesting output,the thing is,we have seen this before during the Autumn then once we hit December everything reverts to type again.
Can remember a few years back,we had lots of HLB throughout the Autumn, to only disappear come Dec,never till return untill Spring,can't remember the year,but a common trend to get HLB in any other season accept Winter!

Only recent exception was nov2010 which carried on throughout Dec,can we hit the jackpot again.well the longer this pattern continue ,the greater the chance and it's been going on a fair while already.

Yep and everything is pointing to a zonal December. As you say 2010 didn't begin until the end of the month.

 

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Offline Brian Gaze  
#980 Posted : 08 November 2019 07:22:13(UTC)
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I'll start a new thread at 7:30am. 

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