Originally Posted by: doctormog

Ah the good old Siberia-Aleutian pattern. I wonder what Bering that will have on our weather....

 its the way you tell them. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze

 

He's a good pundit but I do hope we're not already having to roll the dice for an SSW.  

Good god that was so painful at the end of last winter. Didn’t it start in December and we waited the whole of the winter for the results to propergate downwards to a square route of 0 😂

Originally Posted by: Gusty

A build in high pressure from the south to dry things up and warm things up would suit most of us here. A cool and wet outlook is not an exciting prospect. There are signs of something warmer in the form of outliers at the moment but far too far into FI to take seriously. :)

 

Yes but surely, Steve, by now warmers mean less dry most often. Other than an extending breezy Azores ridge or a Bartlett with enough flow to prevent fog, most places must expect either warm or dry?

Briefly this morning:

GFS showing LPs to about the 17th then HP over Scandi with ridge to UK

ECM the same but the HP is at the very end of its run so not fully developed

GEFS consistent with this, cool this week with widespread rain, after that drier N&W, a few intermittent spikes in SE, temps recovering to average

http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/prec4 shows the current blocking over E Europe nicely (I assume the pptn over Scandi is from the last of the depressions before the HP sets up)

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013

06z GFS should raise a few eyebrows. Loaded with potential

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU06_192_1.png

OK 850s are not dramatically cold, but its an interesting development nonetheless 

Stunning chart - the sort of chart which gets rampers ramping. But we have been bitten by such charts all too often and it is so early in the season. A chart like that in December, would really excite.

Gooner is back! All is well in the world! Lets hope this winter finally delivers Brexit snow

Originally Posted by: idj20

We did get something out of it . . . in the form of exceptionally warm weather by late February. Wouldn't get that in a strong polar vortex induced mobile westerly airflow. 

We also got some decent heavy snow right at the start of February - several inches here, heavy and wet enough to bring down lots of trees and block a lot of roads in this area. Whether it was SSW-related is debatable, of course.

But yes, last winter was painful in that the long-range forecasts (especially the Met Office ones) kept teasing us for about two months by saying a severe easterly spell was on the cards two weeks down the line, which never happened in the end.

Back to the current models and 06Z GFS would raise some eyebrows if we were another month or so into winter...

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Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013

This is starting to get interesting

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_213_1.png

12z looking blocked indeed 

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013

 

Agreed Marcus - We often say, lets get the pattern in first and then look for the cold. The 850s are not that exciting. But this pattern really is fascinating. Let us hope its not just Jam tomorrow.

Totally agree Mark , 850's can sort themselves out later, its looking interesting for sure