Brian Gaze
29 July 2019 06:46:01
I see there are now suggestions the CBG Stevenson screen has been moved several times in recent years. Do we know if that is the case and if so then why?
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james
29 July 2019 08:19:37

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

I see there are now suggestions the CBG Stevenson screen has been moved several times in recent years. Do we know if that is the case and if so then why?


I am only aware that the site was moved once in recent times (about 120ft to the SSE) to make way for the Sainsbury Laboratory which opened in 2011.

james
29 July 2019 08:34:18

Well this has certainly entered the local political discourse here in Cambridge this morning:



 

james
29 July 2019 09:25:20

Another way to help verify the BG reading is the British Antarctic Survey weather station in West Cambridge. It's located in a sheltered location surrounded by buildings (see here). However as noted in this letter to the Weather journal it was compared to the BG reading in 2003 so could provide a possibly useful comparison this time.

severnside
29 July 2019 09:39:00

Some interesting reading and comments in this link about the site https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/07/27/cambridge-botanical-too-compromised-for-climatological-purposes/


On map images it does not look like a good location for a Stevenson screen.


also this link; https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/07/26/met-office-claims-of-new-record-at-cambridge-look-very-dodgy/


 


 

Gavin D
29 July 2019 16:06:32

38.7c officially confirmed 


 



Quantum
29 July 2019 16:10:32

Is that all of the manual/climate stations?


Any more still to come?


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
29 July 2019 16:13:15

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


38.7c officially confirmed 


 





 


Splendid news it was a heatwave that deserved to have the all time record. 


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Retron
29 July 2019 16:13:26

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


38.7c officially confirmed 



Congratulations to Cambridge!


(And a sense of relief now, as it means the whinging / conspiracy theories against Brogdale will now cease!)


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29 July 2019 16:14:38

I'm sure all the climate worriers will be hating that stat, but fantastic news I say, it deserved a new record (and one that is slightly more North of London!)/


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Arcus
29 July 2019 16:16:51
Just the reading from Jiries' shed to come in now.
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Bolty
29 July 2019 16:17:07

Originally Posted by: RobR 


I'm sure all the climate worriers will be hating that stat, but fantastic news I say, it deserved a new record (and one that is slightly more North of London!)/



Indeed! Great to see a new record set. I'll be celebrating it, even if the "do as I say, not as I do" brigade don't like it.


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29 July 2019 16:25:24

Originally Posted by: Arcus 

Just the reading from Jiries' shed to come in now.


 


Or 'Death Valley' as it's more commonly known. 



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David M Porter
29 July 2019 16:26:06

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


Its funny how the very recent heat records have been broken during the less than brilliant summers and not during the two good summers of this decade, 2013 and 2018.


 



Indeed Kevin, and just as happened in July 2015, this record that has just been confirmed occured during what was at best a transient heatwave lasting only a few days at the most. The 2003 record which has just been surpassed happened during a fortnight-long heatwave IIRC, although temperatures did drop a bit after the record was set on 10th August. Interesting too that the highest temperature recorded last year happened just before the long settled spell came to an end.


The pressure set-up we had last week was literally a carbon copy of early July 2015; a deep low which was slow-moving to the west of Ireland and an anticyclone over the continent, both of which combined to send up some exceptionally hot air over the UK for a few days. Once the July 2015 heatwave broke down, we were then stuck in an unsettled and rather cooler pattern for the rest of that month. The only two summers which were notably good overall which created any records were 2003 (then hottest day on record) and 2006 (then hottest July day on record). It is interesting that these records have now both been surpassed during what were only transient as opposed to sustained heatwaves.


Looking at the current model output though, I think it could be a while before we see temperatures anywhere near the values that we had last week again this summer, if we do at all.


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johncs2016
29 July 2019 16:28:03
Yes, I think that this was a record which deserved to stand.

Having said that though, I don't really see this as a reason to celebrate and if anything, I would be rather concerned about just how often these highest temperature records are being broken these days.

Whilst we can't say that any particular record being broken is down to climate change, the fact that these records are being beaten on such a regular basis means that climate change has to be playing a significant part in that. For that reason, this makes very concerned about our overall future here on this planet.

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David M Porter
29 July 2019 16:33:39

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

Yes, I think that this was a record which deserved to stand.

Having said that though, I don't really see this as a reason to celebrate and if anything, I would be rather concerned about just how often these highest temperature records are being broken these days.

Whilst we can't say that any particular record being broken is down to climate change, the fact that these records are being beaten on such a regular basis means that climate change has to be playing a significant part in that. For that reason, this makes very concerned about our overall future here on this planet.


I take your point John and I don't disagree. However I for one would be reticent about discussing that issue to any extent on here bearing in mind what Brian said earlier in the year. Unless, that is, I am prepared to risk getting myself banned permanently from this forum!


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29 July 2019 16:52:57
Wonderful news. I am so happy we secured the record!
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29 July 2019 16:55:39

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


Congratulations to Cambridge!


(And a sense of relief now, as it means the whinging / conspiracy theories against Brogdale will now cease!)



To replaced of course by the conspiracy theorists whingeing about the Cambridge University Botanic Gardens.


However, I love the way they've picked up on the fact that the nearest pub to the site is called "The Flying Pig".


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29 July 2019 16:57:47
Apparently we still have a few stations left to report at the end of the month.
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29 July 2019 17:03:54

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


Congratulations to Cambridge!


(And a sense of relief now, as it means the whinging / conspiracy theories against Brogdale will now cease!)



Unfortunately that only means that the mutterings about Cambridge Botanic Gardens will continue for the next 16 years, or until whenever the record is broken again.


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