Bertwhistle
22 July 2019 17:51:24

Model output (old): how o Earth did Southampton get 3 x 35°C days out of this? (especially before the big surface warm up).


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/reanalysis.php?uur=1800&var=2&nmaps=24&map=1&model=noaa&jaar=1976&maand=06&dag=28


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22 July 2019 17:56:03
GFS 12z mean has 27-30C widely across England on Friday now. The mean! Lots of members now extending the heat into the weekend 🙂
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Arcus
22 July 2019 18:09:20

ECM back into minor trough disruption mode on the 12z. Spicy.



Ben,
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Col
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22 July 2019 18:16:03

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


 


I remember 1 July 2015 being quite cloudy - indeed we even had some very large raindrops in the afternoon and the temperature fell no lower than 28C. Very strange experience.



June 29th this year was the same, I suspect the two setups were very similar, both essentially one-day wonders. I mentioned this in the daily notes I take. They say -Some sun in the morning until mid afternoon, then mainly cloudy with some brightness at times – splashy raindrops at 28.6C!


I was sitting outside and I remember the drops evaporated very quickly after hitting the gound. If you weren't outside at the time, you'd probably never have realised it was happening. I wonder what the highest temperature in the UK is that rain has been observed, probably no higher than the low 30s I would imagine. But that is obviously a discussion for another thread.....


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Heavy Weather 2013
22 July 2019 18:52:47
Apparently the ECM has followed ICON and gone with 34C on Thursday
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Ally Pally Snowman
22 July 2019 18:54:10

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Apparently the ECM has followed ICON and gone with 34C on Thursday


 


It's got 36c quite widely  Essex and Kent. 


 


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Quantum
22 July 2019 19:01:02

ECM maxing out at 36C, 1C cooler than before.


 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Heavy Weather 2013
22 July 2019 19:02:56

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


 


It's got 36c quite widely  Essex and Kent. 


 



Oh that’s good news. It wasn’t a HD view so couldn’t make it out properly


Mark
Beckton, E London
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Ally Pally Snowman
22 July 2019 19:10:19

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


Oh that’s good news. It wasn’t a HD view so couldn’t make it out properly



 


ECM was 2c below the UK max today so 38c remains a real prospect for Thursday.  The heat looks a bit more west as well so maybe Heathrow and northolt the stations to watch. 


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
22 July 2019 19:14:06

ECM also has another mini plume next week high 20s in the SE Monday to Wednesday. 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Polar Low
22 July 2019 19:21:18

To be honest it’s a fab summer run with the scadi high winning out.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


ECM also has another mini plume next week high 20s in the SE Monday to Wednesday. 


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Arcus
22 July 2019 19:31:49
It's interesting that the ECM gives the block more cujones... it's typical of the way it handles winter blocking in the same area, and more readily diverts the energy from the Atlantic under the block. There may be an emerging trend here toward blocking pushing back post t+144. Fascinating times... meanwhile lots of heat and storms to come.
Ben,
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Polar Low
22 July 2019 19:35:48

Yep, you have to say also Ben that’s a fab gfs set for London always on the warm/ v warm side.


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=0&y=0&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&run=12&ext=fr&mode=7&sort=0


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Arcus 

It's interesting that the ECM gives the block more cujones... it's typical of the way it handles winter blocking in the same area, and more readily diverts the energy from the Atlantic under the block. There may be an emerging trend here toward blocking pushing back post t+144. Fascinating times... meanwhile lots of heat and storms to come.

Downpour
22 July 2019 19:50:04

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


Yep, you have to say also Ben that’s a fab gfs set for London always on the warm/ v warm side.


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=0&y=0&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&run=12&ext=fr&mode=7&sort=0


 


 


 


 



 


that’s a remarkable suite. Crikey. Warm, hot even, in the SE this weekend?


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RobN
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22 July 2019 20:00:46

A further notable softening of the cool down on the 12z GEFS - a process which started with the 0Z.


In fact on some members there is barely a cool down at all.


Interesting times...


 


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
White Meadows
22 July 2019 20:13:20
UKM extended going for continued HP influence for the south east:
https://amz.nwstatic.co.uk/monthly_2019_01/ukm2.2019020500_168_lant.troplant_prp_fcst.gentracker.png.3f8c82dac593592fa08bd069154848d5.png 

Where’s Ian today? He’s been awfully quiet the past 48 hours.
Polar Low
22 July 2019 20:16:45

A fab ecm mean with High pressure winning  out as we head into August 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=168&mode=1&map=1&type=1&archive=0


 

Arcus
22 July 2019 20:18:51

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

UKM extended going for continued HP influence for the south east:
https://amz.nwstatic.co.uk/monthly_2019_01/ukm2.2019020500_168_lant.troplant_prp_fcst.gentracker.png.3f8c82dac593592fa08bd069154848d5.png

Where’s Ian today? He’s been awfully quiet the past 48 hours.


That chart is not the extended chart from the UMKO run that we normally see. There's no such thing as a T+168 chart on the deterministic run, just yet ()


That chart is an ensemble run from the UKMO Unified Model MOGREPS-M ensemble suite - the Control Run most likely. 


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Polar Low
22 July 2019 20:20:14

Indeed D P also very dry for S/E


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=0&y=0&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&run=12&ext=fr&mode=3&sort=0


 


 


Originally Posted by: Downpour 


 


 


that’s a remarkable suite. Crikey. Warm, hot even, in the SE this weekend?


Brian Gaze
22 July 2019 20:29:23

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


That chart is an ensemble run from the UKMO Unified Model MOGREPS-M ensemble suite - the Control Run most likely. 



 This is one of those questions that gets raised every few months. Next up must be the turn of the "the UM 144 is widely considered a joke in the business". 


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