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Offline Roger Parsons  
#81 Posted : 19 May 2019 17:47:45(UTC)
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This link ties in rather well...
Compassionate conservation is 'seriously flawed'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48315709

And for those who share my musical taste - try The Blackbird, Hornpipe ; The Chorus, Reel.

[Best respond by PM so we don't rock the boat by going off topic.]

https://www.itma.ie/digital-library/video/the-blackbird-hornpipe-the-chorus-reel-padraig-mcgovern-peter-carberry

 


Roger

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RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

Offline Caz  
#82 Posted : 20 May 2019 07:47:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons Go to Quoted Post

 

Most of us have done the following, myself included, so this is NOT criticising you, Caz.

  1. Feed the garden birds
  2. Allow them somewhere to nest
  3. Feel bad when a predator eats them
  4. Blame the predator for doing what comes naturally

Where the predator is a domestic pet like a cat, some folks rant about there being too many cats and the harm they do by killing "our" birds.

On the other hand it is a truism that a predator is its prey's best friend and ally, as it is the means to weed out the weak and keep the population fit and in proportion. Populations of wild predators often follow the fluctuations of their prey populations.

Not so pets, but then we have inflated garden populations of birds being stuffed with extra food, so they do need some additional control. Trouble is cats don't know when to stop.

On a positive note, cats also control the numbers of small mammals that scoff your surplus birdfood on the ground. There are more of these than you might expect because you are feeding them so well!

As the nonsense verse goes:

"Big fleas have little fleas upon their backs the bite 'em.

Little fleas have smaller fleas, so on ad infinitum."

Has anyone found a good strategy for deterring cats from murdering birds in the garden?

Roger  

  Sounds familiar Roger!  Even though I know the score, it makes no difference!  

At least the Blackbirds are employing a more sensible strategy this year and building nests further from the feline predators.  Although Magpies are probably a bigger threat as they’re coming into our gardens more and you know when they’re around because the Blackbirds make an awful racket!  Swing and roundabouts I suppose!

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Offline Roger Parsons  
#83 Posted : 29 May 2019 06:00:30(UTC)
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Barn Owl webcam
The hope is that the Barn Owl eggs will hatch any time now.
You can watch the action on line, the endless sitting by the female, the males efforts to bring her food, their constant bonding activity, food, grooming and sex. Speakers on to listen to their chatter.

http://www.lenpicktrust.org.uk/owl-project/4593449091


Roger

p.s. A bit of egg shell is showing. 08.35hrs approx. Is this a good hatching or a casualty?

Roger

 

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RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

Offline Roger Parsons  
#84 Posted : 29 May 2019 08:16:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons Go to Quoted Post

Barn Owl webcam
The hope is that the Barn Owl eggs will hatch any time now.
You can watch the action on line, the endless sitting by the female, the males efforts to bring her food, their constant bonding activity, food, grooming and sex. Speakers on to listen to their chatter.

http://www.lenpicktrust.org.uk/owl-project/4593449091


Roger

p.s. A bit of egg shell is showing. 08.35hrs approx. Is this a good hatching or a casualty?

Roger

I am told this is the start of hatching. Enjoy the unfolding story.

 

R.

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RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

Offline Roger Parsons  
#85 Posted : 29 May 2019 12:46:22(UTC)
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A somewhat better view of chick 1.

http://www.lenpicktrust.org.uk/owl-project/4593449091

Roger

 

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RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

Offline Roger Parsons  
#86 Posted : 31 May 2019 19:33:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

  Sounds familiar Roger!  Even though I know the score, it makes no difference!  

At least the Blackbirds are employing a more sensible strategy this year and building nests further from the feline predators.  Although Magpies are probably a bigger threat as they’re coming into our gardens more and you know when they’re around because the Blackbirds make an awful racket!  Swing and roundabouts I suppose!

After our chat about cats I was a bit startled to read the following article, Caz. It makes some robust claims.

How wildcats will be reared for release in England and Wales

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/30/how-wildcats-will-be-reared-for-release-in-england-and-wales

Roger

 

RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

Offline Roger Parsons  
#87 Posted : 01 June 2019 11:50:21(UTC)
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Two barn owl chicks and the next one is due to hatch soon. Roger

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RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

Offline Roger Parsons  
#88 Posted : 02 June 2019 07:14:19(UTC)
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Egg 3 hatched earlier this morning - exciting stuff.
Roger

p.s. I am not going to start a new thread on the following topic - but readers will know that DNA is increasingly being used to survey for species in media like lake water. So many things have now been DNA sequenced it is a relatively well-tested technology now.

Loch Ness monster study makes ‘surprising’ find
https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/loch-ness-monster-study-makes-surprising-find-1-4939277


R

Edited by user 02 June 2019 10:45:24(UTC)  | Reason: addition

RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

Offline Roger Parsons  
#89 Posted : 02 June 2019 17:48:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

  Sounds familiar Roger!  Even though I know the score, it makes no difference!  

At least the Blackbirds are employing a more sensible strategy this year and building nests further from the feline predators.  Although Magpies are probably a bigger threat as they’re coming into our gardens more and you know when they’re around because the Blackbirds make an awful racket!  Swing and roundabouts I suppose!

 

Hi Caz

On the subject of feline predators, a friend has just sent me the following link. 

I hope you and others will enjoy it a much as I did. Astounding.

West Lothian cat owner catches incredible moment tiny mouse fends off cat named Tom - The Scotsman

https://www.scotsman.com/news/west-lothian-cat-owner-catches-incredible-moment-tiny-mouse-fends-off-cat-named-tom-1-4939451

Roger

RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

Offline KevBrads1  
#90 Posted : 03 June 2019 18:25:32(UTC)
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Awwww....a wren

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Offline Bertwhistle  
#91 Posted : 03 June 2019 18:48:10(UTC)
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Our brave little blackbirds have left two nests in the garden so far, one certainly predated by magpies and the other at least hassled away. One dead chick found on the lawn. Male still sings in the walnut tree but- and I don't blame them- they've gone elsewhere for attempt three, which I know they've made, as I hear the alarm calls further off.

Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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Offline Bertwhistle  
#92 Posted : 03 June 2019 18:49:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 Go to Quoted Post

Awwww....a wren

Very lovely, clear images Kev.

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Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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#93 Posted : 14 June 2019 18:56:40(UTC)
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Fortunate to see a pair of barn owls on the hunt. A beautiful ghostly hunter.

 

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#94 Posted : 14 June 2019 19:12:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 Go to Quoted Post

Fortunate to see a pair of barn owls on the hunt. A beautiful ghostly hunter.

 

...

You are very lucky to see these. There were resident barn owls hereabouts many years ago but, like several other animals, they are creatures of reserves or special places now.

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Online Lionel Hutz  
#95 Posted : 14 June 2019 20:11:14(UTC)
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Absolutely stunning photos, Kev.
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68m ASL

Offline Roger Parsons  
#96 Posted : 15 June 2019 13:38:55(UTC)
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Len Pick Trust Owlcam - update on 13th June:
"Yesterday evening we had a report of a chick being eaten by the female owl.
This is not surprising as barn owls often use this strategy when times are tough.
It ensures some owlets will survive."
On 15th: "Two healthy chicks but the smallest has died overnight." More:
http://www.lenpicktrust.org.uk/owl-project/4593449091

Roger

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West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

Offline Roger Parsons  
#97 Posted : 20 June 2019 17:59:15(UTC)
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2000+ Swifts flew south over Gibraltar Point today. Don't worry - they are not off to Africa yet!

https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/wildlife-guides/bird-a-z/swift/breeding-nesting-habits/

Roger

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RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

Offline DEW  
#98 Posted : 21 June 2019 06:31:01(UTC)
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It's June, but one cuckoo in Dorset yesterday hadn't 'changed his tune'. A late arrival?

It has been observed that less snow falls here than any other place of equal extent in the kingdom, occasioned by the shelter of the hills and the warmth of the sea breezes - Alexander Hay, Guide to Chichester, 1805
Offline Roger Parsons  
#99 Posted : 21 June 2019 06:39:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DEW Go to Quoted Post

It's June, but one cuckoo in Dorset yesterday hadn't 'changed his tune'. A late arrival?

I think it is a generalisation with a bit of flexibility, DEW. Give it a bit longer, it will happen!

Roger

RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

Offline Roger Parsons  
#100 Posted : 21 June 2019 07:08:18(UTC)
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Why are some "alien bird-introductions" successful and others not?

Birds: we studied 4,000 'alien introductions' to find out why some were successful

https://theconversation....why-some-were-successful

Roger

RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

No county (Lincolnshire) has better churches and worse houses. The poorer sort of people wash their clothes with hog's dung, and burn dried cow's dung for want of better fuel; whence comes the Lincolnshire proverb: "Where the hogs shite soap and the cows shite fire".

Curiosities of Great Britain (c.1780)

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