Rob K
11 January 2019 18:45:36

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Shame you can't see and get precipitation type on para charts. 


 



Meteociel has all those charts for the parallel as well. 


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Gavin D
11 January 2019 18:49:34

Coldest 850's don't hang around long on this evening's ECM


ECM0-144.thumb.GIF.c93135faafb684d75ef0119d84a1e656.GIFECM0-168.thumb.GIF.c5f23e2b0358a6c90c302950d948d587.GIFECM0-192.thumb.GIF.74730b797199cf3705cdf541ad2dea73.GIFECM0-216.thumb.GIF.248081dc6772cef916a702830e651b56.GIF

kmoorman
11 January 2019 18:52:58

As I suspected -this run has undone all of the gains from the 6Z ensemble.  At least down here


 



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Rob K
11 January 2019 18:58:23
Weird looking ECM at 240. The sort of pressure pattern that you just don’t ever see in reality, so I’m rather sceptical.
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11 January 2019 19:07:16

Originally Posted by: kmoorman 


As I suspected -this run has undone all of the gains from the 6Z ensemble.  At least down here


 




Annoying lol


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Brian Gaze
11 January 2019 19:09:01

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


 


Shame you can't see and get precipitation type on para charts. 



Cumulative ppt type on TWO here:


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/gfsp.aspx?run=12&charthour=6&chartname=preciptype&chartregion=uk&charttag=Precip%20type


 


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Brian Gaze
11 January 2019 19:11:47

Remarkable how ECM manages to dance with the cold uppers and keep them away from the UK. The 144 charts looks to be the coldest for the majority of the UK. 



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Hippydave
11 January 2019 19:29:05

Odd looking FI to the ECM run, ending on a chilly note, with I imagine some hill snow around. The T240 chart is loaded with potential with the LP dropping SE'wards to join the Scandi trough ready to advect some proper cold air our way.


All a bit academic at that range of course but fun to see.


Nice to be able to say it's still looking the switch to colder more unsettled weather is strongly favoured, with snow a possibility for just about anywhere at times. It's not looking like a prolonged cold spell down here but it does look cold and unsettled with a low chance of something more prolonged setting up.


As it stands I'd be surprised if I didn't see some snow falling, with maybe some temporary accumulations at times although I'm not expecting much more than that for the time being. 


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tallyho_83
11 January 2019 19:40:48

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


Edit: Tally, that parallel chart reminds me VERY much of early December 2010



True they both go up to 1075mb's over Greenland!


25th Jan 2019:



 


16th December 2010 - You said it: 


 



 


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Arcus
11 January 2019 20:00:26

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Weird looking ECM at 240. The sort of pressure pattern that you just don’t ever see in reality, so I’m rather sceptical.


A chart with a (weakly) +ve NAO, and as I mentioned last night when the Jet is being disrupted, relatively fragile looking blocks can form and maintain themselves, so I don't think it's an unreasonable chart to see in that scenario.


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11 January 2019 20:06:20

. 12z ECMWF Model run:


It is not that interesting today..


Quiet and neither Cold nor MILD, but chilly yes.


And not much weather action after T120 eh.


Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Brian Gaze
11 January 2019 20:09:22

ECM op was one of the milder runs later on. 



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Gandalf The White
11 January 2019 20:14:32

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


True they both go up to 1075mb's over Greenland!


25th Jan 2019:



 


16th December 2010 - You said it: 


 



 



Except that the upper block is notably weaker this time - and that is a significant difference.


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jhall
11 January 2019 20:15:46

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


ECM op was one of the milder runs later on. 




That looks to be pretty much in line with what the GFS ensemble is saying.


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Gusty
11 January 2019 20:24:48

De Bilt ensembles.


The balance is starting to tip in favour of cold.


http://www.weersite.net/?actueel&ensemble&ecmwfpluim


 


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Rob K
11 January 2019 20:28:51

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


De Bilt ensembles.


The balance is starting to tip in favour of cold.


http://www.weersite.net/?actueel&ensemble&ecmwfpluim


 



Looks like the ECM control run was interesting!


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Polar Low
11 January 2019 20:36:48

Mean getting tasty t144 n n/e would do good Nice



 


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


De Bilt ensembles.


The balance is starting to tip in favour of cold.


http://www.weersite.net/?actueel&ensemble&ecmwfpluim


 


Polar Low
11 January 2019 20:58:00

Westward correction from its mean M quite rare indeed



 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 

At 144hr the ECM 12z op is very similiar to the UKMO at the same time point. 



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU12_144_1.png

Polar Low
11 January 2019 21:06:12

very few of Ian,s yellows left >16 Jan end of Jan at the surface now Nice


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=0&y=0&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&run=12&ext=fr&mode=7&sort=0


 


 

Polar Low
11 January 2019 21:10:30

Aye yum


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


From next weekend on wards things look...'INTERESTING' for the whole of the UK, if this set up verifies!? 


 






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