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#201 Posted : 20 July 2012 09:02:04(UTC)
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Hal Roach (The Express) presents Laurel (Positive Weather Services) and Hardy (British Weather Sevices) in "Below Zero!" as the comedy duo attempt to make range long forecasts resulting in the usual ineptitude, slapstick and farce. Special cameo appearance by **********.
Old weather forecasts and natural phenomena videos can be seen on this site

http://m.youtube.com/my_playlists
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#202 Posted : 20 July 2012 09:48:39(UTC)
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Hello and thankyou from Chris observing from Guildford Surrey with a life long like and interest in the weather TWO is the place to be; reading the output posting daily totals and reading the just for fun.
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#203 Posted : 20 July 2012 11:16:42(UTC)
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oh dear

UK Outlook for Wednesday 25 Jul 2012 to Friday 3 Aug 2012:

A weakening slow-moving band of cloud and rain across central Britain on Wednesday may affect more southern parts. Northern parts brighter with a few showers possible, and the best of the very warm and dry weather hanging on in the far southeast. Next weekend, there should still be a good deal of fine and dry weather around, but there are signals for more unsettled conditions to spread in from the northwest, with strengthening winds, and temperatures returning to near normal for the time of year. Into the following week, a north-south split looks most likely with the best of the drier and brighter weather in the south

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#204 Posted : 20 July 2012 11:18:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Stone Cold Go to Quoted Post

oh dear

UK Outlook for Wednesday 25 Jul 2012 to Friday 3 Aug 2012:

A weakening slow-moving band of cloud and rain across central Britain on Wednesday may affect more southern parts. Northern parts brighter with a few showers possible, and the best of the very warm and dry weather hanging on in the far southeast. Next weekend, there should still be a good deal of fine and dry weather around, but there are signals for more unsettled conditions to spread in from the northwest, with strengthening winds, and temperatures returning to near normal for the time of year. Into the following week, a north-south split looks most likely with the best of the drier and brighter weather in the south

ffs so they are going with gfs as opposed to ecm'ukmo?you couldn't make this up.

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#205 Posted : 20 July 2012 11:18:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Stone Cold Go to Quoted Post

oh dear

UK Outlook for Wednesday 25 Jul 2012 to Friday 3 Aug 2012:

A weakening slow-moving band of cloud and rain across central Britain on Wednesday may affect more southern parts. Northern parts brighter with a few showers possible, and the best of the very warm and dry weather hanging on in the far southeast. Next weekend, there should still be a good deal of fine and dry weather around, but there are signals for more unsettled conditions to spread in from the northwest, with strengthening winds, and temperatures returning to near normal for the time of year. Into the following week, a north-south split looks most likely with the best of the drier and brighter weather in the south

 

So much for the start of summer it seems .....maybe GFS is righjt after all.

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#206 Posted : 20 July 2012 11:31:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Weathermac Go to Quoted Post

So much for the start of summer it seems .....maybe GFS is righjt after all.

 The models have consistently suggested there would be a warmer period coming up, but that it would be more focussed in the south. There has been nothing to suggest a heatwave nor any real signal that the warmer than average temperatures would extend much longer than a few days. Indeed the indication was that they would return to close to average for the UK for late July. Average in July is summer.

As for cherry picking the met outlook. How about this take on the same paragraph.

UK Outlook for Wednesday 25 Jul 2012 to Friday 3 Aug 2012:

A weakening slow-moving band of cloud and rain across central Britain on Wednesday may affect more southern parts. Northern parts brighter with a few showers possible, and the best of the very warm and dry weather hanging on in the far southeast. Next weekend, there should still be a good deal of fine and dry weather around, but there are signals for more unsettled conditions to spread in from the northwest, with strengthening winds, and temperatures returning to near normal for the time of year. Into the following week, a north-south split looks most likely with the best of the drier and brighter weather in the south

 

 

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#207 Posted : 20 July 2012 16:16:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Albert Steptoe Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Stone Cold Go to Quoted Post

oh dear

UK Outlook for Wednesday 25 Jul 2012 to Friday 3 Aug 2012:

A weakening slow-moving band of cloud and rain across central Britain on Wednesday may affect more southern parts. Northern parts brighter with a few showers possible, and the best of the very warm and dry weather hanging on in the far southeast. Next weekend, there should still be a good deal of fine and dry weather around, but there are signals for more unsettled conditions to spread in from the northwest, with strengthening winds, and temperatures returning to near normal for the time of year. Into the following week, a north-south split looks most likely with the best of the drier and brighter weather in the south

ffs so they are going with gfs as opposed to ecm'ukmo?you couldn't make this up.

They DON'T use the GFS.

The ECM ems data set must indicate this signal as well as their own model ems.


Duane.




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#208 Posted : 20 July 2012 16:37:17(UTC)
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Another good video presentation from the BBC about why the weather will settle down and warm up over the next few days, and highlighting the uncertainty for next Friday (Olympics opening ceremony). Peter Gibbs also gives a brief explanation of ensemble forecasting past 5 days ahead: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/18931767

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#209 Posted : 20 July 2012 16:41:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: danm Go to Quoted Post

Another good video presentation from the BBC about why the weather will settle down and warm up over the next few days, and highlighting the uncertainty for next Friday (Olympics opening ceremony). Peter Gibbs also gives a brief explanation of ensemble forecasting past 5 days ahead: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/18931767

Interesting explanation of why 5 days and beyond they have such a range for possible temperatures (something which seems to have been aggravating one or two people).

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#210 Posted : 20 July 2012 18:14:41(UTC)
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Probably been posted before, but worth reading again...

http://www.monbiot.com/2012/06/15/storm-warning/

Storm Warning

"...You might as well draw predictions out of a hat. But Jonathan Powell generates headlines, the Express generates publicity for him, and its readers can be trusted to forget what he said the previous week, so what’s not to like?

Seeing into the future? The Daily Express won’t even look into the past."

 

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#211 Posted : 21 July 2012 22:13:18(UTC)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ and met o give sunny hot weather all week on the graphics side charts tues 31c
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#212 Posted : 22 July 2012 19:09:15(UTC)
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Like the way the forecaster on Countryfile said "big events expected by the end of the week".

Am rubbing hands in sweaty palmed anticipation.


PS: Just realised what he meant! Wouldn't be good timing in any case.

Edited by user 22 July 2012 19:23:31(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified


Ian D J, Folkestone Harbour.

Predicting the weather is like making love to a beautiful woman - if you don't keep on top of things, or come up short, you might encounter hostile conditions later.
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#213 Posted : 23 July 2012 11:55:05(UTC)
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Met Office contingency planners update for August to October. This part seems key "reatively large uncertainties in UK weather patterns even by the start of August."

http://www.metoffice.gov.../s/A3-plots-temp-ASO.pdf
http://www.metoffice.gov.../A3-plots-precip-ASO.pdf

For August slightly warmer and wetter seems to be favoured (as I read it).

"August often sees some of the highest temperatures of the calendar year. Above-average temperatures are favoured for this August. In spite of this, the risk of heatwaves (which typically occur in the UK in July and August) remains close to climatological levels because of the very wet soil conditions following exceptionally high rainfall during the first half of the summer. Also, there is still a significant chance of temperatures below those of Augusts of the past decade (see individual pink points on Figure T2), consistent with the expectation that sea surface temperatures remain below average to the southwest of the UK."

"During August there is a slightly increased probability, compared to normal, of wetter-than-average conditions, although the spread of probabilities is large. Given the very wet ground across much of the UK, additional rainfall in August has the potential to cause greater impacts than would normally be expected. Figure P1 (blue line) shows the change to exceptionally wet conditions across the UK during the past three months."

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#214 Posted : 23 July 2012 12:45:27(UTC)
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Better get prepared already had plenty .:)
Hello and thankyou from Chris observing from Guildford Surrey with a life long like and interest in the weather TWO is the place to be; reading the output posting daily totals and reading the just for fun.
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#215 Posted : 23 July 2012 19:52:49(UTC)
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UK Outlook for Saturday 28 Jul 2012 to Monday 6 Aug 2012:

Unsettled over the weekend, with a risk of showers, which may turn heavy and prolonged in places, with some drier brighter spells too. Locations and timings of rain are currently uncertain. Blustery winds in the north at first spreading across many areas, and feeling much cooler than recent days, with temperatures returning to around average, or slightly below for the time of year. Into the new week and thereafter, unsettled conditions are set to continue. The heaviest of the rain or showers perhaps in the northwest at first, although there is risk of rain or showers across all parts, along with, drier, brighter spells. During the Olympics the Met Office will have local forecasts so that everyone can make the most of the Games experience.

UK Outlook for Monday 6 Aug 2012 to Monday 20 Aug 2012:

It is most likely that the weather will remain changeable. The south perhaps most likely to see the best of any dry, bright, and at times warm weather. Some rain is likely in places, which may be heavy at times. A lengthy spell of hot, sunny weather across the whole country currently looks unlikely. This outlook gives a broad description of the type of weather that is likely to affect the UK as a whole, including significant changes in the type of weather and an indication of how it may differ from what you may normally .

From the met office I like the writing in this especially the end bit. I'll make the most of the next few days .
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#216 Posted : 28 July 2012 22:25:49(UTC)
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Latest from the met office around the Olympic park.
10 °C.

Sunday:

Sunshine at times, especially early on, but showers developing quite widely, heavy and thundery, perhaps with hail, giving a risk of local downpours. A brisk breeze, so feeling rather cool. Maximum Temperature 20 °C.Updated: 1531 on Sat 28 Jul 2012
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#217 Posted : 31 July 2012 11:46:41(UTC)
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Changes today in the outlook:

UK Outlook for Sunday 5 Aug 2012 to Tuesday 14 Aug 2012:

Remaining predominantly unsettled, with below average temperatures, sunny spells and showers in most districts. Initially, the the showers should be heaviest and most frequent in the east, perhaps with hail and thunder, before becoming lighter and more scattered from the west into the new working week. By midweek, a northwest-southeast spilt looks likely to develop, with the north and west remaining unsettled and rather windy, with occasionally heavy outbreaks of rain. There will be some drier and brighter weather in these areas, the best of this likely to the east of high ground. Meanwhile in the south and east, there should be lengthier drier and brighter periods, but again with some rain or occasional showers. Temperatures will be mainly below average, but perhaps approaching average at times across southeastern parts.

Updated: 1101 on Tue 31 Jul 2012

UK Outlook for Wednesday 15 Aug 2012 to Wednesday 29 Aug 2012:

There is no clear signal for any particular weather type to dominate through this period, although below average temperatures seem more likely than above average, particularly towards the south and east. A continuation of the weather conditions that have predominated since mid-July seems most probable. A lengthy spell of hot, sunny weather across the whole country currently looks unlikely.

Updated: 1202 on Tue 31 Jul 2012

The first period is looking cooler. An interesting new first sentence for the second period for here in the SE

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#218 Posted : 31 July 2012 12:24:16(UTC)
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It nothing new about below average beacuse end of summer season every where in N Hemisphere world start going below average in end of August.  It likely September could be the month for well above average since we didn't get any above average month since March.

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#219 Posted : 31 July 2012 12:30:22(UTC)
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Be good if we get some decent spells of warm sunny weather after storms.
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#220 Posted : 31 July 2012 12:34:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jiries Go to Quoted Post

It nothing new about below average beacuse end of summer season every where in N Hemisphere world start going below average in end of August.  It likely September could be the month for well above average since we didn't get any above average month since March.

I think it means below average compared to the average for late August though, George, not below average compared to the whole summer average

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