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#321 Posted : 19 June 2012 23:54:33(UTC)
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Chelsea have apparently offered Wigan £4m for winger Victor Moses

Dave Whelan the Wigan chairman has accused Chelsea of "taking the Mickey" with their bid for him.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-taking-mickey-moses-bid-111501756.html


 
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#322 Posted : 19 June 2012 23:56:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

Chelsea have apparently offered Wigan £4m for winger Victor Moses

Dave Whelan the Wigan chairman has accused Chelsea of "taking the Mickey" with their bid for him.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-taking-mickey-moses-bid-111501756.html

 

£4m would be max imo at present. He is a decent prospect but wouldn't pay silly amounts at this stage. £4m and they can have Josh McEachran on loan for a full season

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Personally, out of the potential major candidates, I have no preference. AVB, Capello, Benitez and Blanc are all better than 'Arry.

I tend to try and forget about Martinez and Moyes.

AVB now 1/5 with Sky Bet.

'Arry obviously still has a good contact in the boardroom.

"Watertown is quiet. It's almost as if a bomb has dropped somewhere." Susan Candiotti, CNN, April 19th 2013.
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#324 Posted : 20 June 2012 00:05:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

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Chelsea have apparently offered Wigan £4m for winger Victor Moses

Dave Whelan the Wigan chairman has accused Chelsea of "taking the Mickey" with their bid for him.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-taking-mickey-moses-bid-111501756.html

 

£4m would be max imo at present. He is a decent prospect but wouldn't pay silly amounts at this stage. £4m and they can have Josh McEachran on loan for a full season

Outside of whelan's hype, realisticaly what chance has he got of being a first team player.

Which presumably he is now.

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#325 Posted : 20 June 2012 00:10:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

Chelsea have apparently offered Wigan £4m for winger Victor Moses

Dave Whelan the Wigan chairman has accused Chelsea of "taking the Mickey" with their bid for him.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-taking-mickey-moses-bid-111501756.html

 

£4m would be max imo at present. He is a decent prospect but wouldn't pay silly amounts at this stage. £4m and they can have Josh McEachran on loan for a full season

Outside of whelan's hype, realisticaly what chance has he got of being a first team player.

Which presumably he is now.

None, Not now we got Hazard and potentially Hulk and not to forget De Bruyne

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#326 Posted : 20 June 2012 00:13:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

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Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

Chelsea have apparently offered Wigan £4m for winger Victor Moses

Dave Whelan the Wigan chairman has accused Chelsea of "taking the Mickey" with their bid for him.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-taking-mickey-moses-bid-111501756.html

 

£4m would be max imo at present. He is a decent prospect but wouldn't pay silly amounts at this stage. £4m and they can have Josh McEachran on loan for a full season

Outside of whelan's hype, realisticaly what chance has he got of being a first team player.

Which presumably he is now.

None, Not now we got Hazard and potentially Hulk and not to forget De Bruyne

Should prove interesting if AVB gets the Spurs job.

"Watertown is quiet. It's almost as if a bomb has dropped somewhere." Susan Candiotti, CNN, April 19th 2013.
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#327 Posted : 20 June 2012 00:15:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

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Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

Chelsea have apparently offered Wigan £4m for winger Victor Moses

Dave Whelan the Wigan chairman has accused Chelsea of "taking the Mickey" with their bid for him.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-taking-mickey-moses-bid-111501756.html

 

£4m would be max imo at present. He is a decent prospect but wouldn't pay silly amounts at this stage. £4m and they can have Josh McEachran on loan for a full season

Outside of whelan's hype, realisticaly what chance has he got of being a first team player.

Which presumably he is now.

None, Not now we got Hazard and potentially Hulk and not to forget De Bruyne

Don't see point in buying him then, if he is only in it for the money, fair enough, however if he has reasonable talent it is going to be wasted, playing for the second team. Possible ruining his development, can happen.

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#328 Posted : 20 June 2012 00:17:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

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Chelsea have apparently offered Wigan £4m for winger Victor Moses

Dave Whelan the Wigan chairman has accused Chelsea of "taking the Mickey" with their bid for him.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-taking-mickey-moses-bid-111501756.html

 

£4m would be max imo at present. He is a decent prospect but wouldn't pay silly amounts at this stage. £4m and they can have Josh McEachran on loan for a full season

Outside of whelan's hype, realisticaly what chance has he got of being a first team player.

Which presumably he is now.

None, Not now we got Hazard and potentially Hulk and not to forget De Bruyne

Should prove interesting if AVB gets the Spurs job.

Will Spurs pay £30m? even if they do get AVB, I think if Spurs wanna spend that amount they could use it more wisely tbh and get 2/3 Players in.

Hulk stated he wants to join Chelsea but it's down to Porto, Guess if he leaves Porto it depends if he wants Champions League Football.It wouldn't suprise me if City come in for him also if Silva leaves

Porto have signed Jackson Martinez dunno if can read anything into that though

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#329 Posted : 20 June 2012 00:30:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

Chelsea have apparently offered Wigan £4m for winger Victor Moses

Dave Whelan the Wigan chairman has accused Chelsea of "taking the Mickey" with their bid for him.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-taking-mickey-moses-bid-111501756.html

 

£4m would be max imo at present. He is a decent prospect but wouldn't pay silly amounts at this stage. £4m and they can have Josh McEachran on loan for a full season

Outside of whelan's hype, realisticaly what chance has he got of being a first team player.

Which presumably he is now.

None, Not now we got Hazard and potentially Hulk and not to forget De Bruyne

Should prove interesting if AVB gets the Spurs job.

Will Spurs pay £30m? even if they do get AVB,

Hulk stated he wants to join Chelsea but it's down to Porto, Guess if he leaves Porto it depends if he wants Champions League Football.It wouldn't suprise me if City come in for him also if Silva leaves

Porto have signed Jackson Martinez dunno if can read anything into that though

Obviously Porto want to start a bidding war and I still think Spurs will go for Remy. However, Hulk may be inclined to follow his old manager. Maybe not.

One thing's for sure, Levy is going to have to convince AVB that the money is available for his 'project'. And not simply to be financed by selling Modric, whom AVB reportedly wishes to keep. But a Modric sale would give AVB even more cash obviously.

If there's one certainty in all of this, Modric will NOT be going to another PL club, much as some delusional Mancs may hope for. There are bigger clubs out there for Levy to do business with than Man U.

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#330 Posted : 20 June 2012 00:42:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

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Originally Posted by: Romfordman Go to Quoted Post

Chelsea have apparently offered Wigan £4m for winger Victor Moses

Dave Whelan the Wigan chairman has accused Chelsea of "taking the Mickey" with their bid for him.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-taking-mickey-moses-bid-111501756.html

 

£4m would be max imo at present. He is a decent prospect but wouldn't pay silly amounts at this stage. £4m and they can have Josh McEachran on loan for a full season

Outside of whelan's hype, realisticaly what chance has he got of being a first team player.

Which presumably he is now.

None, Not now we got Hazard and potentially Hulk and not to forget De Bruyne

Should prove interesting if AVB gets the Spurs job.

Will Spurs pay £30m? even if they do get AVB,

Hulk stated he wants to join Chelsea but it's down to Porto, Guess if he leaves Porto it depends if he wants Champions League Football.It wouldn't suprise me if City come in for him also if Silva leaves

Porto have signed Jackson Martinez dunno if can read anything into that though

Obviously Porto want to start a bidding war and I still think Spurs will go for Remy. However, Hulk may be inclined to follow his old manager. Maybe not.

One thing's for sure, Levy is going to have to convince AVB that the money is available for his 'project'. And not simply to be financed by selling Modric, whom AVB reportedly wishes to keep. But a Modric sale would give AVB even more cash obviously.

If there's one certainty in all of this, Modric will NOT be going to another PL club, much as some delusional Mancs may hope for. There are bigger clubs out there for Levy to do business with than Man U.

That's why I think if AVB joins Spurs it would be silly to spend £30m on One Player It'll be wiser to rebuild with them funds and also from the sale of Modric and start building the project, I don't mean quantity over quality but I think 5/6 Players could come in with them kind of funds and will be of quality still.

Your right about the Porto bidding war though but we have done alot of business with Porto in the past, wouldn't suprise me if we offer a player plus cash deal.

 

As sson as these Euro's are over it's gonna get interesting, really curious to see what City do and the Mancs are looking to rebuild.

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#331 Posted : 20 June 2012 00:51:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post

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Chelsea have apparently offered Wigan £4m for winger Victor Moses

Dave Whelan the Wigan chairman has accused Chelsea of "taking the Mickey" with their bid for him.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/chelsea-taking-mickey-moses-bid-111501756.html

 

£4m would be max imo at present. He is a decent prospect but wouldn't pay silly amounts at this stage. £4m and they can have Josh McEachran on loan for a full season

Outside of whelan's hype, realisticaly what chance has he got of being a first team player.

Which presumably he is now.

None, Not now we got Hazard and potentially Hulk and not to forget De Bruyne

Should prove interesting if AVB gets the Spurs job.

Will Spurs pay £30m? even if they do get AVB,

Hulk stated he wants to join Chelsea but it's down to Porto, Guess if he leaves Porto it depends if he wants Champions League Football.It wouldn't suprise me if City come in for him also if Silva leaves

Porto have signed Jackson Martinez dunno if can read anything into that though

Obviously Porto want to start a bidding war and I still think Spurs will go for Remy. However, Hulk may be inclined to follow his old manager. Maybe not.

One thing's for sure, Levy is going to have to convince AVB that the money is available for his 'project'. And not simply to be financed by selling Modric, whom AVB reportedly wishes to keep. But a Modric sale would give AVB even more cash obviously.

If there's one certainty in all of this, Modric will NOT be going to another PL club, much as some delusional Mancs may hope for. There are bigger clubs out there for Levy to do business with than Man U.

That's why I think if AVB joins Spurs it would be silly to spend £30m on One Player It'll be wiser to rebuild with them funds and also from the sale of Modric and start building the project, I don't mean quantity over quality but I think 5/6 Players could come in with them kind of funds and will be of quality still.

Your right about the Porto bidding war though but we have done alot of business with Porto in the past, wouldn't suprise me if we offer a player plus cash deal.

 

As sson as these Euro's are over it's gonna get interesting, really curious to see what City do and the Mancs are looking to rebuild.

Hulk is a luxury Spurs may or may not be able to afford. Anyway, I'm far more interested in building from the back. A spine, featuring Vertonghen with Sandro playing ahead of him is going to be a better proposition than Dawson/King with Parker in front of them.

Sandro is going to become a world class player - I'm absolutely convinced of it. Vertonghen is no slouch either.

Vertonghen is also suited to AVB's tactics of playing higher up the pitch. That's partly why he failed at Chelsea - they didn't have the right type of players to do that. With the best will in the world, Terry doesn't have the legs for it.

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#332 Posted : 20 June 2012 08:11:38(UTC)
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Personally, out of the potential major candidates, I have no preference. AVB, Capello, Benitez and Blanc are all better than 'Arry.

I tend to try and forget about Martinez and Moyes.

Really..? IMO thats pish. You really have a hatred for Harry Redknapp and seem to forget that he dragged the club up from the relegation zone to champs league football and prem contendors. Apart from Benitez the others dont have any real prem league experience (AVB didnt get time at Chelsea). Benitez may fit Spurs quite well and of your list imo the best candidate, however why you would want to forget Moyes is unbelievable !!!! Moyes is rated very very highly.....do you know nothing about football ?

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Is today the 3rd day of talks between Spurs and AVB?

If AVB is going there for a long term project with Levy, Will Levy sack him if they fail to get Top 4 next season?

I think AVB will have learnt his lesson at Chelsea and don't go into the Spurs job ( if it happens) all guns blazing, He tactically got it wrong at Chelsea, He tried to play a High Line and Offside that doesn't suit us, He left out the old guard even when the players he replaced them with were poor. It seemed he never had a plan B, He upset youngsters, the of Lukaku etc.

Basically nobody knew what the hell he was rambling on about, he alledgedly refused to listen to Di Matteo in training and in the dugout during games.

 

 

 

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#334 Posted : 20 June 2012 11:11:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Is today the 3rd day of talks between Spurs and AVB?

If AVB is going there for a long term project with Levy, Will Levy sack him if they fail to get Top 4 next season?

I think AVB will have learnt his lesson at Chelsea and don't go into the Spurs job ( if it happens) all guns blazing, He tactically got it wrong at Chelsea, He tried to play a High Line and Offside that doesn't suit us, He left out the old guard even when the players he replaced them with were poor. It seemed he never had a plan B, He upset youngsters, the of Lukaku etc.

Basically nobody knew what the hell he was rambling on about, he alledgedly refused to listen to Di Matteo in training and in the dugout during games.

 

 

 

Exactly. I reckon his tactics are far more suited to Spurs because they'll have a far more mobile defence next season and have the sort of pace Chelsea don't have in so much abundance.

The survival of Tim Sherwood is also instructive as that shows Levy is going back to youth development and getting the overall age of the squad down. I can certainly run with that.

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#335 Posted : 20 June 2012 21:42:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Jonesy Go to Quoted Post

Is today the 3rd day of talks between Spurs and AVB?

If AVB is going there for a long term project with Levy, Will Levy sack him if they fail to get Top 4 next season?

I think AVB will have learnt his lesson at Chelsea and don't go into the Spurs job ( if it happens) all guns blazing, He tactically got it wrong at Chelsea, He tried to play a High Line and Offside that doesn't suit us, He left out the old guard even when the players he replaced them with were poor. It seemed he never had a plan B, He upset youngsters, the of Lukaku etc.

Basically nobody knew what the hell he was rambling on about, he alledgedly refused to listen to Di Matteo in training and in the dugout during games.

 

 

 

Exactly. I reckon his tactics are far more suited to Spurs because they'll have a far more mobile defence next season and have the sort of pace Chelsea don't have in so much abundance.

The survival of Tim Sherwood is also instructive as that shows Levy is going back to youth development and getting the overall age of the squad down. I can certainly run with that.

How long will Levy and Spurs fan run with it though? If he doesn't get off to a good start will the alarm bells start ringing Will Spurs be patient with him?

In an ideal worl you would like to see it they whoever gets a Managers job gets 2 seasons no matter what, but as a Chelsea Fan I was pleased to see him go because apart from the defence he got wrong he got everything else wrong also. Wring Club wrong time maybe but basics were wrong throughout.

 

Wonder how Sherwood feels, let's not forget he best mates with Jamie Redknapp I believe, Jamie is cousin of Lampard be interesting what's said LOL

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#336 Posted : 20 June 2012 22:05:03(UTC)
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Can't say I am enamoured with the thought of AVB, his pedigree isn't great.

Can he better 4th spot next year, that for me is the marker.

Can't see it

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#337 Posted : 21 June 2012 18:07:26(UTC)
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avb has told the media that he is fed up with spurs messing him around . he clearly doesnt know how the recruiting process works in the uk and by moaning to the media about  daniel levy then he might as well keep on job hunting.

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Rumours again circulating that Joe Lewis is looking to offload his stake in Spurs.

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#339 Posted : 21 June 2012 20:03:01(UTC)
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what about Fabio Capello he might be older but he has a good track record in league football.

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what about Fabio Capello he might be older but he has a good track record in league football.

Thats perfect for TH esp as he FB knows the lingo for the bingo.

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