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#1781 Posted : 01 April 2012 11:11:15(UTC)
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Sir Alex has taken the team away for some golf this weekend to try and take some pressure off the younger players.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2122733/Manchester-United-stars-head-Scotland-golf-break.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Certainly comes across well with City dropping more points and players arguing amongst themselves on the pitch, while united are in Scotland for a spot of golf. 

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#1782 Posted : 01 April 2012 12:44:54(UTC)
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What a dive by the greasy haired pikey. It was so pi$$poor it should have been a straight red for mediocrity.

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#1783 Posted : 01 April 2012 12:54:08(UTC)
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Newcastle 1-0 up!

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#1784 Posted : 01 April 2012 13:10:28(UTC)
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Not a good outcome. Need the bindippers to win this one.

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#1785 Posted : 01 April 2012 14:17:31(UTC)
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Gotta love seeing Liverpool struggle 

King Kenny, not even worthy of a prince (on the basis of his 2nd managerial stint)

Carroll and Henderson for £55m don't really need to elaborate much more on that.

All these Liverpool fans living in the past to try and get success, they won't win any trophies anytime soon.

And no, I don't count the carling cup as a trophy

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#1786 Posted : 01 April 2012 14:28:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: yorkshirelad89 Go to Quoted Post

Gotta love seeing Liverpool struggle 

King Kenny, not even worthy of a prince (on the basis of his 2nd managerial stint)

Carroll and Henderson for £55m don't really need to elaborate much more on that.

All these Liverpool fans living in the past to try and get success, they won't win any trophies anytime soon.

And no, I don't count the carling cup as a trophy



Yep, another horrendous day for mid table Liverpool. Any chance of ever winning a league title looks as far away as ever. King Cunny to get the sack?
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#1787 Posted : 01 April 2012 14:34:06(UTC)
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Well what a shower of shite that was.

Liverpool were woeful - no pace on the counter attack.

As for Reina, if you're going to use your head to contact someone else's, make sure you nut him properly. Reina had to go, despite hardly touching Perch (rules of the game blah blah blah). As for Perch, he should have gone for blatant playacting. He went down like a sack of spuds.

To all Liverpool fans on here - the 'dynamic duo' of 'Queen' Kenny and Mr 666, are ruining your club. If you can't see that, then you need to go for a lie down.

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#1788 Posted : 01 April 2012 14:40:26(UTC)
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Absolutely abysmal performance from Liverpool!  2-0? It could have been much worse. Stupid of Reina to go in head-down following Perch’s foul, which inevitably resulted in a red,  but Perch should be disciplined too for the feigned injury – which SHOULD have brought a second yellow.  Perch rightly condemned for his conduct by the pundits, but then Reina shouldn’t have given him the opportunity. (But he must be confident of winning any appeal given the replay of the "head butt.")

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#1789 Posted : 01 April 2012 14:48:21(UTC)
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#1790 Posted : 01 April 2012 15:20:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post

Well what a shower of shite that was.

Liverpool were woeful - no pace on the counter attack.

As for Reina, if you're going to use your head to contact someone else's, make sure you nut him properly. Reina had to go, despite hardly touching Perch (rules of the game blah blah blah). As for Perch, he should have gone for blatant playacting. He went down like a sack of spuds.

To all Liverpool fans on here - the 'dynamic duo' of 'Queen' Kenny and Mr 666, are ruining your club. If you can't see that, then you need to go for a lie down.

I reckon that Liverpool's recent league form must be just about as bad as it was at any time in the first 4-5 months of last season under Roy Hodgson. I think that if it wasn't for the fact that King Kenny is a legend at Anfield from his playing days and his previous reign as manager, he'd be getting pilloried big time at the moment from fans and pundits alike.

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#1791 Posted : 01 April 2012 16:31:16(UTC)
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Spurs don't seem to be helping themselves either, the way things are going they could find themselves in 6th place if there not careful.

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#1792 Posted : 01 April 2012 16:47:20(UTC)
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Where is Swansea's superb defence I've heard about? They've been garbage at the back and have made Bale look like a world class player.
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#1793 Posted : 01 April 2012 17:19:11(UTC)
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Phew, I was beginning to wonder there, a draw would have done us no favours at all.

3-1 is a better result, keeps us there or thereabouts

Shame really though, about Adebayor, I wonder what his goal to shots ratio is.

Next season we have to find another good goal scorer or 2 to replace him.

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#1794 Posted : 01 April 2012 18:10:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

Absolutely abysmal performance from Liverpool!  2-0? It could have been much worse. Stupid of Reina to go in head-down following Perch’s foul, which inevitably resulted in a red,  but Perch should be disciplined too for the feigned injury – which SHOULD have brought a second yellow.  Perch rightly condemned for his conduct by the pundits, but then Reina shouldn’t have given him the opportunity. (But he must be confident of winning any appeal given the replay of the "head butt.")

I wouldn't be confident. There wasn't any contact but there was certainly intent and that is enough to draw the red card. And in any case you can't get it withdrawn unless it isn't even worth a yellow or it's a case of mistaken identity. It was certainly worth a yellow and because the red card has already been given it will stand.

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#1795 Posted : 01 April 2012 20:00:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gary L Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

Absolutely abysmal performance from Liverpool!  2-0? It could have been much worse. Stupid of Reina to go in head-down following Perch’s foul, which inevitably resulted in a red,  but Perch should be disciplined too for the feigned injury – which SHOULD have brought a second yellow.  Perch rightly condemned for his conduct by the pundits, but then Reina shouldn’t have given him the opportunity. (But he must be confident of winning any appeal given the replay of the "head butt.")

I wouldn't be confident. There wasn't any contact but there was certainly intent and that is enough to draw the red card. And in any case you can't get it withdrawn unless it isn't even worth a yellow or it's a case of mistaken identity. It was certainly worth a yellow and because the red card has already been given it will stand.



You're wrong: A red card should be given for violent conduct - but can NOT be given for intent alone. IF Martin Atkinson's view of "violent conduct" is with regard to the alleged headbutt then it can be rescinded if it can be proved (as it clearly can) that there was no contact...and that's according to ex-ref Graham Poll, as discussed in this evening's Talksport.

I can take the defeat, but Perch's conduct is nothing less than disgraceful. The FA should take action in these cases and purge the game of these cheats, particularly when such a nasty and needless foul is committed in such a manner as to provoke a reaction that results in a red.

 http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/press-pass/120401/poll-liverpool-could-succeed-if-they-appeal-reina-red-card-168533

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#1796 Posted : 01 April 2012 20:04:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gary L Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

Absolutely abysmal performance from Liverpool!  2-0? It could have been much worse. Stupid of Reina to go in head-down following Perch’s foul, which inevitably resulted in a red,  but Perch should be disciplined too for the feigned injury – which SHOULD have brought a second yellow.  Perch rightly condemned for his conduct by the pundits, but then Reina shouldn’t have given him the opportunity. (But he must be confident of winning any appeal given the replay of the "head butt.")

I wouldn't be confident. There wasn't any contact but there was certainly intent and that is enough to draw the red card. And in any case you can't get it withdrawn unless it isn't even worth a yellow or it's a case of mistaken identity. It was certainly worth a yellow and because the red card has already been given it will stand.




I can take the defeat, but Perch's conduct is nothing less than disgraceful. The FA should take action in these cases and purge the game of these cheats, particularly when such a nasty and needless foul is committed in such a manner as to provoke a reaction that results in a red.

 http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/press-pass/120401/poll-liverpool-could-succeed-if-they-appeal-reina-red-card-168533

So that should carry over to Andy Carroll's pathetic dive then, too? (actually as dives go it wasn't half bad! )



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#1797 Posted : 01 April 2012 20:43:27(UTC)
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Ever since I bit (again) at BritBobs post a month or so ago, everything has gone tits up. At least back then when we lost to Arsenal, we had played extremely well. Now the confidence is gone, the desire is gone. Awful, insepid performance against Wigan followed by a positive start today drained immediately as soon as the barcodes scored.

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#1798 Posted : 01 April 2012 21:09:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

The FA should take action in these cases and purge the game of these cheats, particularly when such a nasty and needless foul is committed in such a manner as to provoke a reaction that results in a red.

 http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/press-pass/120401/poll-liverpool-could-succeed-if-they-appeal-reina-red-card-168533

I agree. It really is time that the footballing authorities, not just here in the UK but right around the world, really started coming down hard on playacting and cheating during games. IMO the decline really began one Sunday evening in Rome in July 1990 with the antics of a certain German player in the World Cup Final and it's now reached a point where the game is full of it. Well IMO it's gone on long enough- it's time to show those who feign injury and cheat the red card. Drogba's antics in Chelsea's Champions League 2nd leg match against Napoli the other week were an out-and-out disgrace, and if I had my way he'd get at least a year's ban from the game for that.

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#1799 Posted : 01 April 2012 21:24:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve Go to Quoted Post

I can take the defeat, but Perch's conduct is nothing less than disgraceful. The FA should take action in these cases and purge the game of these cheats, particularly when such a nasty and needless foul is committed in such a manner as to provoke a reaction that results in a red.

 http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/press-pass/120401/poll-liverpool-could-succeed-if-they-appeal-reina-red-card-168533

So that should carry over to Andy Carroll's pathetic dive then, too? (actually as dives go it wasn't half bad! )

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YES! Of course. Andy Carroll is just one of a long list headed by Nani, Drogba, Bale, Suarez et al. If they are shown to be cheats - punish them.  particularly when such a nasty and needless foul is committed in such a manner as to provoke a reaction that results in a red. No exceptions!

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#1800 Posted : 02 April 2012 08:19:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve Go to Quoted Post

I can take the defeat, but Perch's conduct is nothing less than disgraceful. The FA should take action in these cases and purge the game of these cheats, particularly when such a nasty and needless foul is committed in such a manner as to provoke a reaction that results in a red.

 http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/press-pass/120401/poll-liverpool-could-succeed-if-they-appeal-reina-red-card-168533

So that should carry over to Andy Carroll's pathetic dive then, too? (actually as dives go it wasn't half bad! )



YES! Of course. Andy Carroll is just one of a long list headed by Nani, Drogba, Bale, Suarez et al. If they are shown to be cheats - punish them.  particularly when such a nasty and needless foul is committed in such a manner as to provoke a reaction that results in a red. No exceptions!

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I agree completely that the game needs to clean itself up and get rid of these cheats Bill. But you are wrong about the head butt, Liverpool won't appeal and nor should they, the aggressive intent was there and so it doesn't matter if he connects or not.

 

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